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I treat this as the commitment from the developer to install those materials as shown in BGA's website. So, the cost is already included in the unit price.
However, I hv the impression that those materials don't last..
Just wonder how they calculate the saving of electricity and water. If this refer to household unit saving, It should lower the cost of monthly expenses if compared to other private dev. (can't compared with HDB as they hv subsidies)
And also wonder why they didn't mention this as green house? Maybe they can't commit it at the end & removed from the list? Heehee..
yap…what u have paid is already priced in.
The saving is, for ele is quite substantial, and should be for the whole development.
As for water , the saving is not really impressive for a development as whole. Just any design to catch rainwater for gardening and cleaning will be able to achieve this saving . And all this saving will translate into lesser maintenance fee or at least will not increase in near future.
I don think all those listed is substantial to be called Green.
yap…what u have paid is already priced in.
The saving is, for ele is quite substantial, and should be for the whole development.
As for water , the saving is not really impressive for a development as whole. Just any design to catch rainwater for gardening and cleaning will be able to achieve this saving . And all this saving will translate into lesser maintenance fee or at least will not increase in near future.
I don think all those listed is substantial to be called Green.
IC.. Thanks for sharing..:)
rattydrama
20-03-11, 08:31
I prefer (and still is) CR to the one I bought last year. Too late (in Feb) to do a subsale and buy CR. Anyway now almost sold out. If it is not mine......then it is not mine.
MCL developer not bad still. I bought an project from them. My sis also bou a unit here. Not many projects these days with view as niece as this. :spliff: If not wrong the price you paid here is cheaper than CR?
rattydrama
20-03-11, 08:53
yap…what u have paid is already priced in.
The saving is, for ele is quite substantial, and should be for the whole development.
As for water , the saving is not really impressive for a development as whole. Just any design to catch rainwater for gardening and cleaning will be able to achieve this saving . And all this saving will translate into lesser maintenance fee or at least will not increase in near future.
I don think all those listed is substantial to be called Green.
The main curprits is electricity cost.
I would think that housing project with the following "green" features will benefits the owners.
Natural ventilation is adopted in central transition spaces such as internal walkways and access areas.
Vegetation and landscaping are utilised to improve the indoor thermal environment and thermal performance of the building. (must look at the orientation of the building)
The sunshade blades to be installed. The blades to protect the northwestern and southeastern facades from solar penetration and glare. (costs $ to developer)
The orientation of the units away from direct sun. (design, land size against max of units is challenging)
A 12th storey 1281 sq ft unit at Woodsvale just set a new record for this estate at $642 psf according to caveat lodged on 3 Mar 2011:D The previous highs were $609 psf for a 13th storey 1313 sq ft unit on Jan 3 and $600 psf for a 12th storey 1292 sq ft unit on Jan 24.
Resales up north are really getting hot now perhaps due to all the new launches in Sembawang, Yishun and Woodlands (by FEO). May be the North-South expressway also plays a role in spiking the prices:D
devilplate
21-03-11, 12:14
A 12th storey 1281 sq ft unit at Woodsvale just set a new record for this estate at $642 psf according to caveat lodged on 3 Mar 2011:D The previous highs were $609 psf for a 13th storey 1313 sq ft unit on Jan 3 and $600 psf for a 12th storey 1292 sq ft unit on Jan 24.
Resales up north are really getting hot now perhaps due to all the new launches in Sembawang, Yishun and Woodlands (by FEO).
u waiting for cube8 rite? happy for u tat woodsvale up upppp
u waiting for cube8 rite? happy for u tat woodsvale up upppp
I not so "tham" wan lah. If I can sell my 3rd storey unit around $600 psf will be very happy oredi lah:D But got to wait for completion of cube8 and you got damned good memory dude:D Progress slow though the old condo oredi gone but dunno started piling or not:beats-me-man:
I not so "tham" wan lah. If I can sell my 3rd storey unit around $600 psf will be very happy oredi lah:D But got to wait for completion of cube8 and you got damned good memory dude:D Progress slow though the old condo oredi gone but dunno started piling or not:beats-me-man:
North is gonna be the new West
devilplate
21-03-11, 12:50
North is gonna be the new West
west px oredi on par with east px....wah piang...so north aso on par soon? whole suburban equal one px?
west px oredi on par with east px....wah piang...so north aso on par soon? whole suburban equal one px?
No North will not be on par. It will be highest cos of 3rd IR :D
No lah, North (far north in this case) is the furthest away from South so will take the longest time to appreciate - that said, the potential is there. Imagine units still selling below 600psf - last time is unheard of, but now if you look around it's a steal liao
The main curprits is electricity cost.
I would think that housing project with the following "green" features will benefits the owners.
Natural ventilation is adopted in central transition spaces such as internal walkways and access areas.
Vegetation and landscaping are utilised to improve the indoor thermal environment and thermal performance of the building. (must look at the orientation of the building)
The sunshade blades to be installed. The blades to protect the northwestern and southeastern facades from solar penetration and glare. (costs $ to developer)
The orientation of the units away from direct sun. (design, land size against max of units is challenging)
From your description, you are quite savvy on Green issue...
rattydrama
26-03-11, 14:04
From your description, you are quite savvy on Green issue...
cos its say they obtained green mark cos of some water feature mah. But in actual fact when translate to savings to owner, its nothing cos water is still cheaper than electricity.
rattydrama
26-03-11, 14:06
A 12th storey 1281 sq ft unit at Woodsvale just set a new record for this estate at $642 psf according to caveat lodged on 3 Mar 2011:D The previous highs were $609 psf for a 13th storey 1313 sq ft unit on Jan 3 and $600 psf for a 12th storey 1292 sq ft unit on Jan 24.
Resales up north are really getting hot now perhaps due to all the new launches in Sembawang, Yishun and Woodlands (by FEO). May be the North-South expressway also plays a role in spiking the prices:D
good for you!! Woodlands all LH. You huat liao!!
still got alot of empty land in North areas...
cos its say they obtained green mark cos of some water feature mah. But in actual fact when translate to savings to owner, its nothing cos water is still cheaper than electricity.
The green mark launched around 2005 to encourage construction industry be environment-friendly and awareness. so the designer got to incorporate these during the design stage.
Understand that it may be translate into mandatory in design but not sure if this is being implemented.
Overall the benefits will goes to the resident in long run as pointed by you.
rattydrama
27-03-11, 22:56
"By 2030, 80% of the existing buildings in Singapore are to achieve at least the BCA Green Mark certification rating. In terms of energy efficiency, the Committee set a target of 35% reduction from the 2005 level by 2030."
"Current developments that do not follow these trends will find themselves becoming obsolete and will need upgrading or replacing, or risk losing value. Green Building Design can future-proof a development. Especially relevant in resource-scarce Singapore, sustainable development has become a must. Green Building Design has therefore become essential. This is reflected in the statutory requirement for all new developments and existing buildings undergoing major retrofi tting works with a Gross Floor Area (GFA) of 2,000 m2 and more to achieve a minimum of Green Mark certified standard. "
http://www.bca.gov.sg/GreenMark/others/bldgplanningmassing.pdf
I also read that GLS also incorporated basic requirements to have green features for all the new projects.
cheers
the showroom nowadays still open...should be 90% sold by now...
the penhouse units are nice...very tempting....
the penhouse units are nice...very tempting....
true penthouse is nice. dunno how many left? the land beside CR is being tendered. dunno will it be similar resort style?
true penthouse is nice. dunno how many left? the land beside CR is being tendered. dunno will it be similar resort style?
i will look at that closely since it is just beside the mall...hope the prices won't be too high though
The PH has too much open space, not worth the price. This project is overvalued. not for investment.
the penhouse units are nice...very tempting....
SSC has nothing much inside, rental income is low... the worst is not near to MRT, visitor traffic is very low... If CMT divests thise mall, this area will be a ghost town. :banghead:
i will look at that closely since it is just beside the mall...hope the prices won't be too high though
SSC has nothing much inside, rental income is low... the worst is not near to MRT, visitor traffic is very low... If CMT divests thise mall, this area will be a ghost town. :banghead:
True but I go SSC than sunplaza leh...if u drive it's ok.
One of the better malls in north to be honest.
If u stay in north, you'll go to either northpoint, ssc or causeway pt....central north the only decent mall is junction 8....
rattydrama
02-04-11, 00:51
True but I go SSC than sunplaza leh...if u drive it's ok.
One of the better malls in north to be honest.
If u stay in north, you'll go to either northpoint, ssc or causeway pt....central north the only decent mall is junction 8....
Serioulsy among all other malls, I prefer SSC cos it is less crowded, i get what I want and with lots of open space fr young children and myself. More relax to shop.
People go there usually not to loiter around but for a purpose. Personally I give this maill a big thumb up.
Serioulsy among all other malls, I prefer SSC cos it is less crowded, i get what I want and with lots of open space fr young children and myself. More relax to shop.
People go there usually not to loiter around but for a purpose. Personally I give this maill a big thumb up.
Yup you dun get pressured to shop fast and kids enjoy it more...compared to AMK hub or NEX it certainly feels more open and relaxed...though shops are far fewer of course
Only one 3 bdrm left. 2 and 2+1 still available, all with lousy facing.
Only one 3 bdrm left. 2 and 2+1 still available, all with lousy facing.
Any special discounts for their 2 bedders?
Any special discounts for their 2 bedders?
770kfor 2 bdrm, 840k for 2+1 and 1037k for 3 bdrm.
770kfor 2 bdrm, 840k for 2+1 and 1037k for 3 bdrm.
So expensive?! 770k can buy a 3 bedroom compact at 8 courtyards! :scared-3:
kingkong1984
02-05-11, 23:07
So expensive?! 770k can buy a 3 bedroom compact at 8 courtyards! :scared-3:
That's why I said eggs better
PH all sold?
Not sure about PH, these are ground flr units with PES.
Almost bought CR especially when the speculation is that 8 courtyards launch will drive CR prices higher, good tactic I guess for the developer.
Bought 8 courtyards instead when the price is so much more attractive.
Olympic size pool at 8 Courtyards made me fall for it. Same like NorthOaks did to me.
However, CR has plus points like close to SSC.
devilplate
02-05-11, 23:15
Almost bought CR especially when the speculation is that 8 courtyards launch will drive CR prices higher, good tactic I guess for the developer.
Bought 8 courtyards instead when the price is so much more attractive.
Olympic size pool at 8 Courtyards made me fall for it. Same like NorthOaks did to me.
However, CR has plus points like close to SSC.
tot CR aso olympic sized pool?
tot CR aso olympic sized pool?
Is lap pool - long and narrow
Due to fact that there are only 300+ units as compared to 8cy's 600+
I bought a 2-bedder. The first batch of cheongster. :D . Agent told me that 2-4th floor price increase 3%. True? Not sure....
I bought it for own stay. Quite like it although I knew the price is steep. U intended to get one?
What is the psf for ur 2 bedder? How big is it?
Is lap pool - long and narrow
Due to fact that there are only 300+ units as compared to 8cy's 600+
8CY is also a lap pool.
My contract stated that the CR's pool size is ard 1000m^2 with 50m long. So, the average width should be ard 20m.:) However, bear in mind that the pool is not a square shape. it will be seen smaller somehow. :(
if you compare the site plan, i don't see 8CY's pool is much bigger than CR.
What is the psf for ur 2 bedder? How big is it?
i bought ard 836psf.. 850sqft.. :)
Land sale result beside CR and SSC will be out this evening..:cool:
rattydrama
26-05-11, 11:17
Land sale result beside CR and SSC will be out this evening..:cool:
I will be surprised if it is too cheap. :p
Land sale result beside CR and SSC will be out this evening..:cool:
i guess it will be about same as canberra. my guess is abt $400psf.
i guess it will be about same as canberra. my guess is abt $400psf.
my guess is closer to 500psf :mad:
kingkong1984
26-05-11, 13:16
it will be higher than $500 (my guess).
it will be higher than $500 (my guess).
Sensoria, Springhill and CR owners will be watching this closely I'm sure...
rattydrama
26-05-11, 14:44
Sensoria, Springhill and CR owners will be watching this closely I'm sure...
Sensoria was 850k 2 bedder last year........nice project imho.... :p
http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/graphics/2011/pr11-61a.pdf
$460psf
kingkong1984
26-05-11, 17:14
http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/graphics/2011/pr11-61a.pdf
$460psf
miltonia residence can go higher now.
$460 psf, $800 break even, selling price $1000 to $1200 psf.
:)
cashland again? It's hao yuen? Who is tat? Anyway, 8 courtyard and miltonia residence all bidded to protect their eggs and flowers.
Sensoria was 850k 2 bedder last year........nice project imho.... :p
When it TOP last time, left overs 2bedder back facing was 550k and front facing was 600k. The 3 bedder showflat was 700k all in with the ID. :(
rattydrama
27-05-11, 20:05
When it TOP last time, left overs 2bedder back facing was 550k and front facing was 600k. The 3 bedder showflat was 700k all in with the ID. :(
but very strange, the price not moving as high as it could be. I am also glad that I din buy this project. no regrats. the price should hold on stronge and well.
rattydrama
27-05-11, 20:08
miltonia residence can go higher now.
$460 psf, $800 break even, selling price $1000 to $1200 psf.
:)
cashland again? It's hao yuen? Who is tat? Anyway, 8 courtyard and miltonia residence all bidded to protect their eggs and flowers.
2nd bidder is Fragrance Group. The boss can smell deals and looking at the price he tendered, he must be very confident of this plot or Yishun property. Too bad our China fren is too stronge for him.
I learnt from peers today that china contractor's workmanship need to improve. usually got ore defects.
who is aspial?? selling jewellery rite?
it will be higher than $500 (my guess).
hehe kingkong i'm right again :D
bargain hunter
30-05-11, 15:20
aspial sells jewellery but also develops ppties under World Class Land.
2nd bidder is Fragrance Group. The boss can smell deals and looking at the price he tendered, he must be very confident of this plot or Yishun property. Too bad our China fren is too stronge for him.
I learnt from peers today that china contractor's workmanship need to improve. usually got ore defects.
who is aspial?? selling jewellery rite?
aspial sells jewellery but also develops ppties under World Class Land.
their jewelry chain is most notably Lee Hwa
Any sales updates? Still have good units available?
Any sales updates? Still have good units available?
Left about 30+ units. They are penthouses or ground floor units.
Cheapest 2 bedder ground floor units stacks 31, 32, 38 and 40 cost 785k. While the cheapest 2 bedder penthouse is 05-27 cost 932k.
Left about 30+ units. They are penthouses or ground floor units.
Cheapest 2 bedder ground floor units stacks 31, 32, 38 and 40 cost 785k. While the cheapest 2 bedder penthouse is 05-27 cost 932k.
thanks...aiyah only left with not so good units .....have to wait for the next one beside liao:(
kingkong1984
23-07-11, 21:42
thanks...aiyah only left with not so good units .....have to wait for the next one beside liao:(
Must be fast... Go for smallest unit.... Hahahaha
Updates for the CR (31 July 2011)
update on 15 Oct 2011
showroom closed. i guess the showroom will be re-used by the condo next to CR.
Some scenes from the old Chong pang village and Jln ulu sembawang in the 80s.
http://youtu.be/T1ca9yPG4-M
http://youtu.be/SbwPw7SBXGg
;)
More scenes of Chong Pang village. This site used to be a market. I remembered I ate at the hawker center opposite last time. :(
http://thelongnwindingroad.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/forgotten-with-time-chong-pang-village/
Launching next month with 435 units beside Sembawang Shopping ctr
Expecting price between $950 to $1100 psf
Launching next month with 435 units beside Sembawang Shopping ctr
Expecting price between $950 to $1100 psf
FH/LH? $1xxx psf??!!!
FH/LH? $1xxx psf??!!!
LH.
Developer got the land just 6 months back. Now, school holiday. Can hire them to queue. lol
sembawang 1100psf?! :scared-1:
lets see who is the CLOWN. nowsaday developer shouting price like nobody business. hope developer will price 1300~1500 and see who will buy
What profile of people you think will be staying there? Nottigals
What profile of people you think will be staying there? Nottigals
yummy i love nottigals. :p
rattydrama
24-11-11, 19:21
today passby this place to eat the famous pork rib mee. its hoarded up already. Next to sembawang SC should be quite nice... there is free shutter to mrt.
Development's name sounds very "seaside-dy". Any links? :p
The sea side is a good 7-8mins drive away.
Here is one of the link
http://the-nauticalcondo.com/
Recently just went to Sembawang park and upgrading is in progress. Very relax.
Lets see how they are going to sell at these prices. Nearby condo will also get a price lift.
Suspecting some land sales nearby next year 2012 (same as chestnut ave/ petir rd area).
BR priced at $1350psf avg, then YR (Yishun Residences) $1250 psf ??? :scared-1:
S$950-S$1,100psf?
Welcome to the new suburban enclave away from the hustle and bustle, nestled in the north area.
Having said that, developer will need to pull a very nice project to command that premium price.
Clap clap, congrats to the undervalued neighbouring developments! Yishun, Sembawang, Admiralty.:D
Here is one of the link
http://the-nauticalcondo.com/
Recently just went to Sembawang park and upgrading is in progress. Very relax.
Lets see how they are going to sell at these prices. Nearby condo will also get a price lift.
Suspecting some land sales nearby next year 2012 (same as chestnut ave/ petir rd area).
BR priced at $1350psf avg, then YR (Yishun Residences) $1250 psf ??? :scared-1:
Artist impression looks damn good!
Another packed like sardine development similar to ATT and luxurie...looks like canberra residents will be laughing to the banks.
:rolleyes:
devilplate
25-11-11, 12:12
Another packed like sardine development similar to ATT and luxurie...looks like canberra residents will be laughing to the banks.
:rolleyes:
those who bot 8cy at 750psf bestest.....
today passby this place to eat the famous pork rib mee. its hoarded up already. Next to sembawang SC should be quite nice... there is free shutter to mrt.
The pork rib mee is still as slow in serving???
Here is one of the link
http://the-nauticalcondo.com/
Recently just went to Sembawang park and upgrading is in progress. Very relax.
Lets see how they are going to sell at these prices. Nearby condo will also get a price lift.
Suspecting some land sales nearby next year 2012 (same as chestnut ave/ petir rd area).
BR priced at $1350psf avg, then YR (Yishun Residences) $1250 psf ??? :scared-1:
Saw this development is using the CR old show room, now doing modification,....they are sure that they are asking at this level of price??...
Saw this development is using the CR old show room, now doing modification,....they are sure that they are asking at this level of price??...
given the flood of condo supplies in OCR regions, mass market condos has to be below $1,000psf. the condo architecture is either you love it or hate it. personally, the ship design to me is quite a joke, but families may like it. if they are serious about selling it before everything goes downhill, they shld launch it at an average of $850psf - $900psf.
given the flood of condo supplies in OCR regions, mass market condos has to be below $1,000psf. the condo architecture is either you love it or hate it. personally, the ship design to me is quite a joke, but families may like it. if they are serious about selling it before everything goes downhill, they shld launch it at an average of $850psf - $900psf.
Haha, if OCR drop drastically. I wonder those who bought RCR and CCR with leverage will probably jump building.
Sell BMW, sell Audi to top up to the banks.:scared-3:
Anyway, the realistic figure of S$850-900 is what is launching previously on the plots slightly away from the hubs for the past year. Now developers are launching near the central areas in heartlands and we can't expect them to price the same right? Haiyoh....... :rolleyes:
The design inspired like a ship doesn't really look like a ship, instead it looks like Aztec pyramids (http://www.andyslater.com/art-n-crafts/foam-pyramid.html), or Bali rice terrace fields (http://www.dreamstime.com/amazing-rice-terrace-field-ubud-bali-indonesia-image12180561).
Lol.... tell me a TK development that is iconic. NONE. It is a jammed pack place with developments sandwiching landed properties, with two lanes and you gotta queue to go home. Atas lifestyle, I can't never figure out why people like to squeeze and show off BMW to fellow BMW drivers in the same district by leveraging to hilt. 虚荣性。:cheers1:
I thought someone mentioned S$850psf Miltonia Residences grab? If grab at this price means damn cheap lor! As such, must be price higher liao lor, coz someone say 'quickly grab'!
:D
Is 8cy sold out?
Should be approaching 90%. If nautical launch, i think the sales @ 8cy will be accelerated.
Living in 8cy means,
Causeway Point (Renovated)
Northpoint (Expanded)
Sembawang Shopping Centre (Renovated)
Seletar Hub (in progress)
Sembawang Park (upgrade in progress)
Seletar Expressway (done and further expanded for Hub)
North South Expressway (in progress)
Khoo Teck Phuat Hospital (done)
Revamped Yishun Hub (in progress)
Johor Bahru (improving)
Speculative MRT (bonus to have)
Business plots just opp. (planned for future)
Yishun MRT (3 bus-stops away, approx)
Limited supply with pent-up demand in Yishun from upgraders.
RCR? Too much supply with alot vested in stocks, holding white collar jobs in banks who will downsize!
Which will drop further?
The hey-day for banks are over.... Technology will rule again!
Haha, if OCR drop drastically. I wonder those who bought RCR and CCR with leverage will probably jump building.
Sell BMW, sell Audi to top up to the banks.:scared-3:
Anyway, the realistic figure of S$850-900 is what is launching previously on the plots slightly away from the hubs for the past year. Now developers are launching near the central areas in heartlands and we can't expect them to price the same right? Haiyoh....... :rolleyes:
The design inspired like a ship doesn't really look like a ship, instead it looks like Aztec pyramids (http://www.andyslater.com/art-n-crafts/foam-pyramid.html), or Bali rice terrace fields (http://www.dreamstime.com/amazing-rice-terrace-field-ubud-bali-indonesia-image12180561).
Lol.... tell me a TK development that is iconic. NONE. It is a jammed pack place with developments sandwiching landed properties, with two lanes and you gotta queue to go home. Atas lifestyle, I can't never figure out why people like to squeeze and show off BMW to fellow BMW drivers in the same district by leveraging to hilt. 虚荣性。:cheers1:
I thought someone mentioned S$850psf Miltonia Residences grab? If grab at this price means damn cheap lor! As such, must be price higher liao lor, coz someone say 'quickly grab'!
:D
okok...those who love this area, pls buy pls buy. $11xx psf also grab. just grab!!!! cheap cheap!!!!
devilplate
26-11-11, 10:47
lets see the take up rate and launch px
to sell above 1kpsf without MRT within 5mins walk is gona be vy tough
prolly only 1bdr selling above 1kpsf.....2/3/4bdrs shd be 8xx-9xxpsf?
lets see the take up rate and launch px
to sell above 1kpsf without MRT within 5mins walk is gona be vy tough
prolly only 1bdr selling above 1kpsf.....2/3/4bdrs shd be 8xx-9xxpsf?
My guess is it will be priced similarly to Woodhaven, albeit higher.
devilplate
26-11-11, 11:04
My guess is it will be priced similarly to Woodhaven, albeit higher.
woodhaven up px liao rite.....initial launch px abt 850-900psf
wah just checked, woodhaven 2/3bdr sold close to 1kpsf liao
Agree on the Bali rice terrace ha ha I did have that first impression!!
Saw this development is using the CR old show room, now doing modification,....they are sure that they are asking at this level of price??...
IMO it WILL SELL. People hate to miss the boat, with this condo, they will NEVER miss the boat, or should I say cruise ship
devilplate
26-11-11, 13:54
IMO it WILL SELL. People hate to miss the boat, with this condo, they will NEVER miss the boat, or should I say cruise ship
Bro, nice saturday afternoon to tcss hor....hehehe
rattydrama
26-11-11, 14:53
The pork rib mee is still as slow in serving???
went there during lunch waiting time about 10 min. My hOng kong fren said yumi..
rattydrama
26-11-11, 14:55
Saw this development is using the CR old show room, now doing modification,....they are sure that they are asking at this level of price??...
should save alot in terms of recycle and re-using, no need to recreate. The best part is CR and this is just side by side.
should save alot in terms of recycle and re-using, no need to recreate. The best part is CR and this is just side by side.
Is win win for both infact..no need to make good to original state while the later save on the established infarstrucrure ..
went there during lunch waiting time about 10 min. My hOng kong fren said yumi..
Yes it nice... Their serving used to be generous , now not so Liao ...the
Night time zhe char don not shifted where ?
given the flood of condo supplies in OCR regions, mass market condos has to be below $1,000psf. the condo architecture is either you love it or hate it. personally, the ship design to me is quite a joke, but families may like it. if they are serious about selling it before everything goes downhill, they shld launch it at an average of $850psf - $900psf.
My previous posting mentioned that the developer got this land price at $460 psf (~$192 miil).
Recent chestnut ave land highest bid @ $426psf. Breakeven price $850 - $900 (Report).
What do you think ? I would say how they market it.
Should be approaching 90%. If nautical launch, i think the sales @ 8cy will be accelerated.
Living in 8cy means,
Causeway Point (Renovated)
Northpoint (Expanded)
Sembawang Shopping Centre (Renovated)
Seletar Hub (in progress)
Sembawang Park (upgrade in progress)
Seletar Expressway (done and further expanded for Hub)
North South Expressway (in progress)
Khoo Teck Phuat Hospital (done)
Revamped Yishun Hub (in progress)
Johor Bahru (improving)
Speculative MRT (bonus to have)
Business plots just opp. (planned for future)
Yishun MRT (3 bus-stops away, approx)
Limited supply with pent-up demand in Yishun from upgraders.
RCR? Too much supply with alot vested in stocks, holding white collar jobs in banks who will downsize!
Which will drop further?
The hey-day for banks are over.... Technology will rule again!
Just drove along TPE, saw the Seletar Hub. Nice Rolls Royce building. Many big MNC coming up in a few years time. Yishun, Sengkang & Punggol only less than 10mins drive away.
IMO it WILL SELL. People hate to miss the boat, with this condo, they will NEVER miss the boat, or should I say cruise ship
Lo...... It will sail (sell) ...
Lo...... It will sail (sell) ...
this one permanent lar wun sail away.. anchor on the grounds of sembawang
rattydrama
27-11-11, 14:51
My previous posting mentioned that the developer got this land price at $460 psf (~$192 miil).
Recent chestnut ave land highest bid @ $426psf. Breakeven price $850 - $900 (Report).
What do you think ? I would say how they market it.
mcc is a china developer, my prediction is we may get a bargin price here.
there are 2 launches after this and I think developer is keen to ride on the wave before it dries up.
low rise project and china developer and another plot just next door building now, so my guess is the CM cost should be cheaper.
cm= construction mgmt
rattydrama
27-11-11, 14:56
http://the-nauticalcondo.com/project-details.html
rattydrama
27-11-11, 15:01
Type: Penthouse (Dual Key)
Type: PH 1 - 4, 6 - 7,10 - 13
Size: 1579 to 1945 sqft
Total 32 units
Penthouse got duo-key not bad but must see the layout. Is this the first project?
3bed starts from 988sqft- price to kill. :D
If the swimming pool is small or crowded, just cross the road as govt is building a Recreation ctr similar to the one at Sengkang.
rattydrama
27-11-11, 21:30
Type: Penthouse (Dual Key)
Type: PH 1 - 4, 6 - 7,10 - 13
Size: 1579 to 1945 sqft
Total 32 units
Penthouse got duo-key not bad but must see the layout. Is this the first project?
3bed starts from 988sqft- price to kill. :D
I am saying its 844sq ft for 3bedder. it will be very small and the overall quantum will be attractive. Maybe 700K
rattydrama
27-11-11, 21:31
If the swimming pool is small or crowded, just cross the road as govt is building a Recreation ctr similar to the one at Sengkang.
sounds silly isnt it?
devilplate
27-11-11, 21:44
I am saying its 844sq ft for 3bedder. it will be very small and the overall quantum will be attractive. Maybe 700K
I tot sm1 said 950-1100psf?
Hmmm...844sqft puny mouse.....8xxk? High chance give inferior fittings.....
Found some floor plans here:
http://www.thenauticalcondo.info/The-Nautical@Jalan-Sendudok-The-Nautical-Singapore-The-Nautical@Sembawang-The-nautical-New-Launch.html
If the swimming pool is small or crowded, just cross the road as govt is building a Recreation ctr similar to the one at Sengkang.
er, i think people choose to live in condo so they don't have to share public pool right? :confused:
I tot sm1 said 950-1100psf?
Hmmm...844sqft puny mouse.....8xxk? High chance give inferior fittings.....
on another note i went to see a 818sqft 2br resale and the agent keep saying 'mickey mouse' apartments like this is very popular and sells very fast. then i told agent that for a unit to be called MM or shoebox, it has to be < 506sqft and hence 818sqft is NOT MM.
then the agent just laughed and said, "hiya, to me anything smaller than 1000sqft is MM lah!"
:doh: :doh: :doh:
devilplate
27-11-11, 21:52
er, i think people choose to live in condo so they don't have to share public pool right? :confused:
Stay condo let frens, relatives use pool de....den resident themselves use public pool...tats the latest trend ....whahaha
sounds silly isnt it?
Haha. Just jokin.
But kids will want to go there more. look at the kids play pool at Sengkang & Jurong East Rec. ctr. or downtown East.
For adults, we want the whole pool by ourself. Hehe. That's y we pay a premium.
Haha. Just jokin.
But kids will want to go there more. look at the kids play pool at Sengkang & Jurong East Rec. ctr. or downtown East.
For adults, we want the whole pool by ourself. Hehe. That's y we pay a premium.
true. some pay for jaccuzzi in PES....then realize that they only use the jacuzzi once a year....haha...:doh:
Stay condo let frens, relatives use pool de....den resident themselves use public pool...tats the latest trend ....whahaha
Haha. True to certain extent.
My RCR condo over the weekends, not many people use it but my fren condo in the north, wow, quite crowded. I myself witness many times. Probably, fren & relatives live nearby HDB.
true. some pay for jaccuzzi in PES....then realize that they only use the jacuzzi once a year....haha...:doh:
Bingo. For 2 years, i used it only twice. Dun know y. Dun have the pull effect from kids. Boring to them.
Nonetheless, good to have. Price of HDB in that area will get a boost and this will act as a support of EC, then EC to PC.
I am saying its 844sq ft for 3bedder. it will be very small and the overall quantum will be attractive. Maybe 700K
Nowhere near $700k, which is only 829 psf. This is only breakeven for the developer.
Still early days, no price confirmation but can roughly gauge.
rattydrama
28-11-11, 10:02
I tot sm1 said 950-1100psf?
Hmmm...844sqft puny mouse.....8xxk? High chance give inferior fittings.....
Let's see. I am 90% wrong maybe 10% right..haha...MCC not FEO...
rattydrama
28-11-11, 10:12
Nowhere near $700k, which is only 829 psf. This is only breakeven for the developer.
Still early days, no price confirmation but can roughly gauge.
few units as early bird sales to push the project? There are too many projects and the sales is going slower these days so might have possibility.
If you cannot fight on the location then the next thing to do is to reduce the price. My take is OCR is the last to rise and the first to fall if it is not near MRT. So developer has to push else when the Tsunami arrives, it is even harder...got to give free car, tour packages or absorb stamp duty.
Why I am saying this is that last weekend papers OCR printed price clearly shows...from 4xxk, 5xxk, 6xxk (2bed) etc..
devilplate
28-11-11, 10:29
few units as early bird sales to push the project? There are too many projects and the sales is going slower these days so might have possibility.
If you cannot fight on the location then the next thing to do is to reduce the price. My take is OCR is the last to rise and the first to fall if it is not near MRT. So developer has to push else when the Tsunami arrives, it is even harder...got to give free car, tour packages or absorb stamp duty.
Why I am saying this is that last weekend papers OCR printed price clearly shows...from 4xxk, 5xxk, 6xxk (2bed) etc..
yoyo....current situation dun indicates tat leh.....cmi ocr first to fall? i tink opposite.....its the cmi ccr first to fall this time
ocr got super HDBs to support ok!!! someone mentioned parkview 800k vs nearby HDB 5xxk ok.....hehehe
anyway doesnt matter who fall first or last to fall....eventually ALL WILL FALL
rattydrama
28-11-11, 16:01
yoyo....current situation dun indicates tat leh.....cmi ocr first to fall? i tink opposite.....its the cmi ccr first to fall this time
ocr got super HDBs to support ok!!! someone mentioned parkview 800k vs nearby HDB 5xxk ok.....hehehe
anyway doesnt matter who fall first or last to fall....eventually ALL WILL FALL
Holding power wor. at 1100 psf do you think it wont fall? Resale price has not reach this level wor.
OCR fren wud prefer bigger layout and not 8xxsq for 3 bedder. min should be 1100 sqft.
If I am the HDB upgrader, will sell HDB and move to CCR at down market.
phantom_opera
28-11-11, 16:44
Nowadays, the MM/studio/1br kitchen's stove placement all screw up from the angle of feng shui
The stove is synonymous to wealth in Feng Shui. It is not advisable to have the stove seen from the living room as this is tantamount to exposing your wealth to others. Especially if the front door opens to a stove. The chi from the outside is sucked into the house through the door, hitting the stove, which threatens the stability of the stove or fortune. Worse if there are two or more doors in line with the stove because every door acts like a pump that sucks in chi, two or more doors in a row are like two or more pumps connected in a series, the combined suction is quite strong.
Nowadays, the MM/studio/1br kitchen's stove placement all screw up from the angle of feng shui
The stove is synonymous to wealth in Feng Shui. It is not advisable to have the stove seen from the living room as this is tantamount to exposing your wealth to others. Especially if the front door opens to a stove. The chi from the outside is sucked into the house through the door, hitting the stove, which threatens the stability of the stove or fortune. Worse if there are two or more doors in line with the stove because every door acts like a pump that sucks in chi, two or more doors in a row are like two or more pumps connected in a series, the combined suction is quite strong.
Wow. Seems like I need to shift my balcony doors to the other side then... ...
devilplate
28-11-11, 17:41
Holding power wor. at 1100 psf do you think it wont fall? Resale price has not reach this level wor.
OCR fren wud prefer bigger layout and not 8xxsq for 3 bedder. min should be 1100 sqft.
If I am the HDB upgrader, will sell HDB and move to CCR at down market.
I said all will fall eventually
But i disagree tat ocr fall first
Lets see la....;)
devilplate
28-11-11, 17:42
Nowadays, the MM/studio/1br kitchen's stove placement all screw up from the angle of feng shui
The stove is synonymous to wealth in Feng Shui. It is not advisable to have the stove seen from the living room as this is tantamount to exposing your wealth to others. Especially if the front door opens to a stove. The chi from the outside is sucked into the house through the door, hitting the stove, which threatens the stability of the stove or fortune. Worse if there are two or more doors in line with the stove because every door acts like a pump that sucks in chi, two or more doors in a row are like two or more pumps connected in a series, the combined suction is quite strong.
Its all in ur mind ;)
Haha. Just jokin.
But kids will want to go there more. look at the kids play pool at Sengkang & Jurong East Rec. ctr. or downtown East.
For adults, we want the whole pool by ourself. Hehe. That's y we pay a premium.
For this? :cheers5: :cheers5:
http://static.stomp.com.sg/site/servlet/linkableblob/stomp/195304/thumbnail/shameless_couple_engages_in_intimate_behaviour_in_bukit_timah_co-thumbnail
rattydrama
28-11-11, 20:08
got the video? pic might be deceiving. LOL
Nowadays, the MM/studio/1br kitchen's stove placement all screw up from the angle of feng shui
The stove is synonymous to wealth in Feng Shui. It is not advisable to have the stove seen from the living room as this is tantamount to exposing your wealth to others. Especially if the front door opens to a stove. The chi from the outside is sucked into the house through the door, hitting the stove, which threatens the stability of the stove or fortune. Worse if there are two or more doors in line with the stove because every door acts like a pump that sucks in chi, two or more doors in a row are like two or more pumps connected in a series, the combined suction is quite strong.
can this be offset by a pool view from the balcony .. water water ..fortune fortune.. come in:cheers1:
phantom_opera
29-11-11, 14:13
can this be offset by a pool view from the balcony .. water water ..fortune fortune.. come in:cheers1:
Common sense fengshui is quite scientific, nothing superstitious:
Strong wind could come in through the main door or balcony making the stove gas unstable, strong wind also disturbs the cook ... that is also why bedroom door should never opens directly to main door or full height window / balcony
devilplate
29-11-11, 14:56
Common sense fengshui is quite scientific, nothing superstitious:
Strong wind could come in through the main door or balcony making the stove gas unstable, strong wind also disturbs the cook ... that is also why bedroom door should never opens directly to main door or full height window / balcony
dun get it.....
u toking about mm wif open concept kitchen?
do u realise open concept kitchen dun use gas stove?
Actually not bad, Sembawang shopping center next door can use their free shuttle bus service haa haa....:D
phantom_opera
29-11-11, 15:12
dun get it.....
u toking about mm wif open concept kitchen?
do u realise open concept kitchen dun use gas stove?
even dun use gas stove, it is still bad for the cook ... well may be nowadays young people don't cook at all :D
even dun use gas stove, it is still bad for the cook ... well may be nowadays young people don't cook at all :D
Nowadays i use charcoal.
devilplate
29-11-11, 15:31
Nowadays i use charcoal.
er....u become neighbour of Mr B meh? hehehe
devilplate
29-11-11, 15:32
even dun use gas stove, it is still bad for the cook ... well may be nowadays young people don't cook at all :D
those who stay MM wun do heavy cooking one....
singles or couples stay nia....boil maggie mee, use oven and microwave alot more den silly induction/ceramic stove
Some details of the site here:
http://www.ura.gov.sg/sales/SbwJlnSendudok/SbwJS-intro.html
Those nearest to SSC will face its white walls. :scared-3:
Some details of the site here:
http://www.ura.gov.sg/sales/SbwJlnSendudok/SbwJS-intro.html
Those nearest to SSC will face its white walls. :scared-3:
Plot is small....
few units as early bird sales to push the project? There are too many projects and the sales is going slower these days so might have possibility.
If you cannot fight on the location then the next thing to do is to reduce the price. My take is OCR is the last to rise and the first to fall if it is not near MRT. So developer has to push else when the Tsunami arrives, it is even harder...got to give free car, tour packages or absorb stamp duty.
Why I am saying this is that last weekend papers OCR printed price clearly shows...from 4xxk, 5xxk, 6xxk (2bed) etc..
Best is wait until 2H 2012 to get clearer view of situation b4 plunging in. Save up 1st. Buyers will b spoilt for choice next year. Tenants will b spoilt for choice in 2015.
It will be near but not next to SCC and this plot. Basically it follows gambas ave to join to Sembawang road at yishun there.
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/doc/NSErampsrev2-1.pdf
So to go to city next time just drive straight south along sembawang road and go up the ramp to NSE at Khatib camp there.
It will be near but not next to SCC and this plot. Basically it follows gambas ave to join to Sembawang road at yishun there.
http://www.lta.gov.sg/projects/doc/NSErampsrev2-1.pdf
So to go to city next time just drive straight south along sembawang road and go up the ramp to NSE at Khatib camp there.
Got 2 highways to choose from in the future for northlanders. 15 mins to different parts of city. This will ease the congestion at CTE and ERP being removed...hmm...
Some details of the site here:
http://www.ura.gov.sg/sales/SbwJlnSendudok/SbwJS-intro.html
Those nearest to SSC will face its white walls. :scared-3:
Nice landscaping will do away this.
1100psf too expenssive, may be slightly less then a k(950++) can consider lah, bcoz near to SSC.
Comparing this Nautical w CR or 8Cy, which one is better?
Tq
Comparing this Nautical w CR or 8Cy, which one is better?
Tq
IMO, should be 8CY, which is nearer to the upcoming Yishun hub. Look at the BP site. Further, price supported by EC. and surely cheaper than The Nautical.
Nautical design is quite unique.
IMO, should be 8CY, which is nearer to the upcoming Yishun hub. Look at the BP site. Further, price supported by EC. and surely cheaper than The Nautical.
Nautical design is quite unique.
Pro 888, thank you for the advice
May I ask ur opinion re' YE & YS ?
as I am not that familiar w those two condos
Tq
Pro 888, thank you for the advice
May I ask ur opinion re' YE & YS ?
as I am not that familiar w those two condos
Tq
Both TOP 2002 same developer with almost same design. Price between $600 plus to $700 plus psf. Quite spacious layout.
Depending on your preference & requirement. Want quick move-in, these will be the choice. If you are not driving, they do have regular shuttle bus service.
With the massive spending from the govt on TSL & NSE, upcoming Yishun hub, seletar Aerospace hub (new road will be built to link up to Yishun). The potential is there. Others & myself have mentioned before.
Both TOP 2002 same developer with almost same design. Price between $600 plus to $700 plus psf. Quite spacious layout.
Depending on your preference & requirement. Want quick move-in, these will be the choice. If you are not driving, they do have regular shuttle bus service.
With the massive spending from the govt on TSL & NSE, upcoming Yishun hub, seletar Aerospace hub (new road will be built to link up to Yishun). The potential is there. Others & myself have mentioned before.
Pro888, thank you for sharing
Pro 888, thank you for the advice
May I ask ur opinion re' YE & YS ?
as I am not that familiar w those two condos
Tq
one of them seems to have mrt track running through it on the side??
Quite interested in the compact 3 bedder 829sqft. Its smaller than the 2 bedders of Canberra residences, and if sold at similar price of 700k+, will be quite good.
:D
one of them seems to have mrt track running through it on the side??
Both YE & YS, including 8cy. There are many units that are some distant away.
Many old & new projects are also near to the track.
Jurong to Chinese Garden - Centris, lakehome, Parc Oasis
Yew Tee - Yee Tee pt
CCK - dun know what name
Bukit Batok - dun know what name (next to West mall)
Bukit Batok to Bukit Gombak - also got 1, dun know what name.
Admiralty to Sembawang - Got 2
Sembwang to Yishun - Got 3
Khatib to YCK - Got 2, Central Green & Nuovo
YCK to AMK - Got 2 including Centro
Kallang - Southbank
Many more .... tired alredi...
Hopefully, one fine day, technology can change how these trains "roll" on the track or coverup (scoop up) the track with some sound absorbent material.
Quite interested in the compact 3 bedder 829sqft. Its smaller than the 2 bedders of Canberra residences, and if sold at similar price of 700k+, will be quite good.
:D
HK style. Build small small. Increase the number of units. Overall quantum is "affordable". Affordable not i use want hor.
It has very similar layout to the 2 bedder of Canberra Residences. Just that they removed the HS shelter, make the balcony and kitchen smaller and used these saved space to become the 3rd bedroom.
:beats-me-man:
IMO, should be 8CY, which is nearer to the upcoming Yishun hub. Look at the BP site. Further, price supported by EC. and surely cheaper than The Nautical.
Nautical design is quite unique.
Hi Pro888 where is Yishun hub locate at? near to 8CY?
Hi Pro888 where is Yishun hub locate at? near to 8CY?
Right @ existing bus interchange. Exactly the same concept as BR & BP. Call for tender anytime now. No $850psf No sell from govt.
8cy is about 700m away.
Right @ existing bus interchange. Exactly the same concept as BR & BP. Call for tender anytime now. No $850psf No sell from govt.
8cy is about 700m away.
Looking forward. :)
this one next to yishun central should be interesting.
Common sense fengshui is quite scientific, nothing superstitious:
Strong wind could come in through the main door or balcony making the stove gas unstable, strong wind also disturbs the cook ... that is also why bedroom door should never opens directly to main door or full height window / balcony
looks like i need to set up an altar in the mountain and pray for dong feng :p
Looking forward. :)
Me 2.
The Nautical, EC, Yishun hub, Seletar Aerospace park (currently constructing the link to Yishun). and i didn't notice the widenin of TPE until today. TPE is relatively new.
Me 2.
The Nautical, EC, Yishun hub, Seletar Aerospace park (currently constructing the link to Yishun). and i didn't notice the widenin of TPE until today. TPE is relatively new.
Seletar Aerospace Park (SAP) is set to see further expansion, in line with increasing industry demand as Singapore reinforces its position as a major aerospace hub.
JTC Corporation, the master planner and developer behind the project, yesterday said that Phase 3 of the development will see more ready-built facilities and infrastructure works stretching over an additional 70ha of land to support the demand for space. This will raise the total land area of the park, which also incorporates Seletar Airport, to 320ha.
Infrastructural works for Phase 1 and 2, spanning a total of 90ha, were completed in September. It is already about 77 per cent occupied or reserved. JTC said that the development of Phase 3, which includes 20ha with runway access, will begin early next year and is expected to be completed by 2014.
When SAP is completed, it is expected to provide jobs for some 10,000 workers. This was revealed yesterday at the official opening of the $12.7-million Business Aviation Complex. The seven-storey building is designed mainly for small and medium-sized companies that provide support services such as maintenance, repair and overhaul.
Mr Manohar Khiatani, chief executive of JTC, said that the primary objective in the development of SAP is to create a “unique ecosystem” that serves the needs of all players in the aerospace industry.
He added that interest in space at Seletar Aerospace Park continues to be strong despite concerns of a global economic slowdown, and that the company is preparing ahead of demand.
Mr Khiatani also said that the park could be expanded even further, if necessary, although plans have not been firmed up. Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office S. Iswaran, who was guest of honour, said he is optimistic about the long-term outlook for the global aviation industry, even though headwinds from high oil prices and uncertain global economic conditions exist.
Mr Iswaran, who is also Second Minister for Home Affairs and Trade and Industry, revealed that Singapore’s aerospace industry has grown by an average of 12 per cent per annum over the last two decades.
The sector saw a record total output of $7.2 billion last year.
Looking forward. :)
believe will be more affordable. hope they launch during school holidays:p
That area has chopped down so many trees. Super hot leh.
That area has chopped down so many trees. Super hot leh.
More GLS in 2012 for that area. Similar to Sengkang, Punggol & Pasir Ris this year.
The first one should be the land parcel with plot ratio of 2.1 (junction of Sembawang Rd & Canberra Link - formerly Yishun Ave 2)
The showroom is being re-used as a showroom for the new EC.
Right @ existing bus interchange. Exactly the same concept as BR & BP. Call for tender anytime now. No $850psf No sell from govt.
8cy is about 700m away.
i would think further - from the map it is 1.1km to the MRT.
With bus interchange across the road, the distance should be 1.2 to 1.3km away
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/new-homes-listing/eight-courtyards-2131
i would think further - from the map it is 1.1km to the MRT.
With bus interchange across the road, the distance should be 1.2 to 1.3km away
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/new-homes-listing/eight-courtyards-2131
:) 2 bus stops away with quite a few buses to choose from.
rattydrama
04-12-11, 19:50
:) 2 bus stops away with quite a few buses to choose from.
got to take bus quite sian if got handful of things and kids jumping...direct walkable to mrt n not under hot sun is ideal. or free shuttle bus from condo lagi better.
got to take bus quite sian if got handful of things and kids jumping...direct walkable to mrt n not under hot sun is ideal. or free shuttle bus from condo lagi better.
got free shuttle service included. :)
got free shuttle service included. :)
usually last for 2 years - then sell :D
usually last for 2 years - then sell :D
Free shuttle bus at SSC next door to Yishun or Sembawang MRT. No need to pay one. :D
They have some interesting dual key penthouses. Lower level is the foyer and studio unit, upper level is a big 3/4 bedroom single level penthouse. :D
They have some interesting dual key penthouses. Lower level is the foyer and studio unit, upper level is a big 3/4 bedroom single level penthouse. :D
good for extended family, with grandparents living on the lower level.
usually last for 2 years - then sell :D
that is short sightedness.
bargain hunter
06-12-11, 08:45
Far East's The Hillier, a 528-unit project in Hillview Avenue, near the upcoming Hillview MRT station, and the 435-apartment The Nautical in Sembawang being built by MCC Land, will be launched within the next two weeks.
Agents said prices at The Hillier are expected to be around $1,200 psf, with 503 sq ft one-bedroom units to go for about $750,000.
Indicative prices for The Nautical are expected to range between $850 and $1,000 psf.
Looks like they will have to reprice it to 800-900psf range liaoz. :D Or give full stamp duty rebate.
Looks like they will have to reprice it to 800-900psf range liaoz. :D Or give full stamp duty rebate.
Hillier < $950psf can consider.
Developers now cannot sleep.
Any1 got any idea when this goin to launch ?
rattydrama
10-12-11, 11:09
today in the ST, price starts from 480K. smallest unit is 432 sqft works out to be $1.1k psf.
today in the ST, price starts from 480K. smallest unit is 432 sqft works out to be $1.1k psf.
wow they are brave :scared-4:
test of how many people out there either don't own multiple properties, or have 2 properties but still have the appetite to digest the additional 3%.
test of how many people out there either don't own multiple properties, or have 2 properties but still have the appetite to digest the additional 3%.
yes. after it dropped 20-30%, a merely 3% is nothing.
its a cost saving
rattydrama
10-12-11, 11:23
wow within minutes so many posts...:rolleyes: 1.1psf is still high. I dont think bro here is brave enough to go in at this price even if affordability is not an issue.
its not the 3% extra, it is the fear of prices coming down like a knife. :scared-4:
I said earlier if price drop 20% will go in but now if that really happens, I dont know if I am daring enough. haven really recover from the cm shock....
wow within minutes so many posts...:rolleyes: 1.1psf is still high. I dont think bro here is brave enough to go in at this price even if affordability is not an issue.
its not the 3% extra, it is the fear of prices coming down like a knife. :scared-4:
I said earlier if price drop 20% will go in but now if that really happens, I dont know if I am daring enough. haven really recover from the cm shock....
i will still go for it! Buy prime properties :p
today in the ST, price starts from 480K. smallest unit is 432 sqft works out to be $1.1k psf.
Yes. MM going for that price.
Just treat it as mixed developmt (Commercial & Residential ). SSC just next dr.
Hillier $1200
BR - $1350
Sim Lian @ BP - $1300 breakeven
TN - $1100 Cheap liao loh. It is more than 10% discount compare to BR.
i will still go for it! Buy prime properties :p
Used to know a currency broker who bought at 20% correction from Bishan's peak 10 years ago and saw it plunge further.
Then again, that was Singapore before we are well-known in the world.
rattydrama
11-12-11, 10:07
Yes. MM going for that price.
Just treat it as mixed developmt (Commercial & Residential ). SSC just next dr.
Hillier $1200
BR - $1350
Sim Lian @ BP - $1300 breakeven
TN - $1100 Cheap liao loh. It is more than 10% discount compare to BR.
10% is not the buzz word. I want to see more or better location. :-)
Used to know a currency broker who bought at 20% correction from Bishan's peak 10 years ago and saw it plunge further.
Then again, that was Singapore before we are well-known in the world.
was that HDB or Bishan 8? the latter was launched around 1000psf so if 20% correction is 800psf - good price now.
1 bdrm $1200psf.
http://www.thenautical-condo.com/
1 bdrm $1200psf.
http://www.thenautical-condo.com/
any takers? :cheers1:
rattydrama
14-12-11, 10:43
any takers? :cheers1:
It should be tuf. this time round should target bigger units.
It should be tuf. this time round should target bigger units.
Very tough sell now. I will take those at other reservoirs at this psf.
rattydrama
14-12-11, 17:56
Very tough sell now. I will take those at other reservoirs at this psf.
1 bedroom can only survive in town areas. buyer maybe holding on risker asset in this location at 1200psf.
maybe can consider if it is near 350k.
But what do I know, I am not a mm person.
phantom_opera
15-12-11, 16:30
Lelong lelong received sms from agent, looks like price further slashed to below 1000psf on average
1br 410k-470k (410-570sqft)
2br 650k-720k (764 to 1001sqft)
3br 730k-1.1m (824-1389sqft)
Looks like close to Palette pricing ... 1br quantum low enough to attract itchy spiders
Lelong lelong received sms from agent, looks like price further slashed to below 1000psf on average
1br 410k-470k (410-570sqft)
2br 650k-720k (764 to 1001sqft)
3br 730k-1.1m (824-1389sqft)
Looks like close to Palette pricing ... 1br quantum low enough to attract itchy spiders
Grab ah! Same situation as 8cy when it was launched after CM. :D
Looks cheaper than 8CY and CR!!
Lelong lelong received sms from agent, looks like price further slashed to below 1000psf on average
1br 410k-470k (410-570sqft)
2br 650k-720k (764 to 1001sqft) = 720psf??
3br 730k-1.1m (824-1389sqft)
Looks like close to Palette pricing ... 1br quantum low enough to attract itchy spiders
wow psf looks really low :D
wow psf looks really low :D
That's with PES I'm sure. :)
$900-1100psf. Not cheap for e location.
$900-1100psf. Not cheap for e location.
agree, a half-baked mall with no major transportation connection.
I thought the general sentiment now in this forum is anything 50% off then is cheap?:doh:
I thought the general sentiment now in this forum is anything 50% off then is cheap?:doh:
It's the itchy hand syndrome at work.
Lelong lelong received sms from agent, looks like price further slashed to below 1000psf on average
1br 410k-470k (410-570sqft)
2br 650k-720k (764 to 1001sqft)
3br 730k-1.1m (824-1389sqft)
Looks like close to Palette pricing ... 1br quantum low enough to attract itchy spiders
I tot they postpone. Notin is being finalized yet and can't be selling at a loss becoz of CM5. I dun tin anyone will dare to launch. Let the dust settle. Human easy to forget.
Just got to know that their vvip preview is tomorrow. But heard that they will not issue the option on the spot, but 1 week later. Strange.... :beats-me-man: Might be testing market response.
Anybody went to see the response? :beats-me-man:
Anybody went to see the response? :beats-me-man:
If FEO needs to cut its pricing for its Hillier, general sentiment must be quite poor for condos.
If FEO needs to cut its pricing for its Hillier, general sentiment must be quite poor for condos.
Why Hillier prices is supposedly cut? First, office rentals are dipping and the whole concept is SOHO. Second, imagine landlords fighting for same tenant segment.
Price and rentals to hold require good mix of SOHO and homestay.
Remember underlying demand is still coming from upgraders or families.
Condos in north are for homestay and if SOHO? there is Woodhaven which has SOHO snapped up because supply demand is well balanced with homestay families unlike Hillier that creates SOHO MM oversupply with Tennery in the same upper Bukit Timah area.
If actual fact, no discount. Still selling at $1200 psf.
Up the price, then gv discount. :D
i passed by on saturday though is raining, the crowd not bad too..
anybody knows hows the sales like?
i passed by on saturday though is raining, the crowd not bad too..
anybody knows hows the sales like?
I'm quietly confident of this project
rattydrama
18-12-11, 19:35
If actual fact, no discount. Still selling at $1200 psf.
Up the price, then gv discount. :D
You referring to Hillier or this neutical?
So what's the psf for this project for 2 & 3 bedder?
You referring to Hillier or this neutical?
Bro Pro888 was referring to Hillier for the pricing mentioned.
Bro Pro888 was referring to Hillier for the pricing mentioned.
Yes. It is Hillier. Thanks Bro solsys for answerin 4me.
Seem like nobody got any iinfo on Nautical.
Yes. It is Hillier. Thanks Bro solsys for answerin 4me.
Seem like nobody got any iinfo on Nautical.
No info means the buyers who went there are seriously considering the good reasonable prices. If it's bad, high prices then i'm sure people will be screaming here.
No agent screaming and posting layouts and etc means should be doing well.
Just saw ad from propertyguru, $872psf for cheapest 3BR , #02-85. 829sqft worst unit I guess.
Just saw ad from propertyguru, $872psf for cheapest 3BR , #02-85. 829sqft worst unit I guess.
Thats 722888. Quite ok price for a 3 bedder. But if u look at floor area, it is more expensive than canberra residences. Their 2 bedder already 850sqft and was selling around 700k+ during launch.
The layout of this mini 3 bedder is similar to the 2 bedder of canberra residences except there is no HS shelter and smaller balcony. The saved space is squeezed into a 3rd bedroom.
:beats-me-man:
Thats 722888. Quite ok price for a 3 bedder. But if u look at floor area, it is more expensive than canberra residences. Their 2 bedder already 850sqft and was selling around 700k+ during launch.
The layout of this mini 3 bedder is similar to the 2 bedder of canberra residences except there is no HS shelter and smaller balcony. The saved space is squeezed into a 3rd bedroom.
:beats-me-man:
Correct. Pool view units shd be close to $1000psf. Avg psf shd be $900-$1000.
Thats 722888. Quite ok price for a 3 bedder. But if u look at floor area, it is more expensive than canberra residences. Their 2 bedder already 850sqft and was selling around 700k+ during launch.
The layout of this mini 3 bedder is similar to the 2 bedder of canberra residences except there is no HS shelter and smaller balcony. The saved space is squeezed into a 3rd bedroom.
:beats-me-man:
For the 2bdrm vs CR, it is worth at $670K, 764sqft?
devilplate
19-12-11, 09:50
For the 2bdrm vs CR, it is worth at $670K, 764sqft?
get the cheapest 3bdr.....730k 3bdr shd be ok bah.....the layout damn efficient
Actually I am very tempted with the mini 3 bedder....But the extra stamp duty is a big turn off. :(
devilplate
19-12-11, 10:17
Actually I am very tempted with the mini 3 bedder....But the extra stamp duty is a big turn off. :(
bargain wif developer la.....ask for 3% abosrption
propertychap
19-12-11, 10:23
Are you talking about nautica? Is it preview?
propertychap
19-12-11, 10:34
Am thinking of going to woodlands sembawang yishun area for look see showrooms. Any recommendations? Is Nautica show room up?
Its already open for viewing and booking on Sat i think.
bargain wif developer la.....ask for 3% abosrption
I tried but they don't absorbed the 3 percent.
I tried but they don't absorbed the 3 percent.
North is resilient, I like. :D
devilplate
19-12-11, 18:13
I tried but they don't absorbed the 3 percent.
so tao.....
feo willing to give leh.....although mark up first ....wakaka
wait few wks later den offer again.....mabe can get 5-10% cheaper....
so tao.....
feo willing to give leh.....although mark up first ....wakaka
wait few wks later den offer again.....mabe can get 5-10% cheaper....
Ta han first, hope units still available by then. For stay and not expecting gains.
Went to have a look today. Interesting design with some facilities including the tennis court on the 6th level of some blocks.
Some pricing:
2bed #03-99 764sqft $663100
2bed #03-16 764sqft $670700
3bed #02-85 829sqft $722950
3bed #03-09 829sqft $741950
3bed #02-55 883sqft $755250
3bed #02-98 883sqft $781850
:beats-me-man:
phantom_opera
21-12-11, 14:30
Went to have a look today. Interesting design with some facilities including the tennis court on the 6th level of some blocks.
Some pricing:
2bed #03-99 764sqft $663100
2bed #03-16 764sqft $670700
3bed #02-85 829sqft $722950
3bed #03-09 829sqft $741950
3bed #02-55 883sqft $755250
3bed #02-98 883sqft $781850
:beats-me-man:
the 3br pricing is similar to Palette 2+S ... going forward this may be the norm i.e. compact 2+S / 3br at 800k price point
Went to have a look today. Interesting design with some facilities including the tennis court on the 6th level of some blocks.
Some pricing:
2bed #03-99 764sqft $663100
2bed #03-16 764sqft $670700
3bed #02-85 829sqft $722950
3bed #03-09 829sqft $741950
3bed #02-55 883sqft $755250
3bed #02-98 883sqft $781850
:beats-me-man:
These units listed are the still available or are transacted price?
Still balance a lot units for 2 and 3 compact for 829sqft and 883sqft?
They are still available. I think about 50+ units sold so far. :beats-me-man:
They are still available. I think about 50+ units sold so far. :beats-me-man:
Ha ha good, big thanks for sharing. I wait for awhile before deciding the 2 or 3 bdrm.
That's pretty compact 3 bedder!
This makes 8 courtyards look so cheap. :(
After all the hoo har over CM5, this developer is selling at high 800+ psf...
rattydrama
21-12-11, 21:20
not willing to cut the psf price so cut the size to maintain low quantum.
very sad indeed.
how is the sales?
not willing to cut the psf price so cut the size to maintain low quantum.
very sad indeed.
how is the sales?
still 50+ units sold? 300+ to go...
soon, every room will look and feel like the maid/store room.
Heard that the main launch will be in JAN 2012. Now is soft launch.
Should launch after CNY rather than before.
propertychap
22-12-11, 08:27
The Hillier is performing better than this. Maybe Far East marketing is better?
devilplate
22-12-11, 08:49
The Hillier is performing better than this. Maybe Far East marketing is better?
i prefer hillier den this too
This makes 8 courtyards look so cheap. :(
YOU ARE RIGHT! :D
devilplate
22-12-11, 11:16
YOU ARE RIGHT! :D
u got 2bdr at 750psf?
vy tough to lose $$$ indeed
u got 2bdr at 750psf?
vy tough to lose $$$ indeed
I got 3BR compact at high floor, so it's very close to S$800psf.
8cy still available but running out i think with the help of Nautical.
There are units available ranging from late S$7xx to early S$8xx psf.
Long term wise, 8cy nearer to the business plots and speculative MRT.
Having said that Nautical also not bad in terms of design and concept.
devilplate
22-12-11, 11:30
nautical.....china developer rite?
nautical.....china developer rite?
MCC Land, same developer as Canberra Residences as well as Canopy.
Is CBRE a good agent?..... If MCC want Nautical to fly, then got to appoint other agents as well i think.
I got 3BR compact at high floor, so it's very close to S$800psf.
8cy still available but running out i think with the help of Nautical.
There are units available ranging from late S$7xx to early S$8xx psf.
Long term wise, 8cy nearer to the business plots and speculative MRT.
Having said that Nautical also not bad in terms of design and concept.
Those tower C low floor compact 3 bedders above the shops were so cheap during the initial preview 990sqft/1001sqft around 720k only. Missed the boat. :(
Those tower C low floor compact 3 bedders above the shops were so cheap during the initial preview 990sqft/1001sqft around 720k only. Missed the boat. :(
8cy Tower C low floors will everyday see headlights bright lights into their house as it's near the main entrance driveway.
bargain hunter
23-12-11, 10:34
Some 50-plus units have been sold at The Nautical at an average price of about $860 per square foot since its preview began last weekend.
Over at Jalan Sendudok in Sembawang, Hao Yuan Investment, controlled by mainland China parties, is said to have issued options for about 50-plus units for The Nautical condo. The developer is understood to be deciding when to hold an official launch of the project, which will be accompanied by the start of an advertising campaign.
The average price of about $860 psf for the five-storey project, which will have 435 apartments, is after a 5 per cent early-bird discount.
Prices of a typical unit without private enclosed space or roof terrace will be in the $850-880 psf range on average.
The Nautical comprises one, two, three and four-bedroom units and penthouses (including 32 dual- key units). Absolute prices start from about $409,000 for a 420 sq ft one-bedder. The highest-priced unit, at slightly over $1.5 million, is a 1,916 sq ft penthouse.
Buyers of the 50-plus units are mostly HDB upgraders, comprising predominantly Singaporeans.
CBRE, GPS and PropNex are marketing agents for The Nautical.
The project's development is managed by MCC Land, a unit of Chinese state-owned enterprise Metallurgical Corporation of China or MCC Group. MCC Land is also the developer of Canberra Residences, which is next to The Nautical. The 320-unit Canberra Residences, which was released in January at an average price of around $830 psf, is about 90 per cent sold. Both condo projects are on 99-year sites and are five storeys high.
Some 50-plus units have been sold at The Nautical at an average price of about $860 per square foot since its preview began last weekend.
Over at Jalan Sendudok in Sembawang, Hao Yuan Investment, controlled by mainland China parties, is said to have issued options for about 50-plus units for The Nautical condo. The developer is understood to be deciding when to hold an official launch of the project, which will be accompanied by the start of an advertising campaign.
The average price of about $860 psf for the five-storey project, which will have 435 apartments, is after a 5 per cent early-bird discount.
Prices of a typical unit without private enclosed space or roof terrace will be in the $850-880 psf range on average.
The Nautical comprises one, two, three and four-bedroom units and penthouses (including 32 dual- key units). Absolute prices start from about $409,000 for a 420 sq ft one-bedder. The highest-priced unit, at slightly over $1.5 million, is a 1,916 sq ft penthouse.
Buyers of the 50-plus units are mostly HDB upgraders, comprising predominantly Singaporeans.
CBRE, GPS and PropNex are marketing agents for The Nautical.
The project's development is managed by MCC Land, a unit of Chinese state-owned enterprise Metallurgical Corporation of China or MCC Group. MCC Land is also the developer of Canberra Residences, which is next to The Nautical. The 320-unit Canberra Residences, which was released in January at an average price of around $830 psf, is about 90 per cent sold. Both condo projects are on 99-year sites and are five storeys high.
CR = avg S$830psf in Jan 2011
8cy = avg S$790psf in Apr 2011
Nautical = avg S$860psf in Dec 2011
While the rest of SG are recovering from their overshot levels, North probably will rise steadily in the six months down the road..... avg S$900psf, i.e. May 2012. In fact, Woodlands launches are already at S$900psf.
devilplate
23-12-11, 11:07
only 50+ units....
where r the homebuyers?
looks like only investors still buying....for eg. hillier
Their asking and for that size. Any rational home buyer also shouldn't be iinterested...
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