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phantom_opera
01-12-11, 13:19
Starting another new thread as preview is tomorrow.

Archipelago @ Bedok Reservoir, a 577-unit development featuring a combination of condo units and strata houses, is set to preview tomorrow.

To be launched in phases, the first phase will comprise between 180 and 200 units and will fetch an average price of between S$1,000 psf and S$1,100 psf.

According to The Business Times, tomorrow’s preview is for invited guests, as well as those who have registered interest with CBRE, DTZ, Knight Frank and Savills, the project’s marketing agents.

Condo units at the 99-year leasehold development, which is located on a 491,080 sq ft site, comprise one- to five-bedroom units and penthouses, with the average price starting from S$600,000. There are 15 five-bedroom units and 51 penthouse units, including 15 penthouse lofts. The penthouses, which range between 1,432 sq ft and 3,434 sq ft, include four-, five- and five-bedroom-with-study units.

Meanwhile, the five-bedroom strata houses measure 4,400 sq ft each and have an average selling price of more than S$3 million.

Separately, more than 80 percent of units at Bedok Residences have been sold at an average price of S$1,350 psf.

phantom_opera
01-12-11, 13:26
Despite the suicide stories, this project is about the closest you can get to the nature yet living near MRT and amenities ... will probably grep one for own stay ..

http://www.uolbedokreservoir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Bedok_Reservoir_Location_Map.jpg

SpinCity
01-12-11, 13:33
Despite the suicide stories, this project is about the closest you can get to the nature yet living near MRT and amenities ... will probably grep one for own stay ..

http://www.uolbedokreservoir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Bedok_Reservoir_Location_Map.jpg

Bro, is this your first post for a new launch?

amk
01-12-11, 13:39
... will probably grep one for own stay ..


so u will go tomorrow 1 to 2pm ? might bump into you ;)

devilplate
01-12-11, 13:43
U guys not scare of the seasonal green bug?

gadiny
01-12-11, 15:38
Have received pricing information from agent for certain units. Understand from agent that the prices below are nett. For your reading pleasure:

1) Blk 501 and 503
a) 1 room 527sqf = $594K to $609K depending on floor
b) 2 room 840sqf =$881K to $904K dito
c) 3 room 1184sqf = $1,149K to $1,269K dito

2) Blk 517
a) 1 room 527sqf = $594K to $609K depending on floor
b) 2 room 840sqf =$889K to $923K dito
c) 3 room 1184sqf = $1,312K to $1,333K dito

3) Blk 527
a) No 1 room 527sqf
b) 2 room 840sqf =$901K to $998K depending on floor and stake
c) 3 room 1184sqf = $1,262K to $1,359K depending on floor and stake


4) Blk 529
a) No 1 room 527sqf
b) 2 room 840sqf =$972K to $1,044K depending on floor and stake
c) 3 room 1184sqf = $1,324K to $1,396K depending on floor and stake

buttercarp
01-12-11, 18:58
I pass by the place frequently on my way home.
It is indeed a convenient spot.
Unfortunately, only the top floor may have the reservoir view.
No, I won't buy it at 1000psf.........

I am going to wait and observe 1st.
But I may go down when the place is launched to have "a feel".

So far, when it comes to property, I have been the scavenger........ buying the last unit at a discounted price.

Pro888
01-12-11, 19:58
I pass by the place frequently on my way home.
It is indeed a convenient spot.
Unfortunately, only the top floor may have the reservoir view.
No, I won't buy it at 1000psf.........

I am going to wait and observe 1st.
But I may go down when the place is launched to have "a feel".

So far, when it comes to property, I have been the scavenger........ buying the last unit at a discounted price.

Leftover ??? Low flr , unit #04-44 etc. Surely got discount.

Btw, any Q ?

GSLJ
01-12-11, 20:00
This project looks good.

Only 577 units on a big plot of land with affordable starting quantum of 600k for one bedder.

Should sell out really fast.

azeoprop
01-12-11, 21:19
Glad I bought waterfront isle :D

phantom_opera
02-12-11, 08:35
Rainy today but yesterday's stellar stock market performance is a "God send" for UOL/agents :D

Any bet on the sales figures for today?

1. 100
2. 200
3. 300
4. 400

:cheers6:

Huge plot of land, ATT buyers should come and take a look:

http://www.archipelago-condo.net/uploads/7/1/8/9/7189841/8455672.jpg?873

latour
02-12-11, 08:42
212 units...

devilplate
02-12-11, 08:49
i tot this one so far lukewarm nia

i guess 150 bah....

sotidy
02-12-11, 08:52
i bet 180 :D

phantom_opera
02-12-11, 08:53
Developer video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZd0Kfzr7h0&feature=related

devilplate
02-12-11, 08:53
whos the banker? LOL

devilplate
02-12-11, 08:54
too close to trees rite? mozzies/green bug problem?

kane
02-12-11, 10:07
too close to trees rite? mozzies/green bug problem?

They'll sell you greenery view, close to nature. Aircon in showroom. Most forget mozzie problem.

p3nboy
02-12-11, 10:22
too close to trees rite? mozzies/green bug problem?

is this worse than Miltonia?

august
02-12-11, 10:31
Developer video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZd0Kfzr7h0&feature=related

must stare long and hard at the water surface... :scared-5:
just kidding hehe.

2824
02-12-11, 11:17
They'll sell you greenery view, close to nature. Aircon in showroom. Most forget mozzie problem.

thought the mozzie is another once in fifty years occurrence :p :D :D

phantom_opera
02-12-11, 11:29
The fresh air and bird chirping in the morning is enough health benefit to some very stressed up person by the name of Basic ... you can always install removable magnetic mozzi net ... it is quite effective

devilplate
02-12-11, 11:30
The fresh air and bird chirping in the morning is enough health benefit to some very stressed up person by the name of Basic ... you can always install removable magnetic mozzi net ... it is quite effective
today showflat open to public without submitting chq?

scsc
02-12-11, 11:59
quoted from the developer sales website

Update: 29 Nov 2011 (Latest)

VVIP Preview has been confirmed for Friday, 2 Dec 2011. The schedule for the day is as follows:

Time:
9am - 12noon - Sale of units to staff of developer and affiliated companies.
1pm - 5pm - Preferential selection by VVIP buyers who have already submitted cheques.

After VVIP preview, showroom will not be opened until further notice.




today showflat open to public without submitting chq?

phantom_opera
02-12-11, 12:08
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/The+Archipelago+comes+ashore+at+Bedok+Reservoir/

1br starting around 1140psf .... actually one can gauge the reservoir view by going up the low rise HDBs next to the showflat

surely not something like this:

bargain hunter
02-12-11, 12:14
deleted hahaha

devilplate
02-12-11, 12:17
quoted from the developer sales website

Update: 29 Nov 2011 (Latest)

VVIP Preview has been confirmed for Friday, 2 Dec 2011. The schedule for the day is as follows:

Time:
9am - 12noon - Sale of units to staff of developer and affiliated companies.
1pm - 5pm - Preferential selection by VVIP buyers who have already submitted cheques.

After VVIP preview, showroom will not be opened until further notice.
sibei tao leh......LOL

phantom_opera
02-12-11, 12:18
sibei tao leh......LOL

won't be surprised Wee family will chop the semi-Ds ... last time Waterbank@Dakota Wee family also bought right?

bargain hunter
02-12-11, 12:18
yah but tomorrow and sun still VVIP Preview. after that it will really be closed for a few days i guess.


sibei tao leh......LOL

p3nboy
02-12-11, 12:30
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/The+Archipelago+comes+ashore+at+Bedok+Reservoir/

1br starting around 1140psf .... actually one can gauge the reservoir view by going up the low rise HDBs next to the showflat

surely not something like this:

Heng ah, nothing floating there....

p3nboy
02-12-11, 12:32
After VVIP preview, showroom will not be opened until further notice.

wah! so atas one.

scsc
02-12-11, 13:50
No la... let mozzies feed fat fat on VVIP first, then u can stroll in to catch the durians! :D


sibei tao leh......LOL

devilplate
02-12-11, 16:29
Bo Sales update? Lol

hk2313
02-12-11, 16:59
anybody got the layout plan of the townhouses ? Supposed to be 3.55 mio each

Laguna
02-12-11, 17:32
just came back from site, a few points to share
1. facilities are under sized
2. colour scheme not so pleasant, brown roof,
3. balcony - triangle shape, not practical
4. for those reservior facing units, I doubt units can clear the treelines
5. finishings : average

price around $1,100, did not check further
not so big the crowd...many many agents
sales seem slow to me, perhaps just launched..

azeoprop
02-12-11, 18:01
The shadow of the bedok reservoir curse is still around. :rolleyes:

august
02-12-11, 18:08
who are the marketing agent(s)?

newbie11
02-12-11, 23:44
4 mkt agents. Many to choose from

hyenergix
03-12-11, 05:45
The shadow of the bedok reservoir curse is still around. :rolleyes:

Its e Suicide Reservoir...not safe to hang out at night. Might hear marble knocking sound at home :scared-4:

Komo
03-12-11, 07:27
Its e Suicide Reservoir...not safe to hang out at night. Might hear marble knocking sound at home :scared-4:
and water dripping sound:(

hyenergix
03-12-11, 07:31
and water dripping sound:(

When tap is turned on got blood come out one... :eek: That is if someone didn't lock the water tank properly.

devilplate
03-12-11, 08:41
so starbuy soon? 700psf .....i dun mind having blood coming out from the tap....LOL

PN
03-12-11, 09:00
When tap is turned on got blood come out one... :eek: That is if someone didn't lock the water tank properly.

Tha Movie "Dark Water"

DaytonaSS
03-12-11, 09:01
just came back from site, a few points to share
1. facilities are under sized
2. colour scheme not so pleasant, brown roof,
3. balcony - triangle shape, not practical
4. for those reservior facing units, I doubt units can clear the treelines
5. finishings : average

price around $1,100, did not check further
not so big the crowd...many many agents
sales seem slow to me, perhaps just launched..

if finishing average then sure lose to FEO marble finishing in the area liao. I though FEO finishing is quiet good.

flagship74
03-12-11, 10:20
hearsay 60% SOLD!!:eek:

buttercarp
03-12-11, 11:41
hearsay 60% SOLD!!:eek:

Must see 60% of what.
Maybe the 60% of phase 1 of prelaunch units?
Must see actual no. of units sold.

buttercarp
03-12-11, 11:51
Tha Movie "Dark Water"

I remember that movie.
Got hair come out of tap.

Tomorrow I may go and see.

latour
03-12-11, 11:57
Must see 60% of what.
Maybe the 60% of phase 1 of prelaunch units?
Must see actual no. of units sold.

Jus Recv SMS, 50% of 200 units phase 1.

Eastboy
03-12-11, 12:08
Am overseas at the moment. Any price list to share? Thanks

DC33_2008
03-12-11, 12:36
Is it opened to walk in customer this weekend?
Jus Recv SMS, 50% of 200 units phase 1.

buttercarp
03-12-11, 12:36
Jus Recv SMS, 50% of 200 units phase 1.

That's more than 1/6 of the total number of units......
Impressive!
Looks like there is no place for a property scavenger like me.

buttercarp
03-12-11, 12:38
Is it opened to walk in customer this weekend?

No, I don't think so.
Must go by invitation.

azeoprop
03-12-11, 14:39
I think this will make the 1+study of waterfront gold a very very valuable item. The only small size unit in bedok reservoir having full reservoir view.

:beats-me-man:

phantom_opera
03-12-11, 14:54
Dun forget the sky garden, tenants won't pay premium

kane
03-12-11, 16:11
what's the highest floor of this development?

buttercarp
03-12-11, 16:15
what's the highest floor of this development?

5th floor.

kane
03-12-11, 16:19
5th floor.

at these prices, i think i'll go for meadows which is also their project but FH.

except the layout for meadows isn't ideal.

phantom_opera
03-12-11, 16:22
Meadows mo mrt

kane
03-12-11, 16:27
I guess so, but at those quantums, surely the target market doesn't need the MRT at its doorstep? I was told a 4 bedder is from $1.8m. Is that right?

By the way, how far is the upcoming MRT from Archipelago?

heroes
03-12-11, 16:38
I think this will make the 1+study of waterfront gold a very very valuable item. The only small size unit in bedok reservoir having full reservoir view.

:beats-me-man:

Yes, only 56 unit.. And only half (23 unit) hv a full reservoir view...7th floor up.... And iam one of 23 :D

mantrix
03-12-11, 16:48
Meadows mo mrt

Meadows in sunken land, archi is elevated (no flash floods)

buttercarp
03-12-11, 18:31
By the way, how far is the upcoming MRT from Archipelago?

I think it should be about 600- 700 m from the MRT.
Have to walk in the open, no shelter.

But along Bedok Reservoir Road, there are a couple of buses.

phantom_opera
03-12-11, 18:55
500m through hdbs entrance at park

phantom_opera
03-12-11, 20:06
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/images/Bedok-North-Station.jpg

Future DTL3 station near Archipelago

devilplate
03-12-11, 20:14
So how many units sold on 1st day? M i correct on 150?

propertychap
03-12-11, 21:22
Just back from the showroom. Most of the released units facing reservoir and swimming pools are sold. Those facing main road not so popular but all 1 bedrooms are facing road.
Minimum price for 2 bedrooms from 900k and 1 bedroom from 600k.

amk
03-12-11, 21:40
Dun think got 150 sold. At best 100 lah. Those good facing ones, Thu and Fri already sold. Mostly big units facing park and main pool. Those who wanted to buy already bought. Now going there ones look see look see only. One bd stuff along the main road, no view, UOL will have a hard time selling those.

Psf wise, 11xx, so is cheaper than the current waterfront ### projects. 4bd yes > 1.8m, 3bd about 1.3m. Cheapest 4bd PH 2.4m.

Btw who said no marble ? Got what. Only 1bd dun have. Most family size units have.

For own stay, park facing ones are good. Nearby got NTUC , hawker centers, park literally and really at doorstep, walkable to future MRT , fresh air, no west sun....although as of now looks like most park facing high floor ones already sold. Just left 2 blocks not released.

But the facilities are too small for 500 plus units. U buy this for the park.

Anyone can go in lah, no need appt. 4 agencies welcome u at the door.

Btw, so many cute bankers there ;)

devilplate
03-12-11, 21:48
Sian papermoney damn small....1.3mio for 3bdr....zzzz

Facing so close to the trees can be very eerie at nite.....

kane
03-12-11, 22:09
Sian papermoney damn small....1.3mio for 3bdr....zzzz

Facing so close to the trees can be very eerie at nite.....

long time ago, withdraw $50 from ATM can spend for a while, nowadays, even withdraw $100 also can be spent in a blink of an eye.

chiaberry
03-12-11, 22:54
I think quite a few people bought for own stay. Employees of UOB have a good deal on the financing (very attractive terms). It's not easy to find 4/5 bedders which have convenient location (walking distance to MRT, amenities, park at the back door, easily accessible to PIE and KPE). The bedroom sizes are not too bad for current times (if the showroom is not too misrepresenting). Although not having full reservoir view (because of building height restrictions in that location) but the view through the trees is quite pleasant - can see the water through the trees and the water sports (canoe/dragon boat etc).

kane
03-12-11, 22:57
I think quite a few people bought for own stay. Employees of UOB have a good deal on the financing. It's not easy to find 4/5 bedders which have convenient location (walking distance to MRT, amenities, park at the back door, easily accessible to PIE and KPE). The bedroom sizes are not too bad for current times (if the showroom is not too misrepresenting).

how much was the 5 bedder going for?

Laguna
03-12-11, 23:39
how much was the 5 bedder going for?
I was looking at the 5 bedroom but found it over priced at $1050 or around $2.2m.
Based on the size of the huge balcony and PES, fair price shd be $800.
But will hv problem to rent out or find buyer next time.

kane
03-12-11, 23:51
I was looking at the 5 bedroom but found it over priced at $1050 or around $2.2m.
Based on the size of the huge balcony and PES, fair price shd be $800.
But will hv problem to rent out or find buyer next time.

yeah, $2.2m does sound a little steep...

hyenergix
04-12-11, 06:32
Developers are in a world of their own. Let's see what will happen next year...

amk
04-12-11, 09:10
I was looking at the 5 bedroom but found it over priced at $1050 or around $2.2m.


I dun find it "over priced". Sengkang is selling 1100 psf, this one is at a better location, the price is " current priced". Especially the park facing ones, the balcony is pretty nice.

If buy for own stay, reasonable.

If u conclude it as " over priced", the entire price level now in SG for mass market is " over priced".

Laguna
04-12-11, 10:25
I dun find it "over priced". Sengkang is selling 1100 psf, this one is at a better location, the price is " current priced". Especially the park facing ones, the balcony is pretty nice.

If buy for own stay, reasonable.

If u conclude it as " over priced", the entire price level now in SG for mass market is " over priced".

alamah, why u did not read my posting carefully, I did not say the project is over-priced, but I said the 5 bedrooms are overpriced due to its huge balconies..super huge. (perhaps shall follow Mr B to hv huge font here as well)

There is a certain formula from the bank to assess the fair value of the properties of hugh balcony and PES.

If u see more projects, u check the price of ground floor with huge PES and compare to the second floor, u will understand...

Overall, this project is priced reasonably.

If the 5 bedders is at $1.8-$1.9m, I will pick up one, the consideration is how difficult to rent out and catch the next buyer. There are not many 5 bedders single floor now

devilplate
04-12-11, 10:39
worth it to pay 2mio for 5bdr condo ard 2mio?

can get cheaper 99LH terrace....

not apple to apple la...but worth discussing?
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/8273215/for-sale-the-springfield
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/8214414/for-sale-kew-residencia

Laguna
04-12-11, 11:03
in fact, this project is only good for own stay,
rental wise, will be difficult to take on to the waterfront collections, which offer better view to the reservior, nearer to MRT and better facilities.

In fact, if I buy the 5 bedders, is more for own stay, as I love it huge balcony, but I doubt I can stay there.

I dun like the landed nowadays, as cannot climb steps alr...and not my life style.

DC33_2008
04-12-11, 11:10
This place is becoming another condo belt. Very competitive for rental. Landed should not have more than 3 storeys and must have a reasonable size bedroom on ground floor for the elderly.
in fact, this project is only good for own stay,
rental wise, will be difficult to take on to the waterfront collections, which offer better view to the reservior, nearer to MRT and better facilities.

In fact, if I buy the 5 bedders, is more for own stay, as I love it huge balcony, but I doubt I can stay there.

I dun like the landed nowadays, as cannot climb steps alr...and not my life style.

amk
04-12-11, 11:13
The smallest one level 5bd is 2411 sqft, if it's 2.2m then it's only 900 plus psf , no ?

Just looking at the quantum, a 4bd > 1.8m, shouldn't a 5bd be 400k more ?

It's by no means cheap of course. I'm looking from a own stay perspective, and let say u like the park and market and MRT. Waterfront stuff a 4bd now is asking 2.xm from FEO. This will be a better buy.

Disclaimer: I didn't check out the price for th 5bd. Only the PH and 3 4bds. So I dun know the 2.2m is for the ground floor or the 5th floor. I only know all the 5bds are facing the park.

bluedurian
04-12-11, 11:58
The smallest one level 5bd is 2411 sqft, if it's 2.2m then it's only 900 plus psf , no ?

Just looking at the quantum, a 4bd > 1.8m, shouldn't a 5bd be 400k more ?

It's by no means cheap of course. I'm looking from a own stay perspective, and let say u like the park and market and MRT. Waterfront stuff a 4bd now is asking 2.xm from FEO. This will be a better buy.

Disclaimer: I didn't check out the price for th 5bd. Only the PH and 3 4bds. So I dun know the 2.2m is for the ground floor or the 5th floor. I only know all the 5bds are facing the park.

hm, according to the pricing list given to me by another agent, the 5 bedrooms start from 2.7m.

Laguna
04-12-11, 13:07
hm, according to the pricing list given to me by another agent, the 5 bedrooms start from 2.7m.
May be ur right as I was given so many prices that day and did not pay much of attention since it is not in my buy list

desquire
04-12-11, 17:19
True. The different layouts available is prolly the reason for the price range. Love the 5-bedder. Pricing rather stiff though. The 4-bedder penthouse cheaper. For own stay, the 5-bedder with the dual-key like is perfect and very limited in numbers, with a private lift. Made for own stay. Hehe. :p

bargain hunter
05-12-11, 09:02
the preview only 200 units? 60% after 3 days would be about 120 units sold?


So how many units sold on 1st day? M i correct on 150?

Montaigne
05-12-11, 10:21
Bad response..

devilplate
05-12-11, 11:36
So nxt yr starbuy at 700psf for those units facing main road? Hehehe

Montaigne
05-12-11, 13:07
So nxt yr starbuy at 700psf for those units facing main road? Hehehe

Can't wait :D:D:D

Tripp
05-12-11, 13:19
VVIP Launch Prices

1-Bedder from $594K (11XX psf)
2-Bedder from $889K (10XX psf)
3-Bedder from $1249K (10XX psf)
3-Bedder+Study from $1.6M (11XX psf)
4-Bedder from $1.87M (12XX psf)
5-Bedder from $2.7M (10XX psf)

Penthouse from 8XX psf

Semi-detached strata house from $3.41M

iwantgizmos
05-12-11, 13:36
VVIP Launch Prices

1-Bedder from $594K (11XX psf)
2-Bedder from $889K (10XX psf)
3-Bedder from $1249K (10XX psf)
3-Bedder+Study from $1.6M (11XX psf)
4-Bedder from $1.87M (12XX psf)
5-Bedder from $2.7M (10XX psf)

Penthouse from 8XX psf

Semi-detached strata house from $3.41M

one word.... wow...

buttercarp
05-12-11, 14:12
Semi-detached strata house from $3.41M

OMG :eek: !

Tripp
05-12-11, 14:26
Comparing with the FEO's EuHabitat, another similar low-rise GPR 1.4 development, the VVIP launch prices for EuHabitat are cheaper.

Anyway, how does The Archipelago furnishings and amenities compared to EuHabitat? Was overseas so didn't have a chance to drop by.

Laguna
05-12-11, 17:58
Comparing with the FEO's EuHabitat, another similar low-rise GPR 1.4 development, the VVIP launch prices for EuHabitat are cheaper.

Anyway, how does The Archipelago furnishings and amenities compared to EuHabitat? Was overseas so didn't have a chance to drop by.

EuHabitat is definitely better for simple reasons as follow
1. much better lanscape
2. much better facilities
3. about the same distance to MRT / future MRT
4. better funishing

But need to qualify, units at Euhabitat facing the main roads are no, no

azeoprop
05-12-11, 18:01
How about vs waterfront isle? :o

amk
05-12-11, 18:22
EuHabitat is definitely better for simple reasons as follow
1. much better lanscape
2. much better facilities
3. about the same distance to MRT / future MRT
4. better funishing

But need to qualify, units at Euhabitat facing the main roads are no, no

Disagree with 4. I would say furnishing same. All with European sanitary fittings, marble floors, bedroom timber floors, etc.

And 3), think this one is slightly nearer to MRT. And this one has supermarket and hawker center near by, the other one none. And most importantly, park at door step. So for own stay, this one location ( especially the park facing ones) is much better.

phantom_opera
05-12-11, 19:43
Archipelago definitely closer to future DTL3 station, note the entrance at the park

http://www.h88.com.sg/images/content/2011-12-01/archipelago_location.jpg

Laguna
05-12-11, 21:57
Disagree with 4. I would say furnishing same. All with European sanitary fittings, marble floors, bedroom timber floors, etc.

And 3), think this one is slightly nearer to MRT. And this one has supermarket and hawker center near by, the other one none. And most importantly, park at door step. So for own stay, this one location ( especially the park facing ones) is much better.

for funishing, has anyone compare the finished product of FEO and UOL?
comparing the showflats is not the full pictures, it is the final product delivered.
Euhabitat definitely has a better kitchen finishing.
As for the park, I hv no dispute....overlooked this point...but I doubt the project can clear the treelines

Tripp
05-12-11, 22:03
Okay, googled and found the official brochure for The Archipelago complete with floor plans and furnishing specifications.

http://www.archipelagocondo.info/pdf/floorplan.pdf

Can anyone confirm if the rubbish chute is at the common area (if yes, where)?

Also, how many lifts for each tower? How about car parks lots?

hyenergix
05-12-11, 22:08
EuHabitat is definitely better for simple reasons as follow
1. much better lanscape
2. much better facilities
3. about the same distance to MRT / future MRT
4. better funishing

But need to qualify, units at Euhabitat facing the main roads are no, no

Wandering souls aside, I think this one is better, simply due to the convenience of MRT, shops and immediate access to the park.

Laguna
05-12-11, 22:30
Wandering souls aside, I think this one is better, simply due to the convenience of MRT, shops and immediate access to the park.

will u want to stay with them?

bluedurian
05-12-11, 22:51
Wandering souls aside, I think this one is better, simply due to the convenience of MRT, shops and immediate access to the park.

agreed -- but i know quite a few people who were waiting in anticipation for this project but ended up giving it a pass because of the wandering souls.

minority
05-12-11, 22:58
too ex for the location. 1222psf for reservoir facing. heard the older developer near by pushing remaining units willing to nego.

hyenergix
06-12-11, 06:35
too ex for the location. 1222psf for reservoir facing. heard the older developer near by pushing remaining units willing to nego.

Waterview? This location is the worst around the Bedok reservoir but it seems to be the most spacious at the center.

hyenergix
06-12-11, 06:40
will u want to stay with them?

No way, I don't wish to be reminded time and again that someone ended his/her life very nearby. There should be more sob stories because recession next year tend to make people more willing to gamble for the big break. But if you don't believe in such things and haven't done evil deeds, it is a better buy.

bargain hunter
06-12-11, 07:53
"A UOL Group and SingLand joint-venture started sales of its Archipelago project last Friday with average prices hovering just above $1,000 psf. About 200 homes were expected to be launched in the first phase of sales. The UOL Group declined to reveal sales figures, adding that more details would be released next week."


hahahahhahahaha

kane
06-12-11, 07:59
"A UOL Group and SingLand joint-venture started sales of its Archipelago project last Friday with average prices hovering just above $1,000 psf. About 200 homes were expected to be launched in the first phase of sales. The UOL Group declined to reveal sales figures, adding that more details would be released next week."


hahahahhahahaha

At those prices, how to fly off the shelves.

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 08:02
Same strategy as My Manhattan ... not priced to sell but priced to kill :beats-me-man: I would think 2br at 1000psf is more reasonable

UOL is helping FEO to clear the remaining units at Waterfront Isle (about 45 mainly poolview/reservoir facing units), some low floor compact 3br units with partial reservoir view (stack 17) only slightly above 1,000psf

And since WFW TOP, agents can bring potential buyers to market the reservoir view like this:

http://i2.propertyguru.com.sg/images/thumb/4/6/9/9/4699b215835382_1_V550.jpg

kane
06-12-11, 08:31
Pretty enchanting view from the bathtub. How's the road noise?

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 08:33
Pretty enchanting view from the bathtub. How's the road noise?

It could be pretty bad at morning/evening peak hours with all the SBS buses .. .hopefully when DTL3 is up, they will cut the buses

Well can't complain ... it is the same thing I observed in West Lake China ... worst still, the whole lake is full of local tourists ... during the Golden Week you can forget about visiting West Lake

azeoprop
06-12-11, 08:34
At night can be quite scary though...pitch black like a black hole....maybe can see some white figures floating around... :scared-4:

kane
06-12-11, 08:38
Duplicate post.

flagship74
06-12-11, 09:25
At night can be quite scary though...pitch black like a black hole....maybe can see some white figures floating around... :scared-4:

nice...hahaha:D

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 09:46
http://img.131.com/qnyhol/2009/04/01/2009040110582382d.jpg

Wild Falcon
06-12-11, 09:52
Errr. As long as you're not facing other buildings with artificial lighting, at night sure dark dark one mah....

Seems like a decent development to me. Surprised units are not moving fast. But I can sense the market is slowing down for both resale and new launch. Good lah. Hopefully got some "correction" to hoot some units....


At night can be quite scary though...pitch black like a black hole....maybe can see some white figures floating around... :scared-4:

Tripp
06-12-11, 09:58
I remember there are midges infestation problems in Bedok Reservoir recently. Has it been resolved?

http://wildsingaporenews.blogspot.com/2011/01/midges-bug-bedok-folk.html
http://wildsingaporenews.blogspot.com/2011/01/midges-continue-to-bug-bedok-residents.html
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1105491/1/.html
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/what_bugs_me/536604/flies_invade_residents_in_bedok_reservoir.html
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/macros-close-ups/837400-midges-bedok-reservoir.html

The Archipelago is the nearest condo development to the Bedok Reservoir park.

buttercarp
06-12-11, 13:31
I remember there are midges infestation problems in Bedok Reservoir recently. Has it been resolved?

http://wildsingaporenews.blogspot.com/2011/01/midges-bug-bedok-folk.html
http://wildsingaporenews.blogspot.com/2011/01/midges-continue-to-bug-bedok-residents.html
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1105491/1/.html
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/what_bugs_me/536604/flies_invade_residents_in_bedok_reservoir.html
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/macros-close-ups/837400-midges-bedok-reservoir.html

The Archipelago is the nearest condo development to the Bedok Reservoir park.

Spotted some at my balcony few weeks ago after the rain, but small amount and they disappeared after a while. Not too bothersome.

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 14:05
Spotted some at my balcony few weeks ago after the rain, but small amount and they disappeared after a while. Not too bothersome.

Most likely due to many construction sites there - Waterview, WFK, WFG, WFI to name a few

azeoprop
06-12-11, 15:56
Went to have a look just now, only a few customers, the rest all agents.

Type A, B and C only have homogeneous tiles for living, dining and bath. :tsk-tsk:

Some blocks are higher up on the hilltop. Blk511 and 525 are at least 2 levels higher than other blocks.

Layout quite standard except for the angular balconies.

Some pricing:

1 bedroom 527sqft
#02-02 577k
#02-31 606k
#05-31 621k

2 bedroom road facing 840sqft
#02-29 845k
#02-32 845k

2 bedroom pool facing 829sqft
#02-87 901k

2 bedroom park facing 829sqft
#02-112 1016k


:scared-1: :scared-4:

Tripp
06-12-11, 16:13
Can see that the trees are really high (when comparing against the low-rise HDB units in the pic)... Like what Laguna mentioned previously, some of the reservoir unit views may be blocked by the treelines.

forte
06-12-11, 16:40
Can see that the trees are really high (when comparing against the low-rise HDB units in the pic)... Like what Laguna mentioned previously, some of the reservoir unit views may be blocked by the treelines.

Definitely if one is looking for nice reservoir view this project will not be able to fight with the Waterfront series high floor units...

I guess its advantage is its nearer to amenities e.g NTUC, hawker centre compared to the waterfront series... also much quieter for those units facing the park...

bakasa2002
06-12-11, 16:48
I was considering on this proj as I prefer it was at the quieter side of the reservoir but at 1.3mil for a 3bdr, it's out of my reach. :)

I was there at launch on fri and have heard fr agent they drop price for the 1-2 bdr facing the road by 17-45k, that's really quite a lot. Those who bought on day 1 most likely will not get any rebate? Do u guys think response will be better when it is launch to the public?

chiaberry
06-12-11, 16:56
Definitely if one is looking for nice reservoir view this project will not be able to fight with the Waterfront series high floor units...

I guess its advantage is its nearer to amenities e.g NTUC, hawker centre compared to the waterfront series... also much quieter for those units facing the park...

I think the low response rate is because of the overall higher quantum of the units.

I know of 3 people who bought their units already, all are HDB upgraders buying for own stay. They bought a 3 bedder, a 5 bedder and the smallest 4 bedder PH (the one with the least PES). They have been living in that area and like that location/have been eyeing the site for some time.

Tripp
06-12-11, 16:56
I was considering on this proj as I prefer it was at the quieter side of the reservoir but at 1.3mil for a 3bdr, it's out of my reach. :)

I was there at launch on fri and have heard fr agent they drop price for the 1-2 bdr facing the road by 17-45k, that's really quite a lot. Those who bought on day 1 most likely will not get any rebate? Do u guys think response will be better when it is launch to the public?

If this is true, the early birdies that bought the road facing stacks really LPPL.

By the way, are the 2nd/3rd bedrooms decently big enough for a queen-sized bed?

chiaberry
06-12-11, 17:00
If this is true, the early birdies that bought the road facing stacks really LPPL.

By the way, are the 2nd/3rd bedrooms decently big enough for a queen-sized bed?

Yes you can go take a look at the showroom. There is one 3 bedder showflat there. And I noticed that they can take queen sized bed (with wardrobes built in).

Laguna
06-12-11, 17:05
I think the low response rate is because of the overall higher quantum of the units.

I know of 3 people who bought their units already, all are HDB upgraders buying for own stay. They bought a 3 bedder, a 5 bedder and the smallest 4 bedder PH (the one with the least PES). They have been living in that area and like that location/have been eyeing the site for some time.

this is the power of the HDB upgraders
5 bedder, more than $2.6m

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 17:06
this is the power of the HDB upgraders
5 bedder, more than $2.6m

Really powerful .... probably belongs to top 10% of income bracket (family)

Households in the highest decile – the 91st to 100th percentiles – earn an average of $23,684 per month. (2011)

chiaberry
06-12-11, 17:13
this is the power of the HDB upgraders
5 bedder, more than $2.6m

Yes I was also :eek:

For own stay it's down to individual preference. Not everybody is eyeing for high floor reservoir view. It seems there's quite a number of them on the market already. This development is on the same side of the road as the park and the park is literally at the back door. Not everybody is scared of ghosts. If not for the bodies, the price of this devt would be higher.

Tree view also quite pleasant and you can get little glimpses of the water through the trees. To those upgraders who are (ahem) more mature and practical, they really love the proximity to the supermarkets and food court. The easy access to both KPE and PIE is also a bonus (all the other condos' cars will be fighting to access from the other side via Bedor Reservoir Road).

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 17:20
The foodcourt and shops there cmi for now ... NTUC/Sheng Shiong also very small

Tripp
06-12-11, 17:25
By the way, will there be a T-junction (complete with traffic lights) right outside the condo entrance (ingress/egress)?

I don't think there is enough room to create a slip lane (for U-turn OR turning in/out of condo) at the main road.

phantom_opera
06-12-11, 17:34
2br for 840k with efficient layout (no bay window, no HS, small balcony) is not too demanding, probably can nego a bit to cut 10k or get stamp duty rebate ...

Cheapest WFW PIE facing 980sqft asking for 980k already ... road noise cannot be worse than PIE noise right?

There is going to be 2br resale indigestion @ Bedok Reservoir

kane
06-12-11, 17:59
1 5-bedder can buy 3 2-bedders. Or 2 3-bedders.

mantrix
06-12-11, 18:21
Bedok reservoir will be a very crowded place for sure in future...the poor foodcourt will be swamped with too much business :D

DaytonaSS
06-12-11, 18:39
Yes I was also :eek:

Not everybody is scared of ghosts. If not for the bodies, the price of this devt would be higher.


Exorcist, those not born and those whom have joined the rank shld be not afraid. For the rest, fear of unknown would be quiet real. Even got cable show of pple sharing their experience

Tripp
06-12-11, 23:14
H88.com.sg has a review of The Archipelago:
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Archipelago+at+Bedok+Reservoir+review/

gav108
06-12-11, 23:36
H88.com.sg has a review of The Archipelago:
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/Archipelago+at+Bedok+Reservoir+review/

i lol'ed at the last part of the review -

"Still, we expect this condo to do well. Buyers see MRT and they go berserk."

i just don't see why pay so much for a condo, unless u r real rich n don't think about making money...

e.g. if i buy a 900k+ 2 bedder here, i could have bought a 700+ k 2 bedder further east. with the extra 200+ k that i saved, i could later plonk it as down payment for a one bedder and collect rent...

forte
07-12-11, 08:22
i lol'ed at the last part of the review -

"Still, we expect this condo to do well. Buyers see MRT and they go berserk."

i just don't see why pay so much for a condo, unless u r real rich n don't think about making money...

e.g. if i buy a 900k+ 2 bedder here, i could have bought a 700+ k 2 bedder further east. with the extra 200+ k that i saved, i could later plonk it as down payment for a one bedder and collect rent...

A similar comparison with Bedok Residences which is just 10mins drive away is selling at least 30% higher than this project...Still people are queuing up and snatching up the units....

So we can see near MRT & amenities definitely pushes up the value of a place even though distance wise its not tat far away......

flagship74
07-12-11, 08:24
A similar comparison with Bedok Residences which is just 10mins drive away is selling at least 30% higher than this project...Still people are queuing up and snatching up the units....

So we can see near MRT & amenities definitely pushes up the value of a place even though distance wise its not tat far away......

I concur with the recent taxi fare hike..:rolleyes:

maseratiq2
07-12-11, 08:57
I recently bought a place without MRT (okay MRT is not within walking distance).

I asked my kid if that's ok and I take the savings of more than 300k ( if I bought comparable projects near MRT ) and buy a small used car for going to the Uni instead.

The car is a depreciating asset but the emphatic reply was " No more squeezing in buses and MRT anymore!".

I think there is a trade off.

phantom_opera
07-12-11, 09:06
I recently bought a place without MRT (okay MRT is not within walking distance).

I asked my kid if that's ok and I take the savings of more than 300k ( if I bought comparable projects near MRT ) and buy a small used car for going to the Uni instead.

The car is a depreciating asset but the emphatic reply was " No more squeezing in buses and MRT anymore!".

I think there is a trade off.

MRT in Singapore squeezed? Visit Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo and Bombay please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgZK1r85Ln0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fRyqP0aHtQ&feature=related
In Mumbai:
1. Humans are hanging out of train (no train door actually)
2. You must literally fight your life to squeeze out/in

phantom_opera
07-12-11, 09:10
Japan is better, civilized ... someone standing guard will push from outside:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ&feature=related

SMRT is too kind to you, yet I bought some shares as eventually it will be like Japan, taxi fare every year has to go up

gav108
07-12-11, 09:35
I recently bought a place without MRT (okay MRT is not within walking distance).

I asked my kid if that's ok and I take the savings of more than 300k ( if I bought comparable projects near MRT ) and buy a small used car for going to the Uni instead.

The car is a depreciating asset but the emphatic reply was " No more squeezing in buses and MRT anymore!".

I think there is a trade off.

i have the same thoughts. is the incredible premium u gotta pay for mrt etc. justifiable, when the difference is but a 5-10min drive? esp for own stay and with current SSD, imagine what u can do with this 250K for example:

- 2 brand new nice cars or 4 used ones at current coe prices
- 50 holiday trips at $5000 apiece (250k)
- downpayment for another condo in Singapore
- buy an overseas property

this incredible premium is contributed much by the mass-mindedness and uniform mentality that Singaporeans possess - 'other-people-have-i-also-must have', 'other-people-say-it's-good-therefore-it's-good' mentality. there are many options out there.

of course as investor i would be glad to take advantage of this mass-minded weakness n rip off potential buyers.

devilplate
07-12-11, 09:35
Japan is better, civilized ... someone standing guard will push from outside:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ&feature=related

SMRT is too kind to you, yet I bought some shares as eventually it will be like Japan, taxi fare every year has to go up
wow....good job rite? legal molestation? hehehe

devilplate
07-12-11, 09:37
i have the same thoughts. is the incredible premium u gotta pay for mrt etc. justifiable, when the difference is but a 5-10min drive? esp for own stay and with current SSD, imagine what u can do with this 250K for example:

- 2 brand new nice cars or 4 used ones at current coe prices
- 50 holiday trips at $5000 apiece (250k)
- downpayment for another condo in Singapore
- buy an overseas property

this incredible premium is contributed much by the mass-mindedness and uniform mentality that Singaporeans possess - 'other-people-have-i-also-must have', 'other-people-say-it's-good-therefore-it's-good' mentality. there are many options out there.

of course as investor i would be glad to take advantage of this mass-minded weakness n rip off potential buyers.
however at the end of 10yr when ur COE expire, the 250k is gone while condo px stays or goes up higher? unless u predict the price gap difference between the 2 condos going to narrow?

gav108
07-12-11, 09:42
however at the end of 10yr when ur COE expire, the 250k is gone while condo px stays or goes up higher? unless u predict the price gap difference between the 2 condos going to narrow?

which is why i clarify esp if for own stay, and using the money for a car is but an option u can have. can always buy a cheap car if cost is an issue, with plenty of money left over from the 250K, wh. u can invest etc etc. point is that financially u become more flexible...

phantom_opera
07-12-11, 09:44
market is always right ... almost :D

gn108
07-12-11, 09:55
Depends on your 'Family Life Phase'
Your child is old enough to drive = so you can get them a car and they'll
be happier.

Phase1 : Just married/no kids. No issue, public transport will do.
Phase2 : Infant/Toddler stage. Car is needed.
Phase3 : Early school/Primary. School bus = some flexibility
Phase4 : Secondary/Poly/JC. Too old for school bus/too young to drive
Phase5 : Kids independent but don't earn their keep

MRT access helps esp in Phase 4 and 3 & 5.



I recently bought a place without MRT (okay MRT is not within walking distance).

I asked my kid if that's ok and I take the savings of more than 300k ( if I bought comparable projects near MRT ) and buy a small used car for going to the Uni instead.

The car is a depreciating asset but the emphatic reply was " No more squeezing in buses and MRT anymore!".

I think there is a trade off.

devilplate
07-12-11, 10:18
which is why i clarify esp if for own stay, and using the money for a car is but an option u can have. can always buy a cheap car if cost is an issue, with plenty of money left over from the 250K, wh. u can invest etc etc. point is that financially u become more flexible...
u r toking about paying ur hse in FULL???

if not u only save 40% of 300k or 20% of 300k?

and dun forget effective int rate for Cars about 1.88X2

oh ya ....how about running cost of maintaining a car??? insurance, parking fees, ERP, summons, petrol(100usd/barrel now), suay suay accident and repair cost if any?

gav108
07-12-11, 10:31
Depends on your 'Family Life Phase'
Your child is old enough to drive = so you can get them a car and they'll
be happier.

Phase1 : Just married/no kids. No issue, public transport will do.
Phase2 : Infant/Toddler stage. Car is needed.
Phase3 : Early school/Primary. School bus = some flexibility
Phase4 : Secondary/Poly/JC. Too old for school bus/too young to drive
Phase5 : Kids independent but don't earn their keep

MRT access helps esp in Phase 4 and 3 & 5.

mrt definitely helps. but the question is if the large premium is justifiable? usu pple will choose pri n sec schools that are quite near, regardless of mrt or not., unless e.g. u stay in tampines but insists on sending kids to RI (when there's actually dunman high, victoria sec etc. in the east). it wouldn't kill them to have to take bus, or bus + mrt. prob teach them resilience.

but if the buyer thinks it's justifiable, then of course so be it.

amk
07-12-11, 10:44
the marketing of this project is quite interesting.
main efforts are spent on the big units. looks like UOL thinks most buyers are buying for own stay families. Well maybe it makes sense.... Park, food center, etc. In preview I believe those who wanted to buy already bought, and mostly big units.
NO showflat for 1/2 bedroom. no interest marketing them. well most of these "investor friendly" small units are on the worse possible side , so probably can only market as px competitive.
So different from FEO. I personally find EuHabitat is at a worse location than this. However FEO's wonderful 1bd suit showflat manages to convince many investors to put down their bet. This one, I wonder if UOL will add a 2bd show flat later.

devilplate
07-12-11, 10:47
the marketing of this project is quite interesting.
main efforts are spent on the big units. looks like UOL thinks most buyers are buying for own stay families. Well maybe it makes sense.... Park, food center, etc. In preview I believe those who wanted to buy already bought, and mostly big units.
NO showflat for 1/2 bedroom. no interest marketing them. well most of these "investor friendly" small units are on the worse possible side , so probably can only market as px competitive.
So different from FEO. I personally find EuHabitat is at a worse location than this. However FEO's wonderful 1bd suit showflat manages to convince many investors to put down their bet. This one, I wonder if UOL will add a 2bd show flat later.
there r some gd 1bdr(full marbles) at euhabitat to choose from whereas this one all facing main road and somemore low rise.....very jialat

and den better facing 2bdrs priced at a premium.....

investor got many choices....dun buy this project can buy others....so many to choose from.....

devilplate
07-12-11, 10:48
this project is gone case one......i dun even bother to check out the e brochure and layouts......until now i haven visit the showflat

interest level almost zero for me.....whahahahhaha

gav108
07-12-11, 10:52
u r toking about paying ur hse in FULL???

if not u only save 40% of 300k or 20% of 300k?

and dun forget effective int rate for Cars about 1.88X2

oh ya ....how about running cost of maintaining a car??? insurance, parking fees, ERP, summons, petrol(100usd/barrel now), suay suay accident and repair cost if any?

these are diff perspectives. i can also add how about traffic jams on roads? on the other end drivers will also have things to say about mrt users, and then there's also the taxi users..

even 20% of 300k is 60K, a good sum to start saving towards downpayment of an MM, which you can then rent out? if i buy an expensive condo to stay in and as a result cannot afford to invest in a second property or do other investments, then i don't find it worthwhile. not to forget that even if u do not need to pay the 200-300k premium in full from the beginning, it is still bleeding from your bank account monthly.

if having a car is too torturous then get a condo with free shuttle to mrt lor. but my sense is that owning a family car is quite well worth the depreciation if there's a family.

in the end depends on earning power, investment strategies n priorities...

devilplate
07-12-11, 10:55
these are diff perspectives. i can also add how about traffic jams on roads? on the other end drivers will also have things to say about mrt users, and then there's also the taxi users..

even 20% of 300k is 60K, a good sum to start saving towards downpayment of an MM, which you can then rent out? if i buy an expensive condo to stay in and as a result cannot afford to invest in a second property or do other investments, then i don't find it worthwhile. not to forget that even if u do not need to pay the 200-300k premium in full from the beginning, it is still bleeding from your bank account monthly.

if having a car is too torturous then get a condo with free shuttle to mrt lor. but my sense is that owning a family car is quite well worth the depreciation if there's a family.

in the end depends on earning power, investment strategies n priorities...

my point is: doesnt make any sense to tink tat u save '300k' and use the money saved to buy car

if u refer back, i nvr disagree the other points

me for one will stay in cheaper hse and channel more $$ into investments

gav108
07-12-11, 11:04
my point is: doesnt make any sense to tink tat u save '300k' and use the money saved to buy car

if u refer back, i nvr disagree the other points

me for one will stay in cheaper hse and channel more $$ into investments

ok agreed. but use a bit of the 300k on a cheap car ok lar.
for me becoming a job requirement...buy ex or cheap ppty will still need a car...haiz...(self-reflection). so buy cheap lor. and since got car no need mrt liao..

devilplate
07-12-11, 11:15
ok agreed. but use a bit of the 300k on a cheap car ok lar.
for me becoming a job requirement...buy ex or cheap ppty will still need a car...haiz...(self-reflection). so buy cheap lor. and since got car no need mrt liao..

if u nid to save tat 300k den can afford to buy car.....errrr......

one car nia leh....ur family how?

best is to stay near MRT and also own a car la

gn108
07-12-11, 11:17
I'm all for teaching the little runts independence and resilience - esp if they are boys.

But a) time wasted/fatigue/safety and
b) the wife might have something to say.

My friend stays in far east (changi north) and sends child to Pri school in Katong. Next year to Sec school - transport on the way back will be an issue. He knows it.



mrt definitely helps. but the question is if the large premium is justifiable? usu pple will choose pri n sec schools that are quite near, regardless of mrt or not., unless e.g. u stay in tampines but insists on sending kids to RI (when there's actually dunman high, victoria sec etc. in the east). it wouldn't kill them to have to take bus, or bus + mrt. prob teach them resilience.

but if the buyer thinks it's justifiable, then of course so be it.

gav108
07-12-11, 11:21
if u nid to save tat 300k den can afford to buy car.....errrr......

one car nia leh....ur family how?

best is to stay near MRT and also own a car la


not need to save 300k to buy car lar. to invest. no family.

gav108
07-12-11, 11:32
I'm all for teaching the little runts independence and resilience - esp if they are boys.

But a) time wasted/fatigue/safety and
b) the wife might have something to say.

My friend stays in far east (changi north) and sends child to Pri school in Katong. Next year to Sec school - transport on the way back will be an issue. He knows it.

i can only say a parent's love is the best :)

i guess if the great premium for condos near mrt remains, then next time there's always an option to sell off at high premium prices too when it's no longer necessary for the kids, or when they move out..

Tripp
07-12-11, 11:33
Double post

Tripp
07-12-11, 11:41
Business Times, Wed 7 Dec 2011
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/mnt/html/btpre/registration/redirect.jsp?dlink=/sub/news/story/0,4574,468537,00.html

UOL, SingLand sell over 100 units at Archipelago condo preview


UOL Group and Singapore Land are said to have sold slightly over 100 units at their Archipelago condo as of 6 pm yesterday. This is out of the 190 units in the 577-unit development released at a preview that began last Friday.

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The average price for the five-storey, 99-year leasehold project which will face Bedok Reservoir Park is about $1,000 psf.

The development is within 500 metres from Bedok Town Park MRT Station, which is under construction.

Slightly over 20 per cent of Archipelago's buyers are foreigners (including permanent residents). Comprising a mix of nationalities - including mainland Chinese, Taiwanese, Indonesians, Malaysians and Australians - they steered towards the larger units, including the strata semi-detached houses.

Foreigners do not require permission from Land Dealings (Approval) Unit to buy strata landed homes that are within a development with condominium status, making them popular with foreigners.

BT understands that eight to 10 of Archipelago's 24 strata semi-D homes have been sold. These have a strata area of around 4,400 sq ft and are priced at $3.1 million-$3.5 million.

Market watchers noted that a relatively high proportion of Archipelago's 577 units are large - about a fifth have four or five bedrooms - which means their absolute lump-sum dollar prices are substantial. Prices of one-bedroom units start from $590,000 for a 527 sq ft unit. The cheapest three-bedder (1,184 sq ft) costs $1.18 million. Four-bedders are priced from $1.7 million (for a 1,650 sq ft apartment).

'So this is not entirely an upgraders' project', as one property consultant put it, and could account for the relatively slower response for Archipelago compared with Bedok Residences, which was previewed last month - besides the latter's superior location.

Bedok Residences will be connected to Bedok MRT Station and integrated with a bus interchange. It will also be part of a mixed development that will include a mall. On its first day of release, Nov 23, 350 of 450 units released were taken up. The 583-unit development is now more than 80 per cent sold. The 15-storey project is priced at $1,350 psf on average.

Tripp
07-12-11, 11:46
52.6% sales registered based on launched units, and overall 17.3% sales. Quite lacklustre sales.

Should have launched earlier before Bedok Residences.

hk2313
07-12-11, 12:11
does anybody have an opinion on the strata houses (except stating too expensive please), the layout actually looks quite good compared with others (TG, EU, )

fan
07-12-11, 12:18
does anybody have an opinion on the strata houses (except stating too expensive please), the layout actually looks quite good compared with others (TG, EU, )

A pity that strata houses are sandwiched in the middle, and not facing the park.

forte
07-12-11, 12:44
52.6% sales registered based on launched units, and overall 17.3% sales. Quite lacklustre sales.

Should have launched earlier before Bedok Residences.
Dont think will make any difference. Archipelago location is not as good compared to Bedok Residences where MRT already up and running and EW line is the most convenient for pple working in town (Raffles place, Orchard Road). There are already so many launches at the Bedok Reservoir area (Waterfront series, Waterview, DBSS) not to mention other exisiting condos...pple who wanted to stay in Bedok Reservoir area likely already bought a place earlier. Whereas Bedok Residences is the only condo in that vincinity right next to Bedok MRT definitely demand is much higher.........

amk
07-12-11, 13:03
52.6% sales registered based on launched units, and overall 17.3% sales. Quite lacklustre sales.


actually much better than I thought !

I notice many of the preview buyers are buying large units not small 1/2 bds. These are easily close to 2m items or more. Houses start at 3.xm. one of this sold is worth 3x 1bd. UOL is more keen to get these sold than the 1bds.

hk2313: the house itself is good. layout is better. but the facing of the houses are very poor. no privacy, too cramped etc. UOL needs to learn from FEO.

Lovelle
07-12-11, 13:06
same as the the terrene...cramped

phantom_opera
07-12-11, 13:08
Strange mentality, 100 units sold at preview considered ok right, considering most units quantum are so high ... I remembered UOL Double Bay Residences preview only sold 80 units back in 2009 with asking price 650psf ... Waterfront Isle preview also less than 100 units, asking for 920psf on average

august
07-12-11, 13:14
so the showroom is open or close?

chiaberry
07-12-11, 13:16
does anybody have an opinion on the strata houses (except stating too expensive please), the layout actually looks quite good compared with others (TG, EU, )

Apparently quite narrow/cramped. And the facing is not good (no park view and those on the right hand side of the map (east side) are next to the bins area of the HDB flats (the empty white space on the map). The 5 bedders facing the park would be a better buy. Sorry dude the new launches of strata houses do not seem to be too good. Perhaps you can persuade your wife if she might consider to get a 5-bed or penthouse unit instead. There isn't much advantage in getting a house - I don't think the "garden" will amount to much plus the hassle of having to climb up and down so many flights of stairs for strata houses, not to mention having to clean those stairs (although most of the forummers here would blithely delegate this to their long-suffering domestic help). If you have young kids or older folks in the home, multi-tier strata house isn't so kid or elder friendly.

chiaberry
07-12-11, 13:21
Strange mentality, 100 units sold at preview considered ok right, considering most units quantum are so high ... I remembered UOL Double Bay Residences preview only sold 80 units back in 2009 with asking price 650psf ... Waterfront Isle preview also less than 100 units, asking for 920psf on average

Most of those sold are big units so in terms of $$$ earned they are probably not doing as badly as it would seem. The currently discounted units are those with particularly poor facing. They have already withdrawn the better facing blocks from the sales list and will release them later at the main launch.

gav108
07-12-11, 13:21
Went to have a look just now, only a few customers, the rest all agents.

Type A, B and C only have homogeneous tiles for living, dining and bath. :tsk-tsk:

Some blocks are higher up on the hilltop. Blk511 and 525 are at least 2 levels higher than other blocks.

Layout quite standard except for the angular balconies.

Some pricing:

1 bedroom 527sqft
#02-02 577k
#02-31 606k
#05-31 621k

2 bedroom road facing 840sqft
#02-29 845k
#02-32 845k

2 bedroom pool facing 829sqft
#02-87 901k

2 bedroom park facing 829sqft
#02-112 1016k


:scared-1: :scared-4:

omg how do they justify a 100k diff betw the pool facing and park facing? at 2nd storey u really can't see anything. they r just trees. Trees!! :doh:

fan
07-12-11, 13:37
omg how do they justify a 100k diff betw the pool facing and park facing? at 2nd storey u really can't see anything. they r just trees. Trees!! :doh:

True. But no noise and air pollution so +100k.. :beats-me-man:

amk
07-12-11, 13:43
omg how do they justify a 100k diff betw the pool facing and park facing? at 2nd storey u really can't see anything. they r just trees. Trees!! :doh:

trust me the selling point is NOT the "water view". It's the serenity of the park with fresh air and 0 noise and very good privacy.

and yes I think 100 plus sold with many big units is a pretty good result.

p3nboy
07-12-11, 14:35
omg how do they justify a 100k diff betw the pool facing and park facing? at 2nd storey u really can't see anything. they r just trees. Trees!! :doh:

sometimes got Xtra things to see leh.....

Tripp
07-12-11, 14:54
Creepy crawlies... And tree-climbing voyeurs with binos... :D

Yep, this condo development is selling the park view.

chiaberry
07-12-11, 15:04
omg how do they justify a 100k diff betw the pool facing and park facing? at 2nd storey u really can't see anything. they r just trees. Trees!! :doh:

Did you go and see the showflats? On the upper level of the penthouse showflat the view is actually quite good. Although there are trees but you can also see the reservoir through the trees. I saw dragon boat on the water. If it's for own stay, the park facing might be worth paying for. If it's for rental....maybe not.

devilplate
07-12-11, 15:10
does anybody have an opinion on the strata houses (except stating too expensive please), the layout actually looks quite good compared with others (TG, EU, )
Wats the psf?

I am monitoring strata house at vision.....see any gancheong spider willing to let go at 600psf? Hehehe

devilplate
07-12-11, 15:25
trust me the selling point is NOT the "water view". It's the serenity of the park with fresh air and 0 noise and very good privacy.

and yes I think 100 plus sold with many big units is a pretty good result.
Its the very first time i hear something positive from u regarding ocr condo....hehehe

devilplate
07-12-11, 15:26
Did you go and see the showflats? On the upper level of the penthouse showflat the view is actually quite good. Although there are trees but you can also see the reservoir through the trees. I saw dragon boat on the water. If it's for own stay, the park facing might be worth paying for. If it's for rental....maybe not.
Wats the psf for penthse wif reservoir view?

hk2313
07-12-11, 15:33
@ Devilplate

cheapest Vision TH asking around 670 psf I think ...only one at that price, next one asking for 750 or so...monitoring as well......what makes you interested in that one if I may ask ?

phantom_opera
07-12-11, 15:35
Its the very first time i hear something positive from u regarding ocr condo....hehehe

"For own stay" he has qualified ... I can understand if you want capital appreciation then CCR is a better choice but with US/Europe in dire states, wonder how much growth CCR can have in next 5y

Antione
07-12-11, 15:36
I recently bought a place without MRT (okay MRT is not within walking distance).

I asked my kid if that's ok and I take the savings of more than 300k ( if I bought comparable projects near MRT ) and buy a small used car for going to the Uni instead.

The car is a depreciating asset but the emphatic reply was " No more squeezing in buses and MRT anymore!".

I think there is a trade off.

Did you promise to chauffeur them everywhere they go?

maseratiq2
07-12-11, 16:06
Did you promise to chauffeur them everywhere they go?

Haha...my dad chauffeured us everywhere we went so it's payback time I guess.

Given a choice, if I was offered a free car and told to forgo public transport I will take the former. However, I have an aunt who's a Green Activist and I'm sure she'll differ in her opinion...

forte
07-12-11, 16:29
Haha...my dad chauffeured us everywhere we went so it's payback time I guess.

Given a choice, if I was offered a free car and told to forgo public transport I will take the former. However, I have an aunt who's a Green Activist and I'm sure she'll differ in her opinion...

Driving may not be good option for everyone...Especially if u work in CBD area where parking is limited and expensive, MRT is a better option

devilplate
07-12-11, 17:00
@ Devilplate

cheapest Vision TH asking around 670 psf I think ...only one at that price, next one asking for 750 or so...monitoring as well......what makes you interested in that one if I may ask ?
Low psf, pte enclave and gd fittings n furnishing provided

chiaberry
07-12-11, 17:22
Wats the psf for penthse wif reservoir view?

You would have to ask the agent. Many choice units and facing are not officially released for sale. Need to ask on a case-by-case basis. The developer is hanging on to many of the best units. Perhaps for relaunching when it's nearer to TOP or the market picks up again. I presume UOL has strong holding power. Having sold quite a number of the houses, they have recouped some working capital already. They don't seem to be in a hurry to dispose of everything quickly. Haven't even advertised in the papers.

amk
07-12-11, 19:10
Devil a very gd park facing smaller 4bd PH is abount 2.4m. 2540 sqft. 5bd PH will reach close to 3m.

..and yes my positive impression for this project is mainly for own stay. Say if I have a budget for 2.4m, for a PH looking at the park, it's not bad. the layout is family friendly: it has both a utility room and a store room. And in PH configuration you have 2 big ensuites, and another 2 decen size rooms. 2.4m u can't really get anything decent sized in CCR, and for houses seriously even a decent terrace will cost more. In SG context very few projects have mature park at doorstep without any road. For similar ones I can think of houses around botanic garden. And here it has markets and MRT. The facilities ae severely limited. Ppl have to love fresh air to buy this. I like trees and fresh air, that's why my impression is very good.

For investment purpose will be tough. Tis kind of quantum not many buyers. If hold must hold more than 10yrs to have meaningful upside. Small units not only have poor facing, they also have to fight with so many new units coming up.

azeoprop
07-12-11, 19:38
New cooling measures effective 8th Dec! I think they need to reduce prices liaoz. Luckily bedok residences launch earlier.

devilplate
07-12-11, 19:53
New cooling measures effective 8th Dec! I think they need to reduce prices liaoz. Luckily bedok residences launch earlier.
Crazy measures! Foreigner pay buying stamp duty of 13%!!!!!!!

Mr b is right! Now i am vy sure ppty will crash by >50%!!!!!

5yrs later i gona vote for......

How come pte ppty machiam worse den hdb! Whahahahahahaha

GSLJ
07-12-11, 19:54
New cooling measures effective 8th Dec! I think they need to reduce prices liaoz. Luckily bedok residences launch earlier.One reason I chose not to get a unit at Bedok Reservoir.

Was looking at WFI but decided against it as already too many condos along this stretch, both existing and BUC.

When all these projects TOP, will really need to compete in pricing for both tenants or buyers.

But the reservoir view is definitely lovely and a big plus. Also, the upcoming MRT if you use public transport.

hyenergix
07-12-11, 19:59
Some tenants will not pay you rent but still stay in your house :scared-3:

gadiny
07-12-11, 20:05
My agent just called and told me the prime units facing the park are released due to the imposition of additional stamp duties effective tomorrow.

The 2 bedder at stack 118 level 2 which I am interested is at $1,026K at 826sqf. Should I get this or wait for the condo that will be build on the bedok south ave 3 land (near Tanah Merah) which will be released this month?

bargain hunter
07-12-11, 20:08
u say kelong, not kelong? pple gahmen linked ok. u think they had no wind no sound?


New cooling measures effective 8th Dec! I think they need to reduce prices liaoz. Luckily bedok residences launch earlier.

devilplate
07-12-11, 20:27
My agent just called and told me the prime units facing the park are released due to the imposition of additional stamp duties effective tomorrow.

The 2 bedder at stack 118 level 2 which I am interested is at $1,026K at 826sqf. Should I get this or wait for the condo that will be build on the bedok south ave 3 land (near Tanah Merah) which will be released this month?
Still wana buy? Wait for firesale! All tks to our finance minister! Hahaha

devilplate
07-12-11, 20:29
u say kelong, not kelong? pple gahmen linked ok. u think they had no wind no sound?
Rcr and ccr pte ppty greatest hit.....

Ocr condo lesser impact

Landed ppty least impact

gav108
07-12-11, 20:49
Did you go and see the showflats? On the upper level of the penthouse showflat the view is actually quite good. Although there are trees but you can also see the reservoir through the trees. I saw dragon boat on the water. If it's for own stay, the park facing might be worth paying for. If it's for rental....maybe not.


i actually recce'd the place, walking around carefully even before the showflat was up. i was talking about that park facing 2nd level one costing over 1 mil, not the upper level penthouse - definitely cannot see reservoir through trees. i walked between the boundary of the site and the trees to check.

and the trees are not the beautiful onsen ryokan types in japan (aka hot spring hotel facing trees in japan hour), but the unruly SAF field camp jungle type :scared-3:

my condo used to face all trees one side, and faces the pool on the other side. ok ok only lah. but 100k extra for trees over pool view? not for me :tongue3:

azeoprop
07-12-11, 20:55
My agent just called and told me the prime units facing the park are released due to the imposition of additional stamp duties effective tomorrow.

The 2 bedder at stack 118 level 2 which I am interested is at $1,026K at 826sqf. Should I get this or wait for the condo that will be build on the bedok south ave 3 land (near Tanah Merah) which will be released this month?

I rather have pool view then tree view. The trees there are big and messy jungle type. At night confirm feed mosquitos. Or on lights all the insects fly into your house. All these for 100k more? :tsk-tsk:

insigina
07-12-11, 21:01
I rather have pool view then tree view. The trees there are big and messy jungle type. At night confirm feed mosquitos. Or on lights all the insects fly into your house. All these for 100k more? :tsk-tsk:


Also need to pray hard birds do not start roosting among those trees...the noise can be deafening.

buttercarp
07-12-11, 22:58
Also need to pray hard birds do not start roosting among those trees...the noise can be deafening.

Agree....those mynahs.....very fierce birds.
Sometimes come into my kitchen.
And the pigeons build their nests at the air con ledge.

Laguna
08-12-11, 07:58
All the townhouses died.....
:doh:

azeoprop
08-12-11, 09:24
They might have to partition the townhouses into separate walk up studio units haa haa.... :rolleyes:

phantom_opera
08-12-11, 09:55
They might have to partition the townhouses into separate walk up studio units haa haa.... :rolleyes:

good idea azeo, MMs within strata house wa ha ha ha ha

buttercarp
08-12-11, 11:58
All the townhouses died.....
:doh:



They might have to partition the townhouses into separate walk up studio units haa haa.... :rolleyes:


Townhouses reborn as studio units?

bargain hunter
09-12-11, 11:26
ho ho ho, merry x'mas!

UOL Group is so keen to lock in sales in what could be a fast-softening market that it is offering agents big cash incentives to close deals at Archipelago in Bedok from now until Sunday, according to an internally circulated text message obtained by The Straits Times.
Agents will get $5,000 for sales of one- and two-bedders, $10,000 for each three- and four-bedroom unit sold and $15,000 for sales of four-bedroom and larger units. These are in addition to the usual commissions.

p3nboy
09-12-11, 12:05
:doh: whatever for? maybe agent should buy under their parents name?

devilplate
09-12-11, 12:10
how much UOL bot this land for? 4xxpsf?

phantom_opera
09-12-11, 12:29
Fear striking ... UOL share price who outperformed also drops like a stone

http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=U14.SI&t=5d&q=&l=&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-SG&region=SG

Tripp
09-12-11, 14:04
ho ho ho, merry x'mas!

UOL Group is so keen to lock in sales in what could be a fast-softening market that it is offering agents big cash incentives to close deals at Archipelago in Bedok from now until Sunday, according to an internally circulated text message obtained by The Straits Times.
Agents will get $5,000 for sales of one- and two-bedders, $10,000 for each three- and four-bedroom unit sold and $15,000 for sales of four-bedroom and larger units. These are in addition to the usual commissions.

Wow... maybe interested buyers can ask for at least half of the newly added cash incentives from agents, as a pre-requisite to book a unit in The Archipelago.

p3nboy
09-12-11, 14:27
Wow... maybe interested buyers can ask for at least half of the newly added cash incentives from agents, as a pre-requisite to book a unit in The Archipelago.

you r kidding right? the amount is 0.01%:doh:

Tripp
09-12-11, 15:05
I mean for interested buyers not affected by the ABSD, this may also mean an outright cash discount (from the agent - but must wait for UOL to disburse), although I agree this is not much.

Can use the "cash-back" to offset the option fee, or use it for X'mas or CNY shopping.

Of course, I think a lot of buyers will adopt a wait-and-see attitude in anticipation of larger price falls.

Pro888
09-12-11, 15:17
I mean for interested buyers not affected by the ABSD, this may also mean an outright cash discount (from the agent - but must wait for UOL to disburse), although I agree this is not much.

Can use the "cash-back" to offset the option fee, or use it for X'mas or CNY shopping.

Of course, I think a lot of buyers will adopt a wait-and-see attitude in anticipation of larger price falls.

Same like stock market, when price goes down, people will wait & wait for bottom fish. When price goes up, most people will not wait. Scare miss the boat. So these few weeks/ months, agents & developers can take a break. Dun wait $$ advertise. You give $15k discount, people will want $30K, you give $30K, they will want $50k. So dun waste time, go fly kite.:D :D :D

azeoprop
09-12-11, 17:55
Buy 1 get 1 free? Buy a road facing 2 bedder and get the adjoining 1 bedder free....haa haa. :p

bargain hunter
13-12-11, 08:29
The Straits Times understands that 11 more units have been sold at UOL Group's 577-unit Archipelago project in Bedok since the measures were introduced. About 200 people visited the show-flat over the weekend.
This brings the total sales at the five-storey, 99-year leasehold development to about 120 units since the project was previewed at the start of this month. Prices were not reduced but held at an average of about $1,000 per sq ft.
None of the buyers has decided against exercising options as yet.

phantom_opera
13-12-11, 08:36
when lift reaches the top floor, there are always people eager to squeeze in there ;)

buttercarp
18-12-11, 11:58
Just returned from the archipelago.
I am smitten by the project and the surroundings.
Perhaps becoz I like Bedok Reservoir and its greenery.

I did not buy lah..... cannot .....not now.
Just shopping around for next time.

Learnt from the agent that today is the last day of the preview and tha the official launch will be on 5 jan 2012.
Btw, the agent said the project is 700m from the future MRT station.

Also 10 of the strata semiDs have been sold and 8 of them bought by the same person- a foreigner :eek: !

kane
18-12-11, 16:52
Maybe the foreigner wanted convenience when he collected rental.just go door to door like collecting news paper money.

devilplate
18-12-11, 17:22
Maybe the foreigner wanted convenience when he collected rental.just go door to door like collecting news paper money.

buy cluster hse for yield ?

More like wana flip to fellow foreigners nxt time.....now kena cm5.....wakakaka

gav108
18-12-11, 17:44
Just returned from the archipelago.
I am smitten by the project and the surroundings.
Perhaps becoz I like Bedok Reservoir and its greenery.

I did not buy lah..... cannot .....not now.
Just shopping around for next time.

Learnt from the agent that today is the last day of the preview and tha the official launch will be on 5 jan 2012.
Btw, the agent said the project is 700m from the future MRT station.

Also 10 of the strata semiDs have been sold and 8 of them bought by the same person- a foreigner :eek: !


700m? i had thought it nearer. 700m is too far! i like the greenery and reservoir too. but at this price point...it just makes me regret not picking up the sail last time...haiz

kane
18-12-11, 17:49
buy cluster hse for yield ?

More like wana flip to fellow foreigners nxt time.....now kena cm5.....wakakaka
Flip $2+/3+m strata landed is really not a bright idea to begin with.

kane
18-12-11, 17:50
700m? i had thought it nearer. 700m is too far! i like the greenery and reservoir too. but at this price point...it just makes me regret not picking up the sail last time...haiz

Don't look back lah. Sail has long set sail into the horizon.

devilplate
18-12-11, 18:06
700m? i had thought it nearer. 700m is too far! i like the greenery and reservoir too. but at this price point...it just makes me regret not picking up the sail last time...haiz
Wah liu.....dun dwell on the past la....

Can nvr ever get sail at 1kpsf anymore.....unless ww3 ....lol

devilplate
18-12-11, 18:07
Flip $2+/3+m strata landed is really not a bright idea to begin with.
Buy into this cmi project oredi vy silly lor....wakaka

I wud rather pay 9xxpsf for wfw.....can move in liao

buttercarp
18-12-11, 18:52
700m? i had thought it nearer. 700m is too far! i like the greenery and reservoir too. but at this price point...it just makes me regret not picking up the sail last time...haiz

700m is kinda far.
The agent said that there will be a side gate at the west end of the project for accessibility to the MRT station which will be at the industrial park.


http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/images/Bedok-North-Station.jpg

See map from LTA:

EVO
24-12-11, 03:53
700m is kinda far.
The agent said that there will be a side gate at the west end of the project for accessibility to the MRT station which will be at the industrial park.


http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/images/Bedok-North-Station.jpg

See map from LTA:

Actually its not too bad. There should be shelter once u reach the HDB opposite the gate, all the way to the MRT. Did a actual walk to the likely MRT site thru the HDB, about 10mins walk.

Just have to shelter yourself from your unit to the gate and cross the road.

Was keen on this project but at this price 买不下。

hyenergix
24-12-11, 05:56
10 min is walkable but guaranteed to spoil make-up and make the dress stick to your back when you reach the MRT. I can't imagine when the hot period of May-July is here. Taking MRT is not a breeze these days.

solsys
24-12-11, 09:12
Regardless of the walking distance, any above 500m I will take a feeder bus. Do u realize it only costs me $0.03 for my feeder bus before I take my MRT because it's distance based fare now?

It now makes sense to live two to three busstops away from MRT station. Wait till bomb threat , train breakdown with crowded, roudy people around at your place.

Have been telling people the whole idea of having a PC right on top of MRT is overblown and overshot.

Eastboy
24-12-11, 20:17
10 min is walkable but guaranteed to spoil make-up and make the dress stick to your back when you reach the MRT. I can't imagine when the hot period of May-July is here. Taking MRT is not a breeze these days.

Lol! Very true! Somemore LV / Chanel/ birkins so heavy!!!

azeoprop
04-01-12, 09:03
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_751671.html

Midges are once again proving a nuisance at Bedok Reservoir - a year after they first 'bugged' residents there.
Since last week, residents and shopkeepers have once again had to swat away swarms of these tiny green and blue flies.
The insects, known scientifically as Chironomidae, do not bite or carry diseases but that is hardly a consolation for residents.
They told The Straits Times that the midges typically plague the vicinity in January and February, making daily activities inconvenient.

:tsk-tsk:

Jonathan0503
04-01-12, 10:07
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_751671.html

Midges are once again proving a nuisance at Bedok Reservoir - a year after they first 'bugged' residents there.
Since last week, residents and shopkeepers have once again had to swat away swarms of these tiny green and blue flies.
The insects, known scientifically as Chironomidae, do not bite or carry diseases but that is hardly a consolation for residents.
They told The Straits Times that the midges typically plague the vicinity in January and February, making daily activities inconvenient.

:tsk-tsk:

Yah, a lot of my friends/colleagues who stay near to the reservoir also complain that they are always pested by insects, esp during the evenings...

buttercarp
04-01-12, 12:21
So far the midges have not flown to my place yet:) .
Last night when I was at Bedok Reservoir Sheng Siong, no midges there.

Last year I remembered it was quite bad.
The midges followed me into my car after doing my grocery.

phantom_opera
04-01-12, 14:31
Can midges reach high floor e.g. 8th floor and above?

mygeemeel
04-01-12, 14:49
Can midges reach high floor e.g. 8th floor and above?

They can take lift.

buttercarp
04-01-12, 15:28
Can midges reach high floor e.g. 8th floor and above?
Yup, can fly even higher than that.

buttercarp
04-01-12, 15:30
They can take lift.
LOL.....Mabbe they follow me without my knowing.

mygeemeel
04-01-12, 16:19
LOL.....Mabbe they follow me without my knowing.

you smell good mah. :ashamed1:

azeoprop
04-01-12, 16:27
Imagine bitten by them then kena premature aging like that old SBC drama Mi Li Ye - Butterfly story.

:scared-2:

teddybear
04-01-12, 17:09
Probably need to be above 15 floor to be safe? :beats-me-man:


Can midges reach high floor e.g. 8th floor and above?

phantom_opera
04-01-12, 17:51
may be due to heavy construction around Bedok Reservoir - Waterview, MRT, WFK, WFG, WFI, DBSS, Archipelago lol

mcmlxxvi
04-01-12, 18:07
Imagine bitten by them then kena premature aging like that old SBC drama Mi Li Ye - Butterfly story.

:scared-2:

Omg! I miss 迷离夜! Where can i find videos of it....

mcmlxxvi
04-01-12, 18:13
Omg! I miss 迷离夜! Where can i find videos of it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAJtsPOw9xY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

azeoprop
04-01-12, 18:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAJtsPOw9xY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

haa haa...the guy accidentally hit the girl breast! :D

TCS should come out with the story of bedok reservoir... Due to the Sun's super solar flare in 2012, the radiation caused the midges to be mutated and they need to suck human blood to lay eggs. However the mutation would transfer to those who kena bitten. This mutation caused victims to drink human blood in order to survive, some victims could not bear to do it, so choose to end their lives in bedok reservoir. But they did not know that the larvae of the midges feed on the bodies to become super powerful and deadly....Now its up to our TCS heros to save Singapore from a disaster.

:D

mygeemeel
04-01-12, 19:41
haa haa...the guy accidentally hit the girl breast! :D
:D

Wah, lao tiko your eyes are sharp. :ashamed1:

Wild Falcon
05-01-12, 09:28
It's not the money. It's the time and effort wasted in waiting for the feeder bus and jostling with the crowd. Time = money. Honestly, if it's only 500m, I would rather walk, esp evening time. Take it as a form of daily exercise.


Regardless of the walking distance, any above 500m I will take a feeder bus. Do u realize it only costs me $0.03 for my feeder bus before I take my MRT because it's distance based fare now?

It now makes sense to live two to three busstops away from MRT station. Wait till bomb threat , train breakdown with crowded, roudy people around at your place.

Have been telling people the whole idea of having a PC right on top of MRT is overblown and overshot.

mcmlxxvi
05-01-12, 21:01
haa haa...the guy accidentally hit the girl breast! :D

TCS should come out with the story of bedok reservoir... Due to the Sun's super solar flare in 2012, the radiation caused the midges to be mutated and they need to suck human blood to lay eggs. However the mutation would transfer to those who kena bitten. This mutation caused victims to drink human blood in order to survive, some victims could not bear to do it, so choose to end their lives in bedok reservoir. But they did not know that the larvae of the midges feed on the bodies to become super powerful and deadly....Now its up to our TCS heros to save Singapore from a disaster.

:D

Wa lao u can replace Mr Parker Lim as script writer liao...

august
06-01-12, 08:59
from BT, 15 of the 130 options issued not exercised.

bargain hunter
06-01-12, 09:33
At the Archipelago condo facing Bedok Reservoir Park, about 12 per cent or 15 of the 130 units for which options were issued since the project was previewed on Dec 2 are being returned to developers UOL Group and Singapore Land.

The average price for the 577-unit five-storey, 99-year leasehold condo is about $1,000 psf. 'All 15 or so units returned are apartments; none of the strata semi-detached homes sold in the project have been returned,' said a spokesman for UOL.

On a more positive note, UOL's spokesman said: 'The fact that around 90 per cent of those who had been granted options at Archipelago have decided to go ahead with their purchase shows they are confident about the pricing of the development, notwithstanding the latest curbs. We will release the returned units to the pool available for sale.'

minority
28-01-12, 17:19
Need to give more discount.....

27 Jan 2012
By Siau Ming En
The police and the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) are searching for the body of a man in Bedok Reservoir.

SCDF received a call from a member of the public at 1pm on Saturday and arrived at the scene five minutes later.

Four divers from the SCDF are still conducting the search near an aerial obstacle course, Forest Adventures, at the reservoir.

Ms Joyce Poon, 34, was jogging in the reservoir when the police started to cordon off the place. 'I was asked to leave as police cars and ambulances surrounded the area,' said the corporate communications manager.

There have been six bodies that have been found in the reservoir in the past year.

oreo
08-02-12, 19:54
Went to see the showflat, and we really liked it. But price seems abit steep... Any opinions? We liked the proximity to the future MRT, and less dense part of Bedok, although the present sentiment of the area is not so good!

ppty
08-02-12, 20:13
yup - have seen the show flat n floor plans - find them to be very practical
n room sizes are good in comparison to some new launches ; no planters,
bay window and no huge balcony.

anyway TOP is 2015 and sentiments are ever changing - a place deemed as good can have problems later on and vice versa

price again is relative to what u r getting - i was told the 3 bed n above is all
marble and other quality finishes -



Went to see the showflat, and we really liked it. But price seems abit steep... Any opinions? We liked the proximity to the future MRT, and less dense part of Bedok, although the present sentiment of the area is not so good!

bakasa2002
09-02-12, 10:19
I was there for the preview, didn't like quality of the finish and find the price is steep but I do agree that the layout is practical and balcony size is appropriate for the size of the hse. :)

Tripp
09-02-12, 10:32
Is it the norm for new launches nowadays to have 2 balconies? One larger one at the living room and the other one in the MBR.

On another note, I don't know why UOL/Singland seems to be saving money on advertising since the units are not really moving... The perimeter wall adverts that they built are not lighted up at night, although the spotlights are already provisioned.

Should turn on the spotlights to attract potential buyers.