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http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=188452&DL=1059
good lobang but good luck if anything screws up...at least can open the hood and sit in carpark looking good....:D :scared-1: :)
devilplate
16-09-11, 11:41
http://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=188452&DL=1059
good lobang but good luck if anything screws up...at least can open the hood and sit in carpark looking good....:D :scared-1: :)
i like the old 1111
i like the old 1111
this another screwed up dealer just like agents last nite i saw his price 69k...today i refresh 75k...haizz all the same dealer agents analyst...:scared-4:
devilplate
16-09-11, 12:17
this another screwed up dealer just like agents last nite i saw his price 69k...today i refresh 75k...haizz all the same dealer agents analyst...:scared-4:
bro u looking to spend ur profit now?
heard tan chong motors clearing their YOM09 fairlady370z at 180k only! based on current COE, they r selling at a loss:D
buttercarp
16-09-11, 14:01
Wonder what is the lifespan of the COE?
Any feedback on old porsche?
Izit a high maintenance car?
Wonder what is the lifespan of the COE?
Any feedback on old porsche?
Izit a high maintenance car?
Simply.......yes.
I bought a 10-yr old one (944TurboS) and kept it for a few years. At $200 for a single radiator hose out of a specialist workshop (not even the dealer) this was only one thing.
A service was usually about $1000 and when it needed a new water pump, i needed ~$2000. A set of tyres would set you back about $1500-$2000 and with the age comes the time when most things begin to fail. Things like the water pump, fuel pump and almost anything made from rubber will begin to fail. You know, even a set of engine mounts are around $600?
In the end i sold it for something nearly new, Japanese, and much faster.
buttercarp
16-09-11, 15:09
Simply.......yes.
I bought a 10-yr old one (944TurboS) and kept it for a few years. At $200 for a single radiator hose out of a specialist workshop (not even the dealer) this was only one thing.
A service was usually about $1000 and when it needed a new water pump, i needed ~$2000. A set of tyres would set you back about $1500-$2000 and with the age comes the time when most things begin to fail. Things like the water pump, fuel pump and almost anything made from rubber will begin to fail. You know, even a set of engine mounts are around $600?
In the end i sold it for something nearly new, Japanese, and much faster.
Oh, thanks.
So the old cars are ho kwa boh ho jiak type.
In that case i better not consider it.
Regulators
16-09-11, 15:16
An old 944 looks ugly where got ho kwa? Even a nissan fairlady, a gtr or an rx8 looks so much nicer than that piece of junk
Oh, thanks.
So the old cars are ho kwa boh ho jiak type.
In that case i better not consider it.
Wonder what is the lifespan of the COE?
Any feedback on old porsche?
Izit a high maintenance car?
Depending on whether it was taken care off or not before. A well taken air-cooled 911 is a keeper and gem. The engine produces 1 of the nicest growl and learning to tame the tail requires great skill and courage....not for a family man or busy mum. I will avoid the 924, 944...as Porsche enthusiast do not consider them as `real' porsche and as such its a bit harder to sell it after you grow tired of it. An air-cooled 911 is highly sought after the world over....
In fact, niche car is never cheap to drive, even if the purchase cost is low, especially european cars. Basic economies of scale (parts, mechanic's knowledge) applies and thus owning/ driving a niche car is definitely not for the masses nor the poser. Coz after awhile, the wow factor will be gone (due to familarity or newer niche cars) and the owner will be counting the costs of maintaining it vs the feel good factor of driving a `branded' niche car...it just doesnt add up unless you are an enthusiast.
In short...dun bother. Even if you are rich, its less of a hassle to drive the newer poser cars than an old porsche.
Regulators
16-09-11, 16:16
If want to have the feel and sound of a boxer engine, just get an sti and change the exos to fujitsubo. The sound is music to the ears for lovers of exos sounds
Depending on whether it was taken care off or not before. A well taken air-cooled 911 is a keeper and gem. The engine produces 1 of the nicest growl and learning to tame the tail requires great skill and courage....not for a family man or busy mum. I will avoid the 924, 944...as Porsche enthusiast do not consider them as `real' porsche and as such its a bit harder to sell it after you grow tired of it. An air-cooled 911 is highly sought after the world over....
In fact, niche car is never cheap to drive, even if the purchase cost is low, especially european cars. Basic economies of scale (parts, mechanic's knowledge) applies and thus owning/ driving a niche car is definitely not for the masses nor the poser. Coz after awhile, the wow factor will be gone (due to familarity or newer niche cars) and the owner will be counting the costs of maintaining it vs the feel good factor of driving a `branded' niche car...it just doesnt add up unless you are an enthusiast.
In short...dun bother. Even if you are rich, its less of a hassle to drive the newer poser cars than an old porsche.
An old 944 looks ugly where got ho kwa? Even a nissan fairlady, a gtr or an rx8 looks so much nicer than that piece of junk
Each to their own. The GTR is nice enough I almost bought one, Fairlady not and the RX8 drinks too much oil for my taste.
The 944 Turbo was the only Porsche I ever liked though, yes, made by Audi. I tried a couple of 911 through the years but the seating position, sound and general feeling just turned me off - a VW Bettle with less seats and a higher price tag.
Old specialist European cars are great....... if you live in Europe! Parts are cheap and they're dead simple to fix.
911 is a 2+2 seater, same as Beetle. What are you talking about?
bro u looking to spend ur profit now?
heard tan chong motors clearing their YOM09 fairlady370z at 180k only! based on current COE, they r selling at a loss:D
Yeah the 2009 370Z were sitting in their warehouse for 2 years. You sure you want it? Engine oil become sludge and choked up in the engine liao loh.
Tha is assuming they were kept in the warehouse. Most likely on some rooftop car park somewhere in Tuas, exposed to acid rain and ferocious sun for the past 2 years.....
Simply.......yes.
I bought a 10-yr old one (944TurboS) and kept it for a few years. At $200 for a single radiator hose out of a specialist workshop (not even the dealer) this was only one thing.
A service was usually about $1000 and when it needed a new water pump, i needed ~$2000. A set of tyres would set you back about $1500-$2000 and with the age comes the time when most things begin to fail. Things like the water pump, fuel pump and almost anything made from rubber will begin to fail. You know, even a set of engine mounts are around $600?
In the end i sold it for something nearly new, Japanese, and much faster.
Service:$1000
Tyres $2000
Engine mount:$600
That sounds very much like the costs for any modern Audi, Mercedes Benz and BMW.
$600 engine mounts are standard for premium continental cars with 6 cylinders lah, especially when you got a V6 or horizontally opposed 6 cylinder engine with two cylinder banks.
In my opinion, not expensive at all for continental make, especially since this is a porsche.
Depending on whether it was taken care off or not before. A well taken air-cooled 911 is a keeper and gem. The engine produces 1 of the nicest growl and learning to tame the tail requires great skill and courage....not for a family man or busy mum. I will avoid the 924, 944...as Porsche enthusiast do not consider them as `real' porsche and as such its a bit harder to sell it after you grow tired of it. An air-cooled 911 is highly sought after the world over....
In fact, niche car is never cheap to drive, even if the purchase cost is low, especially european cars. Basic economies of scale (parts, mechanic's knowledge) applies and thus owning/ driving a niche car is definitely not for the masses nor the poser. Coz after awhile, the wow factor will be gone (due to familarity or newer niche cars) and the owner will be counting the costs of maintaining it vs the feel good factor of driving a `branded' niche car...it just doesnt add up unless you are an enthusiast.
In short...dun bother. Even if you are rich, its less of a hassle to drive the newer poser cars than an old porsche.
You are kidding. Air cooled porsches are death traps in 35 degree atmospheric temperature singapore!
An old 944 looks ugly where got ho kwa? Even a nissan fairlady, a gtr or an rx8 looks so much nicer than that piece of junk
I agree that a recent, used, fairlady, GTR or RX 8 would be more reliable.
Looks-wise though, is arguable.
For pussy pulling power, any Porsche, even an old 944, would bring you the fruits. More so than a Fairlady, GTR or RX8. Unless you like Malaysian ah lian factory workers.
Regulators
16-09-11, 21:08
Bro, how much do you know about the gtr? no way in a million years would an old bone shaking 944 outrun a brand new twin turbo nissan gtr.
By the way seeing this ugly butt makes me want to kick it anytime on the road
http://www.google.com.sg/m/search?q=944&pbx=1&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g5-k0d0t0&fkt=1560&fsdt=5462&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&site=images&gl=sg&source=mog&csll=&action=<oken=70b8fa9d3689f#i=127
I agree that a recent, used, fairlady, GTR or RX 8 would be more reliable.
Looks-wise though, is arguable.
For pussy pulling power, any Porsche, even an old 944, would bring you the fruits. More so than a Fairlady, GTR or RX8. Unless you like Malaysian ah lian factory workers.
None of these sports car can out run a cherry QQ in the daily peak hour jams of sg anyway haa haa.... :rolleyes:
Depending on whether it was taken care off or not before. A well taken air-cooled 911 is a keeper and gem. The engine produces 1 of the nicest growl and learning to tame the tail requires great skill and courage....not for a family man or busy mum. I will avoid the 924, 944...as Porsche enthusiast do not consider them as `real' porsche and as such its a bit harder to sell it after you grow tired of it. An air-cooled 911 is highly sought after the world over....
In fact, niche car is never cheap to drive, even if the purchase cost is low, especially european cars. Basic economies of scale (parts, mechanic's knowledge) applies and thus owning/ driving a niche car is definitely not for the masses nor the poser. Coz after awhile, the wow factor will be gone (due to familarity or newer niche cars) and the owner will be counting the costs of maintaining it vs the feel good factor of driving a `branded' niche car...it just doesnt add up unless you are an enthusiast.
In short...dun bother. Even if you are rich, its less of a hassle to drive the newer poser cars than an old porsche.
I will avoid the Boxsters too... no offence to Boxster owners/lovers
Bro, how much do you know about the gtr? no way in a million years would an old bone shaking 944 outrun a brand new twin turbo nissan gtr.
By the way seeing this ugly butt makes me want to kick it anytime on the road
http://www.google.com.sg/m/search?q=944&pbx=1&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g5-k0d0t0&fkt=1560&fsdt=5462&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&site=images&gl=sg&source=mog&csll=&action=<oken=70b8fa9d3689f#i=127
You were educated in the UK, were you?
Then you should know what "pulling" means.
Regulators
16-09-11, 21:42
Maybe a girl in her twenties in that era (old lady now) would still be attracted to a guy driving the old 944. :D
You were educated in the UK, were you?
Then you should know what "pulling" means.
devilplate
16-09-11, 22:58
I agree that a recent, used, fairlady, GTR or RX 8 would be more reliable.
Looks-wise though, is arguable.
For pussy pulling power, any Porsche, even an old 944, would bring you the fruits. More so than a Fairlady, GTR or RX8. Unless you like Malaysian ah lian factory workers.
Fairlady is reliable:) and i like NA cars and they r more reliable den turbo cars:D
Gtr:tsk-tsk: many gtr owners trying to let go after driving for few mths....not sure they solve the gearbox issue liao anot
Rx8 cmi....i tink century sprint 9sec:p
devilplate
16-09-11, 23:01
Yeah the 2009 370Z were sitting in their warehouse for 2 years. You sure you want it? Engine oil become sludge and choked up in the engine liao loh.
Tha is assuming they were kept in the warehouse. Most likely on some rooftop car park somewhere in Tuas, exposed to acid rain and ferocious sun for the past 2 years.....
Rain all tat small issue...and yes, engine sludge jialat...not sure whether they did compulsory 1yr oil change anot
Anyway not keen bcoz i find the butt resembles a fat old lady butt...hahaha
But hey, its one of the most value for money sports car out there...
Omv ard 50k somemore
Regulators
16-09-11, 23:19
This is what I call a value for money sports car, the Lotus Evoraaaaa!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RoauctGl-J4/SwY1TC0d38I/AAAAAAAAAbo/M7n4aKuM6pQ/s1600/Lotus%252BEvora%252B1.jpg
Rain all tat small issue...and yes, engine sludge jialat...not sure whether they did compulsory 1yr oil change anot
Anyway not keen bcoz i find the butt resembles a fat old lady butt...hahaha
But hey, its one of the most value for money sports car out there...
Omv ard 50k somemore
devilplate
16-09-11, 23:26
This is what I call a value for money sports car, the Lotus Evoraaaaa!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RoauctGl-J4/SwY1TC0d38I/AAAAAAAAAbo/M7n4aKuM6pQ/s1600/Lotus%252BEvora%252B1.jpg
U sure anot?
278k w/o coe wor....And 276bhp only:p
370z bigger v6 somemore and cost nearly half the px
Anyway lotus :tsk-tsk: ....too feather lightweight liao.....travel high speed vy dangerous...i tink can float....lol
buttercarp
16-09-11, 23:35
Anyway lotus :tsk-tsk: ....too feather lightweight liao.....travel high speed vy dangerous...i tink can float....lol
Also very low.... can go under lorry?
You are kidding. Air cooled porsches are death traps in 35 degree atmospheric temperature singapore!
That's why it's rare here and highly sought after within the Porsche community here in Sg and Malaysia. Any case, I'm just replying to buttercarp in relation to owing an old Porsche.....if want to own an old Porsche, just go for the air-cooled 911. The rest would be a waste of time coz if
1) one is serious about old Porsche, they will eventually wants to go for the spirit of Porsche.
2) one is just a poser....will eventually find that an old Porsche, or for that matter, most old European vintage sports cars is nothing special and a hassle to own.
Most of the air cooled Porsche arent really meant for daily ride, as you rightly pointed out the < 30km/h traffic will kill the engine. Usually it's taken out during weekends early morning across the causeway to clear some carbon...fun.
And since Regulator mentioned boxer (hope he didn't mixed up with boxster), I think the most memorable boxer engine is the Alfa in-line 4 in the 33 or better 75 with rwd....
And howgoitz, yeah, I know what u mean about the boxster....while it was a good intro for me, it just felt incomplete....and the answer is in the GT2.....unfortunately for me, CFO wanted a more SUV and family friendly Porsche.
devilplate
16-09-11, 23:42
Also very low.... can go under lorry?
Everytime hit humps lor....whahaha
Ferrari, lambo all tat r just for collection and to show off:D .....not suitable for sg road conditions
devilplate
16-09-11, 23:46
That's why it's rare here and highly sought after within the Porsche community here in Sg and Malaysia. Any case, I'm just replying to buttercarp in relation to owing an old Porsche.....if want to own an old Porsche, just go for the air-cooled 911. The rest would be a waste of time coz if
1) one is serious about old Porsche, they will eventually wants to go for the spirit of Porsche.
2) one is just a poser....will eventually find that an old Porsche, or for that matter, most old European vintage sports cars is nothing special and a hassle to own.
Most of the air cooled Porsche arent really meant for daily ride, as you rightly pointed out the < 30km/h traffic will kill the engine. Usually it's taken out during weekends early morning across the causeway to clear some carbon...fun.
And since Regulator mentioned boxer (hope he didn't mixed up with boxster), I think the most memorable boxer engine is the Alfa in-line 4 in the 33 or better 75 with rwd....
And howgoitz, yeah, I know what u mean about the boxster....while it was a good intro for me, it just felt incomplete....and the answer is in the GT2.....unfortunately for me, CFO wanted a more SUV and family friendly Porsche.
Wow vy chim.....personally i like v8 engines....
2nd hand s5 got one of the most value for money v8:D but sadly road tax unfrenly
Regulators
16-09-11, 23:47
Lotus engineering emphasises on power to weight ratio and handling. An exige can outrun a porsche in a circuit. The reason why I chose evora is becoz interior offers a bit more creature comfort.
U sure anot?
278k w/o coe wor....And 276bhp only:p
370z bigger v6 somemore and cost nearly half the px
Anyway lotus :tsk-tsk: ....too feather lightweight liao.....travel high speed vy dangerous...i tink can float....lol
devilplate
16-09-11, 23:49
Lotus engineering emphasises on power to weight ratio and handling. An exige can outrun a porsche in a circuit. The reason why I chose evora is becoz interior offers a bit more creature comfort.
Icic....
Actually lotus considered same league as porsche?
Btw jus realised evora almost weigh 1.4ton....heavy enuff:D
Regulators
16-09-11, 23:55
depends what you mean by league, if you referring to branding, of course a porsche is better, but in terms of track, lotus anytime (with exception of higher end 911)
Icic....
Actually lotus considered same league as porsche?
Regulators
17-09-11, 00:04
You might be interested in this Evora vs 911 showdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unQr42h0HBA
Icic....
Actually lotus considered same league as porsche?
Btw jus realised evora almost weigh 1.4ton....heavy enuff:D
Regulators
17-09-11, 00:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W05HBO7rkHY
devilplate
17-09-11, 00:12
You might be interested in this Evora vs 911 showdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unQr42h0HBA
Eurosports nvr bring in evora s!
Excellent track car:spliff:
devilplate
17-09-11, 00:17
Sidetrack abit.....i find the new LR evoque chio chio!:D
bro u looking to spend ur profit now?
heard tan chong motors clearing their YOM09 fairlady370z at 180k only! based on current COE, they r selling at a loss:D
no la bro i happy with my wrx....:)
Simply.......yes.
I bought a 10-yr old one (944TurboS) and kept it for a few years. At $200 for a single radiator hose out of a specialist workshop (not even the dealer) this was only one thing.
A service was usually about $1000 and when it needed a new water pump, i needed ~$2000. A set of tyres would set you back about $1500-$2000 and with the age comes the time when most things begin to fail. Things like the water pump, fuel pump and almost anything made from rubber will begin to fail. You know, even a set of engine mounts are around $600?
In the end i sold it for something nearly new, Japanese, and much faster.
tks for the heads up next time i see an old porsche on the road i will smile at the driver....:)
None of these sports car can out run a cherry QQ in the daily peak hour jams of sg anyway haa haa.... :rolleyes:
ur wrong in traffic jams the mat that delivers macdonalds is the fastest....:D
devilplate
17-09-11, 00:43
tks for the heads up next time i see an old porsche on the road i will smile at the driver....:)
Actualy to b fair only the servicing at 1k abit ex....but if its a major servicing den 1k still ok bah
Tyres....i just spent 2k on new set of 19inch csc5p lor..:ashamed1:
If wana save on tyre, change to 15inch rims la...:p :D
devilplate
17-09-11, 00:45
ur wrong in traffic jams the mat that delivers macdonalds is the fastest....:D
Ride bicycle also faster...haha:D
Fairlady is reliable:) and i like NA cars and they r more reliable den turbo cars:D
Gtr:tsk-tsk: many gtr owners trying to let go after driving for few mths....not sure they solve the gearbox issue liao anot
Rx8 cmi....i tink century sprint 9sec:p
i cant agree more NA ruleeezzzz....my previous ride was a kick ass honda civic Sir....that was hell of a ride....chasing and breathing down the backs of mark x ...lexus...bmw etc...all in a 12 year old chasis amazing....:D
Fairlady is reliable:) and i like NA cars and they r more reliable den turbo cars:D
Gtr:tsk-tsk: many gtr owners trying to let go after driving for few mths....not sure they solve the gearbox issue liao anot
Rx8 cmi....i tink century sprint 9sec:p
i cant agree more NA ruleeezzzz....my previous ride was a kick ass honda civic Sir....that was hell of a ride....chasing and breathing down the backs of mark x ...lexus...bmw etc...all in a 12 year old chasis amazing....:D
Also very low.... can go under lorry?
go under ok as long as dont UP the lorrry....:D:D:D
Actualy to b fair only the servicing at 1k abit ex....but if its a major servicing den 1k still ok bah
Tyres....i just spent 2k on new set of 19inch csc5p lor..:ashamed1:
If wana save on tyre, change to 15inch rims la...:p :D
bro ur 19 inch.....csc5p sounds like a login password to me....:D:D:D
Regulators
17-09-11, 00:55
I prefer the hawkeye to the latest hatchbacks. the latest four exos sedan not exported out of japan yet, very nice car
no la bro i happy with my wrx....:)
devilplate
17-09-11, 00:58
No offend, i find civic r, rex n evo too bengish....and their ride too harsh....
I sit in all the 3cars b4....feel vy giddy...lol:o
No offend, i find civic r, rex n evo too bengish....and their ride too harsh....
I sit in all the 3cars b4....feel vy giddy...lol:o
i totally agree with u but when $$$ no enough and u want to go loud and fast u got to go down the dark side....cibic rex and evo ruleeezzzz....ha ha i know what u mean my wife used to hate my bright red sir with gold rims she called it d ang pow car...:scared-4:...but it was fun and i have moved on and hey cos she hates it when i drive fast i bought a wrx....but i chose the one without turbo and has a 1.6 motor....ha ha ha...big fat and friendly impreza...:doh:.....yup mine is the hawk eye white one most people go slow when i follow them cos look like police car...:scared-1:
devilplate
17-09-11, 01:10
i totally agree with u but when $$$ no enough and u want to go loud and fast u got to go down the dark side....cibic rex and evo ruleeezzzz....ha ha i know what u mean my wife used to hate my bright red sir with gold rims she called it d ang pow car...:scared-4:...but it was fun and i have moved on and hey cos she hates it when i drive fast i bought a wrx....but i chose the one without turbo and has a 1.6 motor....ha ha ha...big fat and friendly impreza...:doh:.....yup mine is the hawk eye white one most people go slow when i follow them cos look like police car...:scared-1:
Haha....tot u driving a rex 2.5 l tune up turbo lor....hehe
Ya la....wifey definitely cannot tahan torquey cars....hehe.....
Aiya, get a preowned 325 la! Smooth and creamy inline 6 wif decent pick up and cfm no giddy:spliff:
Nxt yr bmw 3series going to the dark side liao lor.....gg to replace wif 4cyc turbo engine:( :doh:
Regulators
17-09-11, 10:15
If talking about bmw, the only performance they have comes from the m series ie. M3 or M5, other than that, even the normal seven series will find it hard to beat a rex or evo.
Haha....tot u driving a rex 2.5 l tune up turbo lor....hehe
Ya la....wifey definitely cannot tahan torquey cars....hehe.....
Aiya, get a preowned 325 la! Smooth and creamy inline 6 wif decent pick up and cfm no giddy:spliff:
Nxt yr bmw 3series going to the dark side liao lor.....gg to replace wif 4cyc turbo engine:( :doh:
If talking about bmw, the only performance they have comes from the m series ie. M3 or M5, other than that, even the normal seven series will find it hard to beat a rex or evo.
Aiyah... 7series meant to drive in comfort lah, I wouldn't be racing with a rex or evo... :)
Regulators
17-09-11, 10:57
I was talking performance, if want comfort, don't need to waste money buying a bmw our bentley, a toyota estima good enough. By the way the entry level bmw's interior really sucks, so plasticky
Aiyah... 7series meant to drive in comfort lah, I wouldn't be racing with a rex or evo... :)
devilplate
17-09-11, 11:01
If talking about bmw, the only performance they have comes from the m series ie. M3 or M5, other than that, even the normal seven series will find it hard to beat a rex or evo.
M3 always been the top benchmark.....nrly 400k....px also top top:D
Fully modded rex can smoke m3 on track too....hehe
But seriously we dun need such high performance car in sg unless u always go sepang track
devilplate
17-09-11, 11:04
I was talking performance, if want comfort, don't need to waste money buying a bmw our bentley, a toyota estima good enough. By the way the entry level bmw's interior really sucks, so plasticky
Ppl buy bmw for handling and to tackle corner wif ease mah...,hehe
lexus best for comfort leh...Vy sedate drive but steering wheel no feeling hor...lol
I was talking performance, if want comfort, don't need to waste money buying a bmw our bentley, a toyota estima good enough. By the way the entry level bmw's interior really sucks, so plasticky
Agree... BMW 1 series cannot make it, not value for money.
but the 7series drives much better than an Estima leh.... Estima is too big and handles like a van rather than a car.
devilplate
17-09-11, 11:10
I just recommended a fren to get 2nd hand lexus gs300.....coming to 5yo and depreciation only 11k+:cheers6:
Vy comfy and damn quiet cabin.....tot engine nvr on! Haha
But the steering wheel super light like any other toyota....hehe
Regulators
17-09-11, 11:15
Bro, you should try driving the latest and more powetful version of the estima, it can give wrx a good run even though it can't beat a rex, it has both comfort and power. Bmw 1 series not as jialat as those driving merc 170. That one really waste of money
Agree... BMW 1 series cannot make it, not value for money.
but the 7series drives much better than an Estima leh.... Estima is too big and handles like a van rather than a car.
I just recommended a fren to get 2nd hand lexus gs300.....coming to 5yo and depreciation only 11k+:cheers6:
Vy comfy and damn quiet cabin.....tot engine nvr on! Haha
But the steering wheel super light like any other toyota....hehe
Agree about the steering of Lexus, not much road feel. the BMW's drive is a little bit more edgy. the BMW equivalent of the Lexus GS300 I guess would be the 525.
The only complain I have about the 7series is the stick shift on the control wheel, feels like a lorry when putting in gear. The other irritating thing is the electronic park brake. If you set the park brake before the transmission is set to P, the car may lurch forward a little when the engine is shutdown.
But when it drives...swee... sits very well in in tight turns.:)
devilplate
17-09-11, 11:27
Bro, you should try driving the latest and more powetful version of the estima, it can give wrx a good run even though it can't beat a rex, it has both comfort and power. Bmw 1 series not as jialat as those driving merc 170. That one really waste of money
For merc, minimally c200
For bmw, min 323...buy 2nd hand can tune up:D
Audi....hmmm....any 2l tsi will do wif quattro
Lexus entry is250 ok but nid to get the luxury model
Get alphard la! Whahaha
Bro, you should try driving the latest and more powetful version of the estima, it can give wrx a good run even though it can't beat a rex, it has both comfort and power. Bmw 1 series not as jialat as those driving merc 170. That one really waste of money
Hmmm... never thought of Estima in that way before... time to head to the showroom for a reassessment of the Estima...:)
devilplate
17-09-11, 11:37
Hmmm... never thought of Estima in that way before... time to head to the showroom for a reassessment of the Estima...:)
U nid to test the 3.5l version:)
Personally prefer alphard but cannot go in hdb mscp....not advisable even u lower down suspension becoz simply too tight to move around...:D
Regulators
17-09-11, 11:42
Alphard is like a van, estima is still acceptable. My wife once asked me about alphard..."why can commercial vehicles be registered under passenger car licence plate?"
For merc, minimally c200
For bmw, min 323...buy 2nd hand can tune up:D
Audi....hmmm....any 2l tsi will do wif quattro
Lexus entry is250 ok but nid to get the luxury model
Get alphard la! Whahaha
Alphard is like a van, estima is still acceptable. My wife once asked me about alphard..."why can commercial vehicles be registered under passenger car licence plate?"
Tell your wife the latest commercial vehicle to be registered as a S plate is the Mercedes Viano....the same 1 as what Comfort is using as Maxi-cab. Recently I saw a black 3.0V6 CDi at the MB Centre, that will be 1 ride for the family and might surprise the Rexes & EVos at the lights. Torque is bloody 440 NM! Plus its rwd, with lowered sports suspension & 19in badass rims. I'm now surfing the web on what mod options are available.
For those who is willing to blow $6k on road tax pa (!!), needs loads of space to fetch your family and bikes, should take a look. Nowadays I always have to lift my bikes unto the roof, but with this beast, can just shove it to the back without having to spend 30 mins prep the bikes for transportation.
Come to think of it, I remember there was 1 track day I attended where a mod Vito was chasing a Golf GTI at Sepang, all of us had a great laugh but also respect for these Euro Vans. They r true sleeper and great utility vehicle....
Regulators
17-09-11, 12:54
Vito is a big box on the road, quite comical seeing it trying to do high speed manoeuvres.
Tell your wife the latest commercial vehicle to be registered as a S plate is the Mercedes Viano....the same 1 as what Comfort is using as Maxi-cab. Recently I saw a black 3.0V6 CDi at the MB Centre, that will be 1 ride for the family and might surprise the Rexes & EVos at the lights. Torque is bloody 440 NM! Plus its rwd, with lowered sports suspension & 19in badass rims. I'm now surfing the web on what mod options are available.
For those who is willing to blow $6k on road tax pa (!!), needs loads of space to fetch your family and bikes, should take a look. Nowadays I always have to lift my bikes unto the roof, but with this beast, can just shove it to the back without having to spend 30 mins prep the bikes for transportation.
Come to think of it, I remember there was 1 track day I attended where a mod Vito was chasing a Golf GTI at Sepang, all of us had a great laugh but also respect for these Euro Vans. They r true sleeper and great utility vehicle....
wow all throwing in big name cars....OK i am going to set a BASELINE in property investment cum car ownership....I HEREBY declare that one should ONLY spend 20% of his/her property profits on a car....:D:D:D
i.e u make 1million profit u spend 200k on car u make 300k u spend 60k make 500k spend 100k.....:D:D
ok so now who wants to buy an M3....:scared-1::D:doh:
buttercarp
17-09-11, 16:09
wow all throwing in big name cars....OK i am going to set a BASELINE in property investment cum car ownership....I HEREBY declare that one should ONLY spend 20% of his/her property profits on a car....:D:D:D
i.e u make 1million profit u spend 200k on car u make 300k u spend 60k make 500k spend 100k.....:D:D
ok so now who wants to buy an M3....:scared-1::D:doh:
I am more frugal than you when it comes to cars.
make 1 million profit spend 100k on car, ie only 10%.
But my kids say when we shift to new place, must have nice car, cos got nice house, daddy must have nice car mah.
So I am trying to convince my hubby to get a nice car, but at this rate i am planning, we got to buy 2nd hand car liao. But me don't really like 2nd hand things......
I am more frugal than you when it comes to cars.
make 1 million profit spend 100k on car, ie only 10%.
But my kids say when we shift to new place, must have nice car, cos got nice house, daddy must have nice car mah.
So I am trying to convince my hubby to get a nice car, but at this rate i am planning, we got to buy 2nd hand car liao. But me don't really like 2nd hand things......
But some pre-owned continental car, even those 5-6 yrs old.. surprisingly some looks like brand new or even looks like few mths old car.. condition damn good:cool:
I am more frugal than you when it comes to cars.
make 1 million profit spend 100k on car, ie only 10%.
But my kids say when we shift to new place, must have nice car, cos got nice house, daddy must have nice car mah.
So I am trying to convince my hubby to get a nice car, but at this rate i am planning, we got to buy 2nd hand car liao. But me don't really like 2nd hand things......
Hmmmm.... buy car to match house...
buttercarp
17-09-11, 16:35
But some pre-owned continental car, even those 5-6 yrs old.. surprisingly some looks like brand new or even looks like few mths old car.. condition damn good:cool:
Yup agree with you.
Especially those under utilized tai tai cars.
Will consider getting one of these later when COE of present car expires.
I am more frugal than you when it comes to cars.
make 1 million profit spend 100k on car, ie only 10%.
But my kids say when we shift to new place, must have nice car, cos got nice house, daddy must have nice car mah.
So I am trying to convince my hubby to get a nice car, but at this rate i am planning, we got to buy 2nd hand car liao. But me don't really like 2nd hand things......
Look like u r upgrading your total life$tyle...
buttercarp
17-09-11, 16:37
Hmmmm.... buy car to match house...
Ya lor.....
Matching things are pleasing to the eye.
Hmmmm.... buy car to match house...
Not really.. buy landed.. then no $$.. so no choice buy Chery QQ..
or
Buy HDB.. still have lots of balance $$.. so buy a Merc S-class..
so
Totally can't match at all..:D
buttercarp
17-09-11, 16:45
Look like u r upgrading your total life$tyle...
Not really, still living within my means.
Price of 2nd hand continental car may be more or less equal to brand new Japanese car. COE of present car expiring when new place TOP, so no choice but to buy one at that time. Will still keep the 2nd car cos still got a few more years to go.
buttercarp
17-09-11, 16:49
Not really.. buy landed.. then no $$.. so no choice buy Chery QQ..
or
Buy HDB.. still have lots of balance $$.. so buy a Merc S-class..
so
Cannot totally match at all..:D
Got a friend never upgrade and is still staying in his 5 room HDB flat for the past 13 years.
But buy expensive cars every 3 years.
Now driving brand new BMW 520i. Park downstairs in un covered car park.
Wife can't understand him.
Some more wife got driving licence but don't dare drive, take public transport.
I told his wife that she should just take his BMW out for a spin.
Afterall she also got share in it.
Got a friend never upgrade and is still staying in his 5 room HDB flat for the past 13 years.
But buy expensive cars every 3 years.
Now driving brand new BMW 520i. Park downstairs in un covered car park.
Wife can't understand him.
Some more wife got driving licence but don't dare drive, take public transport.
I told his wife that she should just take his BMW out for a spin.
Afterall she also got share in it.
ha ha i am more fair i drive subaru impreza buy my wife honda jazz....for practical reasons nothing beats 2 workhorse cars....compared to 1 more upmarket car like a beemer or a lexus....:D
buttercarp
17-09-11, 23:13
ha ha i am more fair i drive subaru impreza buy my wife honda jazz....for practical reasons nothing beats 2 workhorse cars....compared to 1 more upmarket car like a beemer or a lexus....:D
You are practical.
That's a good combination.
Subaru impreza - a guy's car
Honda jazz - a lady's car.
My combination is almost similar.
You are practical.
That's a good combination.
Subaru impreza - a guy's car
Honda jazz - a lady's car.
My combination is almost similar.
yup in my household equality of sexes ruleeezzzzz:doh::doh::doh:
wow all throwing in big name cars....OK i am going to set a BASELINE in property investment cum car ownership....I HEREBY declare that one should ONLY spend 20% of his/her property profits on a car....:D:D:D
i.e u make 1million profit u spend 200k on car u make 300k u spend 60k make 500k spend 100k.....:D:D
ok so now who wants to buy an M3....:scared-1::D:doh:
spend 20% on a car? that's too much. :(
a big no no for me.
People here are quite well off with more than 1 car. :)
buttercarp
18-09-11, 14:34
yup in my household equality of sexes ruleeezzzzz:doh::doh::doh:
But you said you bought the car for your wife.... doesn't that make her the fairer sex?
But you said you bought the car for your wife.... doesn't that make her the fairer sex?
yup car is under my name but she pays the installments....:D
spend 20% on a car? that's too much. :(
a big no no for me.
sorry thats for me cos i like cars...:D
People here are quite well off with more than 1 car. :)2 cars or 1 car depends on various situations. Do not be too impressed. 2 cars does not mean well off.
Consider the following:
1. Not enough money so loan big time for 2 cars just to look cool to neighbors.
2. Enough money but don't see the need for 2 cars so just drive one.
3. Spouse can't drive so just have 1 car, whether have money or not is not important. My friend has 3 cars but only 2 drivers at home. Another friend has 5 cars but also 2 drivers so got 2 chauffeurs to drive the other cars. LOL! Rich people!!!
There are many other reasons to consider. :D
devilplate
18-09-11, 22:44
Make lots of diff for someone who drives a new or 9yo car with or without loan
buttercarp
18-09-11, 23:24
yup car is under my name but she pays the installments....:D
OMG.... you bad boy!
How could you do that?
Why can't be under her name?
What equality of sexes.....this is exploitation!
OMG.... you bad boy!
How could you do that?
Why can't be under her name?
What equality of sexes.....this is exploitation!
Actually I would have thought that for insurance purposes it would be better to put the 2nd car under your wife's name so that she can build up her NCD.
OMG.... you bad boy!
How could you do that?
Why can't be under her name?
What equality of sexes.....this is exploitation!Consider the following reasons.
1. The wife just bwang the car the year earlier so her name when buying the car then would incur loading penalty so just go for husband's name.
2. The husband maybe already got full NCD while the wife has 0% so just go with husband's name to maximize benefits.
3. The wife does not have a license... :scared-3:
Anything goes! :cheers1:
Have only one car and a small one too. Car to me is a liability unless it helps to generate income. My spouse said, "Why buy big car? Small car can still bring you from Point A to Point B. Put $ in places that can generate $ and drain-off. "
Make lots of diff for someone who drives a new or 9yo car with or without loan
devilplate
19-09-11, 09:08
Have only one car and a small one too. Car to me is a liability unless it helps to generate income. My spouse said, "Why buy big car? Small car can still bring you from Point A to Point B. Put $ in places that can generate $ and drain-off. "
Now small car r worse....coe cost more den car px:rolleyes:
My small car still got quite a number of years to go. Will take Volvo, Mercedes, etc, depending on the route after it COE lapses unless there is some correction in the COE. My place is near town with 3 mrt lines and near bus-stops. So, no problem. :)
Now small car r worse....coe cost more den car px:rolleyes:
Consider the following reasons.
1. The wife just bwang the car the year earlier so her name when buying the car then would incur loading penalty so just go for husband's name.
2. The husband maybe already got full NCD while the wife has 0% so just go with husband's name to maximize benefits.
3. The wife does not have a license... :scared-3:
Anything goes! :cheers1:
If the husband have always had only one car, I think the husband's NCD cannot be transferred on 2nd cars like this... for a 2nd car if using the same name you need to build up your NCD from scratch.
Insurance companies plugged this loophole some years ago.
buttercarp
19-09-11, 10:12
If wife drives husband car, it is wise to include her name in the car insurance.
devilplate
19-09-11, 10:14
If wife drives husband car, it is wise to include her name in the car insurance.
it covers for any authorised drivers wif valid licence unless u buy those 3rd party insurance
If the husband have always had only one car, I think the husband's NCD cannot be transferred on 2nd cars like this... for a 2nd car if using the same name you need to build up your NCD from scratch.
Insurance companies plugged this loophole some years ago.Is that so? I used to have two cars under my name and got the same NCD. But that was many years back though! Wow! Thx for the information. :o
buttercarp
19-09-11, 11:24
it covers for any authorised drivers wif valid licence unless u buy those 3rd party insurance
I thought for car insurance, we should buy 3rd party insurance?
I thought for car insurance, we should buy 3rd party insurance?3rd party insurance will be cheaper but may have problem when you really need to claim. May not be successful!
buttercarp
19-09-11, 12:22
3rd party insurance will be cheaper but may have problem when you really need to claim. May not be successful!
If no 3rd party insurance, damage other people's car or property, or passenger injured then who pay?
If no 3rd party insurance, damage other people's car or property, or passenger injured then who pay?
Third party insurance or usually Third Party Fire and Theft (TPFT) is one of the most basic insurance. It covers the damage you cause to others but not to yourself.
That is why many insurance companies only offer TPFT to sports cars as the repairs can be astronomical. If you crash your 3/4million dollar Ferrari beyond economical repair, you have to write it off. I think this happened recently to one of the two SLA embezzlers. The other SLA embezzler, a director was driving a Lamborghini.
If you want comprehensive cover for such cars, be prepared to pay the sky...
Is that so? I used to have two cars under my name and got the same NCD. But that was many years back though! Wow! Thx for the information. :o
Yes, I do recall a time when it was possible but nowadays they consider it as circumventing the risks and plugged it. I think it is just another reason to make more money out of drivers
Better to put the cheaper car in the name of the lower NCD driver for better savings and build up the NCD.
OMG.... you bad boy!
How could you do that?
Why can't be under her name?
What equality of sexes.....this is exploitation!
cos her car used to be my car and one day i saw another car and decided to buy that car and i gave her the keys to my old car and we lived happily ever after....:D....until a saw a porsche....then i started this thread...:D:D:D...so who what when how did anybody say...CAR:scared-4:
devilplate
19-10-11, 19:50
Coe shoots up! Where got recession? Cat b 75889!:scared-1:
How to change new car!:(
New 3series not bad leh....328 century sprint 5.9sec! Coe pls drop next yr! Lol
Even getting a Jap 2L car is half the price of a BTO, LH 10 vs LH99. haha
omg....
http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/writeup.php?AID=70
Coe shoots up! Where got recession? Cat b 75889!:scared-1:
How to change new car!:(
New 3series not bad leh....328 century sprint 5.9sec! Coe pls drop next yr! Lol
New BMW 6 series launching tomorrow at the Grand Ballroom at Capella in Sentosa. From the invitation card it looks like a swanky affair, dress code says "sleek chic", I don't even know what that means. PML sure knows how to throw a good party. Wife already warned me not to go for launch otherwise my backside may get itchy.
During the last 5series launch, pre-orders were backlogged up to 6months, for the 7series the wait was shorter. With launches like these, its gonna be hard for COE prices to come down. The luxury car segment distorts the market.
devilplate
20-10-11, 10:27
New BMW 6 series launching tomorrow at the Grand Ballroom at Capella in Sentosa. From the invitation card it looks like a swanky affair, dress code says "sleek chic", I don't even know what that means. PML sure knows how to throw a good party. Wife already warned me not to go for launch otherwise my backside may get itchy.
During the last 5series launch, pre-orders were backlogged up to 6months, for the 7series the wait was shorter. With launches like these, its gonna be hard for COE prices to come down. The luxury car segment distorts the market.
the new 6series looks weird to me
5series 6mths wait? wah...i tot only VW got such long delivery time....LOL
den new 3series gona backlog 12mths or longer liao lor....:scared-4:
the new 6series looks weird to me
5series 6mths wait? wah...i tot only VW got such long delivery time....LOL
den new 3series gona backlog 12mths or longer liao lor....:scared-4:
What's gonna happen is the PML agents will start to call you(ex-clients) when they get wind of the arrival and they will take orders even before the launch. By launch time, there is already a backlog. So COE may just stay at such levels for a while more (maybe even higher?)
Agents in C&C and PML...etc. have the easiest jobs. The cars sell themselves without their salesmanship, people buy even before they see the actual car not to mention without nary a test drive. Repeat clients for such cars are highly probable. Its easy money for agents for such cars.
Car owners are allowed to transfer the NCD from their existing car to any of the cars that they own. However, once you have transferred the NCD, the existing car will have 0% NCD and you will need to start accumulating it. In the event you sell away the second car, that NCD will expire in 1 year if it is not transferred to a replacement car.
If the husband have always had only one car, I think the husband's NCD cannot be transferred on 2nd cars like this... for a 2nd car if using the same name you need to build up your NCD from scratch.
Insurance companies plugged this loophole some years ago.
Car owners are allowed to transfer the NCD from their existing car to any of the cars that they own. However, once you have transferred the NCD, the existing car will have 0% NCD and you will need to start accumulating it. In the event you sell away the second car, that NCD will expire in 1 year if it is not transferred to a replacement car.
Yep that's correct..... that's why I said the NCD cannot be transferred to the second car like "this", "this" meaning using the same NCD as the first car, it needs to be built up.
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