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Worsty
02-09-11, 15:33
The interest rates can go up fast in India. Those who borrow heavily will find themselves caught with heavy loans, and new buyers will be deterred.

In Singapore, the rates are almost guaranteed to be low and stable for the next 2 years, and probably for a few more years thereafther if the US economy doesn't recover. If US economy recovers, Singapore economy and property prices will also rebound and it will be time to sell for capital gain.

My Indian colleagues are not investing more properties in India, but instead bought some in Singapore and other Asia countries.

Ah, if you put it in that context...basically, you're saying, present India's rates are high, but have the possibility to go up even higher more so than the rise in Singapore's interest rate even when there's room to go up.

hyenergix
02-09-11, 15:39
Ah, if you put it in that context...basically, you're saying, present India's rates are high, but have the possibility to go up even higher more so than the rise in Singapore's interest rate even when there's room to go up.

Indian central bank is not afraid to raise interest rate to counter inflation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14287444

mygeemeel
02-09-11, 17:59
I asked my indian friends and they told me their interest rate is 8%. yes, it is high buy you can buy a decent size guarded condo with relatively low price. In the region of S$400k (depends on which location/state).

In thinking if I have cash, isn't good to buy a unit there with ever increasing population without taking up loan? Of cos I don't have so much cash and have other worries too. So I am still look see look see.

Tripp
02-09-11, 20:34
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 02 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 02 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(01Sep2011)_2sep.pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (10 left; 10 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (10 left; 10 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (1 left; 19 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (1 left; 19 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (9 left; 21 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (10 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (16 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (14 left; 16 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 23 units
Total Townhouses presumed sold:
Units 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 304 (Total: 20 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 300, 302 (Total: 3 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed launched: 538
Total units presumed sold: 445 (out of 748; 59.5% sold)

hyenergix
02-09-11, 20:54
I asked my indian friends and they told me their interest rate is 8%. yes, it is high buy you can buy a decent size guarded condo with relatively low price. In the region of S$400k (depends on which location/state).

In thinking if I have cash, isn't good to buy a unit there with ever increasing population without taking up loan? Of cos I don't have so much cash and have other worries too. So I am still look see look see.

Some bought HDB, some bought condos, mainly w e intention of bringing up their children in local n international schools here. Avoiding rent in e process n earning capital gain.

DC33_2008
02-09-11, 22:33
Not worth it given the social gap in India is so wide.
I asked my indian friends and they told me their interest rate is 8%. yes, it is high buy you can buy a decent size guarded condo with relatively low price. In the region of S$400k (depends on which location/state).

In thinking if I have cash, isn't good to buy a unit there with ever increasing population without taking up loan? Of cos I don't have so much cash and have other worries too. So I am still look see look see.

solsys
02-09-11, 23:11
Some updates:

1. Over the last 2 weekends in August, FEO launched a sales campaign for its EuHabitat property in Beijing, Shanghai, Hangzhou & Shenzhen.

2. Due to very good response from its China buyers, FEO will be conducting another sales campaign wave in the first 3 weekends of September, again in the 4 cities together with Chengdu, Guangzhou, Tianjin.

3. FEO will be conducting a Property Tour (22 - 24 Sep) for interested Chinese buyers to check out Singapore and FEO's stable of properties. The properties include (but not limited to): EuHabitat, Orchard Scotts, Silversea, Waterfront Isle, Cyan, Floridian etc.

Source:
http://www.fareast.com.sg/chnsc/index.aspx?page=events
http://www.fareast.com.sg/chnsc/index.aspx?page=property-tour

Bachelors should stay there coz when these Chinese buyers send their daughters to study in Singapore..... then have a good chance to be their son-in-law!

ysyap
02-09-11, 23:40
Bachelors should stay there coz when these Chinese buyers send their daughters to study in Singapore..... then have a good chance to be their son-in-law!Unmarried ladies can also stay there should these rich guys send their sons to study in S'pore too! :spliff:

ecimbew
02-09-11, 23:58
From what I understand, they still prefer their own kind.

GSLJ
03-09-11, 13:21
I signed from bank of china. 3m SOR.My loan is with UOB.

0.75% + SOR for first 4 years.

Loan starts only upon first disbursement. :)

GSLJ
03-09-11, 13:26
Anyone knows if the units come with their own rubbish chutes, or will the development comes with common rubbish chutes?

The floorplans (of all unit types) did not indicate the rubbish chute locations, and the common areas.

Also, note that there are 25 lifts in the development; meaning ONE lift for each Tower.Was told by agent that will not have own but common rubbish chutes.

Guess one lift pretty ok as level 1 and 2 units may not use it much. So mostly used by level 3-5 units for around 24 units. :)

GSLJ
03-09-11, 13:28
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 02 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 02 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(01Sep2011)_2sep.pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (10 left; 10 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (10 left; 10 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (1 left; 19 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (1 left; 19 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (9 left; 21 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (10 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (16 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (14 left; 16 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 23 units
Total Townhouses presumed sold:
Units 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 304 (Total: 20 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 300, 302 (Total: 3 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed launched: 538
Total units presumed sold: 445 (out of 748; 59.5% sold)Thanks for the great effort.

So far stilll going good! :p

GSLJ
03-09-11, 13:33
Post by land118-

http://forums.condosingapore.com/showthread.php?t=12040

Major facelift for Paya Lebar

Straits Times: Sat, Sep 03

THEY have long been seen as a bit sleepy, seedy and rundown, but Paya Lebar and Geylang are undergoing radical changes to make them a commercial hub - with positive spin-offs for home owners.

Hotels, shops, parks and other facilities are on the drawing board for the area, as part of the Urban Redevelopment Authority's 2008 Masterplan.

There is about 12ha of land available for development and a potential commercial floor space of more than 5 million sq ft.

The new Paya Lebar Central is poised to be a

bustling commercial centre near the MRT station, with a mix of office, retail and hotel developments, and attractive public spaces.

Mr Alan Cheong, Savills' associate director of research and consultancy, said: 'The Kallang district is perceived to be more genteel; it will have to attract users who may be (more similar in profile) to those of traditional Central Business District commercial space users.'

A key driver of the makeover will come when the Ministry of Manpower opens a Continuing Education and Training campus in Paya Lebar Central in 2013. The eight-storey campus will focus on tourism, hospitality, food and beverage, retail, security and aerospace.

'By taking the lead, the Government is sending a signal that it is committed to its plan for the area,' said Ms Chia Siew Chuin, Colliers International's director of research and advisory.

Industry players have also been eager to stake a claim in the area.

In April, there was a 10-way tussle between some of Singapore's biggest property players for a 1.5ha commercial site next to Paya Lebar MRT.

The tender was clinched by a consortium of property group Low Keng Huat, Guthrie and Sun Venture, which bid $586 million, or $872 per square foot per plot ratio (psf ppr), well above the $550 psf ppr or so predicted by analysts.

A 2ha plot at the corner of Sims Avenue and Tanjong Katong Road was recently released for sale as part of the Government Land Sales Programme. It is zoned for office, hotel and commercial use.

Another big field of developers could line up for this site, say market watchers, with an expected top bid of as much as $960 psf ppr. The tender closes on Oct 18.

Several existing buildings in the precinct are primed for redevelopment as well.

The old Singapura Theatre at the junction of Jalan Turi and Changi Road, once the go-to spot for Hindi and Malay movie fans, is likely be turned into a mixed-use project with apartments and shops. A partnership between Roxy-Pacific Holdings and Macly Capital secured the site last November for $44.9 million.

In Geylang Road, the old Lion City Hotel site and the former Hollywood Theatre next door will become a learning and enrichment hub, with a residential component. The UOL group emerged tops in a six-cornered fight earlier this year, with its bid of $313 million for the site.

Geylang Serai will also be receiving a facelift, to better reflect its distinct cultural identity.

The Malay Village will be redeveloped and a new civic centre called Wisma Geylang Serai added.

While the focus is on the district's commercial potential, the redevelopment effects are rubbing off on the area's residential sector as well.

Savills said the average price of non-landed property in district 14 has risen to $1,035 psf, 35 per cent up on the $766 psf average in 2008.

Far East Organization's latest project, euHabitat, is close to Paya Lebar, and like other developers, it is counting on the district's rejuvenation to draw new residents.

'Eastern districts are traditionally popular with home buyers...Paya Lebar is already an established precinct with good transport links, services and amenities,' said Mr Chia Boon Kuah, Far East's chief operating officer for property sales.

While the neighbourhood may seem to have a lot going for it, some analysts caution against being over-enthusiastic about the redevelopment plans.

[email protected]

Paya Lebar Central is poised to be a bustling commercial centre, with office, retail and hotel developments, as well as attractive public spaces.


Source: The Straits Times © Singapore Press Holdings Ltd. Reprinted with permission.
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Tripp
03-09-11, 13:38
Was told by agent that will not have own but common rubbish chutes.

Guess one lift pretty ok as level 1 and 2 units may not use it much. So mostly used by level 3-5 units for around 24 units. :)

Believe the lifts will serve basement carpark as well.

Bummer on the common rubbish chutes though. Due to non-existence of common corridor floor plan there is no way to find out whether how far/near the common rubbish chute is from your unit.

Have you seen any common rubbish chutes being built in the stairways, instead of at the common corridors, for FEO projects?

GSLJ
03-09-11, 13:48
Believe the lifts will serve basement carpark as well.

Bummer on the common rubbish chutes though. Due to non-existence of common corridor floor plan there is no way to find out whether how far/near the common rubbish chute is from your unit.

Have you seen any common rubbish chutes being built in the stairways, instead of at the common corridors, for FEO projects?Ya, thanks.

Forgot about the basement carpark! :p

My current stay is also under FEO. Have my own chute which I hardly use. I will bring downstairs to clear when I go out.

So matter of preference I guess. I rather not have my own but common chute. :)

Tripp
03-09-11, 14:03
For some reason, FEO's EuHabitat floor plans are very plain, and do not show additional information like wardrobe, bed, sofa, dining, kitchen utilities placements.

Furthermore there is no breakdown on the Balcony floor area in its pricelist as well, when compared to other FEO projects.

Hope they start construction works ASAP. Waiting for lower construction costs or what? :D

GSLJ
03-09-11, 14:10
For some reason, FEO's EuHabitat floor plans are very plain, and do not show additional information like wardrobe, bed, sofa, dining, kitchen utilities placements.

Furthermore there is no breakdown on the Balcony floor area in its pricelist as well, when compared to other FEO projects.

Hope they start construction works ASAP. Waiting for lower construction costs or what? :DI am also waiting for the letter for selection of marbles and wall feature.

Hope they tender out the contract to start work soon. Looking at the good take up should be soon?:D

Tripp
03-09-11, 14:19
I am also waiting for the letter for selection of marbles and wall feature.

Hope they tender out the contract to start work soon. Looking at the good take up should be soon?:D

Don't think the selection letter comes with the S&P. Possibly later?

Is there any email to send to for enquires for EuHabitat owners?

GSLJ
03-09-11, 17:10
Don't think the selection letter comes with the S&P. Possibly later?

Is there any email to send to for enquires for EuHabitat owners?Ya,

I reckon should be later once they received all the S&P. So maybe at least around Oct onwards...

Not sure about email, you may call the FEO hotline to check? :)

Tripp
03-09-11, 23:59
On another note, any recommendations on mortgage insurance?

When is a good time to get them? Now OR during loan disbursement OR wait till TOP?

Rosy
04-09-11, 01:41
On another note, any recommendations on mortgage insurance?

When is a good time to get them? Now OR during loan disbursement OR wait till TOP?
Get it done once u exercised:)

Ask your banker for any tie up

GSLJ
04-09-11, 12:50
On another note, any recommendations on mortgage insurance?

When is a good time to get them? Now OR during loan disbursement OR wait till TOP?For me, will consider this after TOP.

Loan to disburse around one year plus later and TOP another 3 years plus later...:)

But for peace of mind, anytime is ideal! :p

Worsty
04-09-11, 23:23
For me, will consider this after TOP.

Loan to disburse around one year plus later and TOP another 3 years plus later...:)

But for peace of mind, anytime is ideal! :p

Is this the same insurance as the fire insurance? Or is mortgage insurance something separate altogether?

If it's fire, i'll bother only nearing end of 4th year from TOP since that's when my free insurance ends.

Tripp
05-09-11, 08:19
Is this the same insurance as the fire insurance? Or is mortgage insurance something separate altogether?


Mortgage Insurance takes care of unpaid home repayments, should any unforeseen event such as death or total and permanent disability happen to any one of the two joint homeowners.

Laguna
05-09-11, 16:46
one SOHO block to be launched this evening
discount 12%+2%

mygeemeel
05-09-11, 16:49
Those lucky ones who bought earlier got 12+6+2% discount and additional 2% for FEO loyalty discount. Super shiok.

Anyone can confirm if my math is correct? :D

Tripp
05-09-11, 17:00
one SOHO block to be launched this evening
discount 12%+2%

Only 3 SOHO Towers yet to be released; Towers 21, 24, 25.

mygeemeel
05-09-11, 20:31
You can maintain $1 also can.

Bascially how it works is :

If you have $10,000 inside, 2/3 of this $10,000 will have the same interest as what the bank is charging you for your mortgage. The remaining will have the usual bank interest rate. Effectively, you'll incur less interest as it's setoff at the same rate.

The max amount you can have in the bank to enjoy this is the loan amount. Ie, if your loan amount is $1,000,000 , you can have maximum $1,500,000 in this account. Also means, if you have $1,500,000 in this account, there is no interest to be paid by you for the entire duration you have the mortgage. Of course, as the principle amount goes down, the maximum amount will go down accordingly.

Why not take up stand chart? 1mth sibor is always lower than 3mth sibor (approx 0.1+%), and stand chart is 1mth +0.55 for first 2 yrs, + 0.65 for 3rd, end of 3rd year, just do the conversion.

Tks mate! ;)

Worsty
05-09-11, 20:40
Those lucky ones who bought earlier got 12+6+2% discount and additional 2% for FEO loyalty discount. Super shiok.

Anyone can confirm if my math is correct? :D
I think mine is 12 + 6 + 1.5 (vicinity?) + 3 (furniture rebate)

No FEO loyalty so lost 0.5% there. Got mine on 31 July. Not sure if there's more discount before that.

No worries mygeemeel.

igoeast
05-09-11, 20:58
I think mine is 12 + 6 + 1.5 (vicinity?) + 3 (furniture rebate)

No FEO loyalty so lost 0.5% there. Got mine on 31 July. Not sure if there's more discount before that.

No worries mygeemeel.

Mine is 12 + 6 + 2 + 3 (furniture rebate)

No FEO loyalty nor vicinity discount. Bought on 27 July.

Worsty
05-09-11, 21:07
Mine is 12 + 6 + 2 + 3 (furniture rebate)

No FEO loyalty nor vicinity discount. Bought on 27 July.

Hmm..then in that case, i got 12 + 6 + 2 + 1.5 + 3 ?

Coz i know i got vicinity discount but no FEO loyalty.

What's the 12 , 6 and 2 for? Any ideas?

Tripp
05-09-11, 21:27
The launch discounts should be: 12% + 6% + (either 1.5% Vicinity Discount OR 2% FEO Loyalty Discount) + 3% FV

Laguna
05-09-11, 22:46
Spent 3 hours this evening there

also checked :
1. There are 3 lifts per block, very good...
2. the common central rubbish chute is at the centre of the block, most likely next to the lift, good luck to the units next to it
3. the boundary fence is solid brick with, 1.8m height
4. the 12%+6% discount, the 6% is for the early launches, and for this project, FEO launched the not so good units first.
5. discount and FV have dropped alr for the new tower launched

While I was in HK, where they use the common central rubbish chute, they always have an outlet for the chute at the top floor...and not share whether it is the same design here. Did not check

Tripp
05-09-11, 23:01
Spent 3 hours this evening there

also checked :
1. There are 3 lifts per block, very good...
2. the common central rubbish chute is at the centre of the block, most likely next to the lift, good luck to the units next to it
3. the boundary fence is solid brick with, 1.8m height


I've checked the promotional materials, there are 25 lifts in the development, which makes it one lift per Tower.

When you say boundary fence, do you mean the wall perimeters surrounding the development?

Worsty
05-09-11, 23:01
Spent 3 hours this evening there

also checked :
1. There are 3 lifts per block, very good...
2. the common central rubbish chute is at the centre of the block, most likely next to the lift, good luck to the units next to it
3. the boundary fence is solid brick with, 1.8m height
4. the 12%+6% discount, the 6% is for the early launches, and for this project, FEO launched the not so good units first.
5. discount and FV have dropped alr for the new tower launched

While I was in HK, where they use the common central rubbish chute, they always have an outlet for the chute at the top floor...and not share whether it is the same design here. Did not check

Hi, the boundary fence as in for the PES? And yes, 3 lift per tower is very good.

Waiting for FEO to ask me to choose the furnishing now that i have taken up the option. :D

Laguna
05-09-11, 23:12
Hi, the boundary fence as in for the PES? And yes, 3 lift per tower is very good.

Waiting for FEO to ask me to choose the furnishing now that i have taken up the option. :D

sori, it is the estate boundary wall...estate perimeter wall

In fact, for these type of projects, I expect 2 lift per block..will confirm tmr

just picked up a ground floor SOHO unit, very nice one....exclusively...and 2% royalty discount for a more expensive unit.....

Worsty
05-09-11, 23:15
sori, it is the estate boundary wall...estate perimeter wall

In fact, for these type of projects, I expect 2 lift per block..will confirm tmr

just picked up a ground floor SOHO unit, very nice one....exclusively...and 2% royalty discount for a more expensive unit.....

Do you mind while you're there tom, to help check if there's like any fence or something along the likes for the PES? Some brochures show a gate leading to the PES but the conceptual pictures didn't show any.

Any idea what's the latest count for sold units?

Laguna
05-09-11, 23:21
Do you mind while you're there tom, to help check if there's like any fence or something along the likes for the PES? Some brochures show a gate leading to the PES but the conceptual pictures didn't show any.

Any idea what's the latest count for sold units?

I checked this, the ground floor unit is about 0.5m above ground, that will give u a two-steps stair to the PES. It shall be a gate or a glass gate.
The PES shall be enclosed by glass....

Worsty
05-09-11, 23:44
I checked this, the ground floor unit is about 0.5m above ground, that will give u a two-steps stair to the PES. It shall be a gate or a glass gate.
The PES shall be enclosed by glass....

Thanks for the info!

Now trying to psycho my bro to get the Seawind so that we'll be relatively close to one another. If not, then Flamingo Valley.

bargain hunter
06-09-11, 08:39
There were 24 units shifted at EuHabitat in Jalan Eunos over the weekend, bringing the total number of sales to 472 out of the 548 apartments available

Tripp
06-09-11, 08:49
The Straits Times
Sep 6, 2011
Brisk home sales lift market mood
But surge unlikely despite weekend crowds, say experts

By Cheryl Lim

There were surprisingly brisk sales at property projects over the weekend, to give the month a rousing start after weeks of slow action.

No one in the market had expected sales to hit the levels of a year ago, but the numbers in recent days have lifted sentiment.

The Luxurie in Sengkang has sold 180 units since sales started last week at an average price of $980 per square foot (psf). Most of the project's 622 units are two-bedders and three-bedders.

Its pricing is similar to that of neighbouring mass-market development H2O Residences by City Developments, but its proximity to Sengkang MRT and bus interchange makes The Luxurie more attractive, said DMG and Partners Research. The Sengkang Public Library and Community Hub are also nearby, as are CHIJ St Joseph's Convent and Rivervale Primary.

The Meyerise, a freehold development in Meyer Road, has racked up about 80 sales since it started last Friday. Singaporeans and permanent residents comprised about 90 per cent of all buyers. The project has 239 units, a mix of two-bedroom, three-bedroom, four-bedroom and penthouse units. The average price was $1,950 psf, with three-bedroom units the most popular among buyers.

The Meyerise is minutes away from Parkway Parade and Katong Shopping Centre, with Playground@Big Splash and East Coast Park also nearby.

There were 24 units shifted at EuHabitat in Jalan Eunos over the weekend, bringing the total number of sales to 472 out of the 548 apartments available.

Another 20 homes were sold at Boathouse Residences in Upper Serangoon over the same period.

This strong response was also mirrored in the executive condominium market, where applications for the Arc at Tampines were expected to surpass 1,180 by yesterday's 10pm deadline.

With 574 units up for grabs, this translates to a healthy subscription rate of about 2.1 times.

Anecdotal observations suggest that several showflats, including those at the Arc at Tampines and The Luxurie, were packed with prospective buyers, although that may not translate into big sales numbers.

Associate Professor Sing Tien Foo from the department of real estate at the National University of Singapore's School of Design and Environment said he was surprised by the crowds. 'I thought a lot of people are waiting to see how the global market situation will turn out,' he said.

'Some people could be going into the showflats to look for inspiration, others could be going out of curiosity, to see what the market situation is like before making a decision.'

ECG Property, which marketed several properties over the weekend, said that while crowds continued to visit showflats, they are not as big as those seen at the beginning of the year.

But ECG chief executive Eric Cheng is optimistic that the next few months will be better: 'September is not a good month. We're just getting over the stock market shock and the ghost month has barely ended. The market is still looking very uncertain. Some people may have lost money on the stock market and they might not be looking to put money into property for now.'

But Mr Steven Tan, OrangeTee's director of residential, is confident that the demand for new homes will continue, despite lingering economic worries.

'Now the main group of buyers are those who are purchasing for their own stay. Transactions from this group are driven by genuine demand, and they are less affected by all these economic uncertainties,' he said.

Low interest rates will also go some way towards encouraging new home sales, say analysts.

The number of new home sales, including executive condominiums, hit 1,954 in July.

But the stock market turmoil last month - the Straits Times Index fell 9.5 per cent over the month - has market watchers keenly awaiting August's figures.

[email protected]

Tripp
06-09-11, 09:10
There were 24 units shifted at EuHabitat in Jalan Eunos over the weekend, bringing the total number of sales to 472 out of the 548 apartments available

This translates to 86.1% of launched units sold; and total development sales of 63.1% (based on 748 available units).

There are still a few more unreleased Towers / Townhouses (200 units; making up 26.7% of the development). It may well be launched to coincide with FEO China property tour which will be in SG from Sep 22-24.

DC33_2008
06-09-11, 09:20
I guess some buyers these weekends have some financial muscles (especially those at meyers) want to leverage on the low interest rate rather than putting their money in the bank. They probably hope that when their units are TOP in 3 years time, the economy will be better.

bargain hunter
06-09-11, 09:36
your guesstimates have been pretty accurate! :) keep them up!



This translates to 86.1% of launched units sold; and total development sales of 63.1% (based on 748 available units).

There are still a few more unreleased Towers / Townhouses (200 units; making up 26.7% of the development). It may well be launched to coincide with FEO China property tour which will be in SG from Sep 22-24.

Laguna
06-09-11, 10:49
correction
it is ONLY ONE LIFT PER BLOCK......good luck to those in the higher floors.....
when the lift broke down, servicing, ppl moving house...u either wait long long or do some exercise......
but it is good for ground floor units and pay less maintenance fee as lift maintenance cost is very high

Tripp
06-09-11, 10:59
Published September 6, 2011
Weekend launches off to a good start
The Meyerise sees 70% take-up while The Luxurie in Sengkang sees 82%

By MINDY TAN

TWO project launches over the weekend - a preview of The Meyerise and the official launch of The Luxurie - saw a strong turnout.

The Meyerise, a 239-unit freehold development by Hong Leong Holdings, saw 70 per cent of the 120 units released snapped up.

Of the units sold at the District 15 Meyer Road project, nearly half consisted of three-bedroom units. Unit prices ranged from $1,400 to $2,540 psf.

'New freehold properties across the island are few and far between, much less within the district,' said Joseph Tan, executive director for residential services at CBRE.

'Residents in this area often prefer to continue keeping their address within the district because it's an excellent location with good amenities and value.'

Singaporeans and permanent residents made up over 90 per cent of buyers in the preview weekend.

Meanwhile, The Luxurie, a 99-year leasehold development located at Sengkang, has seen more than 180 units sold at an average price of $980 psf since its preview launch on Aug 26. The penthouse and groundfloor units are fully sold.

Augustine Tan, president (Singapore residential), Keppel Land, said: 'The positive take-up, with more than 82 per cent of the 220 launched units sold, reflects homebuyers' confidence in The Luxurie's strong value offerings, such as its prime location near the MRT station and wide array of amenities, as well as Keppel's quality hallmark and attention to detail.'
When completed in 2015, The Luxurie will comprise a total of 622 apartments, ranging from one to four-bedroom units as well as penthouse units.

Comparable projects in the area include Kovan Residences, located along Kovan Road, which had a recently transacted price of $1,180 psf; and Boathouse Residences, located along Upper Serangoon Road, which was recently transacted at $880 psf.

In August, Far East Organization sold 181 units of its 748-unit euHabitat during its preview launch.

Located on Jalan Eunos, the 99-year leasehold project offers one bedroom suites, SOHO-style apartments, condominium apartments and townhouses.
To date, 472 of its 548 units released for sale have been sold.

Prices range from $880 to $1,200 psf.

Tripp
06-09-11, 11:04
correction
it is ONLY ONE LIFT PER BLOCK......good luck to those in the higher floors.....
when the lift broke down, servicing, ppl moving house...u either wait long long or do some exercise......
but it is good for ground floor units and pay less maintenance fee as lift maintenance cost is very high

I believe maintenance fees are based on your alloted share of the whole development.

Alloted Share x Maintenance Amt Per Unit Share = Maintenance Fee

By the way, did anyone sound out what is the estimated monthly maintenance costs?

devilplate
06-09-11, 11:15
correction
it is ONLY ONE LIFT PER BLOCK......good luck to those in the higher floors.....
when the lift broke down, servicing, ppl moving house...u either wait long long or do some exercise......
but it is good for ground floor units and pay less maintenance fee as lift maintenance cost is very high

its common to have only 1 lift for katek projects

btw, maint fee is based on strata space....additional share value for every 50sqm(51sqm lugi lor whereas 99sqm tantio...LOL)

Laguna
06-09-11, 13:34
I believe maintenance fees are based on your alloted share of the whole development.

Alloted Share x Maintenance Amt Per Unit Share = Maintenance Fee

By the way, did anyone sound out what is the estimated monthly maintenance costs?

this sort of basis knowledge I hv.

What I meant is more lift, will need to pay higher maintenance lah
in ave is about $450 per month per lift

For one bedroom suite, the monthly fee is about $200+

Tripp
06-09-11, 21:33
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 05 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 05 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(05Sep2011).pdf (http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat%2805Sep2011%29.pdf)

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (9 left; 11 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (6 left; 14 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (5 left; 25 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (2 left; 28 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (7 left; 33 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 23 units
Total Townhouses presumed sold:
Units 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 304 (Total: 20 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 300, 302 (Total: 3 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed launched: 538
Total units presumed sold: 471 (out of 748; 63% sold)

Note: Press reports on 6 Sep 11 indicates 472 units sold with 548 units launched.

Laguna
06-09-11, 21:37
tower 24 launched evening yesterday, but not included in the latest update 5 Sept

Jonathan0503
07-09-11, 13:22
Seems like this project is doing quite well.

What's the main selling point?

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 13:25
This is really a very good question for those who have bought a unit here. FEO is really so good in marketing the project?
Seems like this project is doing quite well.

What's the main selling point?

amk
07-09-11, 14:10
... Sorry can someone explain to me what the selling point of this location is ? No MRT, no amenities, next to highway, surrounded by future development, no branded schools, no international school, no golf course view, no reservoir view, no nature reserve view, no sea view... At least 8Cy and seastrand are cheap enough... :confused:

Look I asked the same question 2 weeks ago :cool: only devil gave me a reason: price. and he's not a buyer there. ;)

Montaigne
07-09-11, 14:25
not exactly cheap.. LH, far from MRT.. next to expressway..

Tripp
07-09-11, 14:47
The location as well as the price.

Well connected via PIE, ECP and KPE, especially if you drive.

MRT @ Eunos (2 bus stops away + 5-10 min walk) OR Kembangan (if you're lazy to walk) and the upcoming DTL @ Ubi OR Kakit Bukit (estimated 10-15 min walk(?); to be ready by 2016).

Food-wise can hop by to nearby food haunts such as Geylang, Joo Chiat, East Coast, Siglap & Bedok.

Shopping amenities/supermarkets: Parkway Parade, 112 Katong, Tampines Mall, Tampines One, Century Square, Giant @ Tampines North.

Schools: Nothing to shout about within 1km (perhaps maybe Maha Bodhi School). A bit further you can find Tao Nan, St Hilda's or Temasek Primary.

Added bonus: Redevelopment in Paya Lebar & Geylang Serai belt.

Having seen last few FEO projects in Seastrand, Woodhaven, Boathouse Residences, Euhabitat, this development wins by location, furnishing and pricing.

Bedroom sizes are surprisingly big; can fit king/queen sized beds in all bedrooms.

Would not have chosen the development if the discounts are not substantial. The list prices are ridiculous.

My 2 cents.

mygeemeel
07-09-11, 15:15
The location as well as the price.

Well connected via PIE, ECP and KPE, especially if you drive.

MRT @ Eunos (2 bus stops away + 5-10 min walk) OR Kembangan (if you're lazy to walk) and the upcoming DTL @ Ubi OR Kakit Bukit (estimated 10-15 min walk(?); to be ready by 2016).

Food-wise can hop by to nearby food haunts such as Geylang, Joo Chiat, East Coast, Siglap & Bedok.

Shopping amenities/supermarkets: Parkway Parade, 112 Katong, Tampines Mall, Tampines One, Century Square, Giant @ Tampines North.

Schools: Nothing to shout about within 1km (perhaps maybe Maha Bodhi School). A bit further you can find Tao Nan, St Hilda's or Temasek Primary.

Added bonus: Redevelopment in Paya Lebar & Geylang Serai belt.

Having seen last few FEO projects in Seastrand, Woodhaven, Boathouse Residences, Euhabitat, this development wins by location, furnishing and pricing.

Bedroom sizes are surprisingly big; can fit king/queen sized beds in all bedrooms.

Would not have chosen the development if the discounts are not substantial. The list prices are ridiculous.

My 2 cents.

I rather pay for one on the edge of Geylang ie Waterina. FH somemore.

iwantgizmos
07-09-11, 15:28
I rather pay for one on the edge of Geylang ie Waterina. FH somemore.
Check out these videos on Waterina. Quite informative.

http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/real-estate-video/626
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/real-estate-video/627
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/real-estate-video/628
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/real-estate-video/629
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/real-estate-video/630

devilplate
07-09-11, 16:24
I rather pay for one on the edge of Geylang ie Waterina. FH somemore.
Not a fair comparison.....u can get a 1bdr at euhabitat from as low as 520k....i was there at the preview and being offered a 1bdr at 950psf at 52xk....can u get anything at waterina for below 550k?

When we make comparison....we must factor in total quantum and not just psf....especially true when we nid to put 40% dp now and every 100k leads to 40k more cash for dp

For those who r looking at quantum below 600k, many r those apt wif puny pools and very unlivable layout of 3xx to 4xxsqft now....so this one 5xxsqft at 9xxpsf with full marbles surely appeals to low budget investors

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 16:53
Did not go to showflat. What are the facing of these MM units?
Not a fair comparison.....u can get a 1bdr at euhabitat from as low as 520k....i was there at the preview and being offered a 1bdr at 950psf at 52xk....can u get anything at waterina for below 550k?

When we make comparison....we must factor in total quantum and not just psf....especially true when we nid to put 40% dp now and every 100k leads to 40k more cash for dp

For those who r looking at quantum below 600k, many r those apt wif puny pools and very unlivable layout of 3xx to 4xxsqft now....so this one 5xxsqft at 9xxpsf with full marbles surely appeals to low budget investors

Worsty
07-09-11, 17:07
I rather pay for one on the edge of Geylang ie Waterina. FH somemore.
I'm with Tripp. It's relatively cheap compared to Seastrand, Boathouse, Woodshaven at a more desirable location. It's just outside D15 (Staying at Bedok South now and always liking the East) and the OCR and have good access to the major highways.

I like the fact that the plot ratio is low as i like staying in low rise and no neighboring development will 'over tower' euHabitat as it's not allowed to due to height restrictions.

The place gives a 'resort' feel with the site layout and the finishing is better than other show flats i have been to (at the same price range).

Not being near a branded school is not an issue for me since i don't need my place to be within 1km since i'm an alumni for a reputable pri school already. In any case, i'm years from having a kid. Not even married yet.

Buying a resale would have me fork up more since i'll need to redo the entire place to my liking. I understand if you're buying to rent to collect rental yield but for me, it's to stay and i also like the idea of being the first occupant.

With regards to FH vs LH, after doing some rough cost benefit analysis between the extra i'm forking out in terms of capital + interest (for FH) and the probable rise in psf for both types in the next 10-15 yrs, i think it's probably a better idea (again, for me personally based on my requirements) to go with euHabitat than say a place like Waterina.

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 17:12
What is the facing of smaller units? N, S, E or W?
I'm with Tripp. It's relatively cheap compared to Seastrand, Boathouse, Woodshaven at a more desirable location. It's just outside D15 (Staying at Bedok South now and always liking the East) and the OCR and have good access to the major highways.

I like the fact that the plot ratio is low as i like staying in low rise and no neighboring development will 'over tower' euHabitat as it's not allowed to due to height restrictions.

The place gives a 'resort' feel with the site layout and the finishing is better than other show flats i have been to (at the same price range).

Not being near a branded school is not an issue for me since i don't need my place to be within 1km since i'm an alumni for a reputable pri school already. In any case, i'm years from having a kid. Not even married yet.

Buying a resale would have me fork up more since i'll need to redo the entire place to my liking. I understand if you're buying to rent to collect rental yield but for me, it's to stay and i also like the idea of being the first occupant.

With regards to FH vs LH, after doing some rough cost benefit analysis between the extra i'm forking out in terms of capital + interest (for FH) and the probable rise in psf for both types in the next 10-15 yrs, i think it's probably a better idea (again, for me personally based on my requirements) to go with euHabitat than say a place like Waterina.

phantom_opera
07-09-11, 17:13
Price is definitely reasonable but the site plan looks so congested, can't even see the main pool ...:scared-5:

May be rent out ok, self stay no no ... playing tennis daily next to PIE will kill you

http://euhabitatcondo.com/files/2011/07/euHabitat-Overall-Development-Plan.jpg

devilplate
07-09-11, 17:16
Did not go to showflat. What are the facing of these MM units?
The one i being offered is not facing PIE...

And they r not mm bcoz above 506sqft

Worsty
07-09-11, 17:17
What is the facing of smaller units? N, S, E or W?
Suites are all E/W facing. SOHOs faces N/S , E/W ..all over actually..haha.

My unit's a condo with NE facing.

devilplate
07-09-11, 17:17
Price is definitely reasonable but the site plan looks so congested, can't even see the main pool ...:scared-5:

May be rent out ok, self stay no no
Siteplan vy congested, big proportion of 1bdr aso :tsk-tsk:

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 17:22
N/S could be worst for this site as the wind laden with vehicular fumes could be coming into the units. BTW, this development is really close to PIE. How far is the nearest unit from PIE? 20-30m?
Suites are all N/S facing. SOHOs faces N/S , E/W ..all over actually..haha.

My unit's a condo with NE facing.

Worsty
07-09-11, 17:27
N/S could be worst for this site as the wind laden with vehicular fumes could be coming into the units. BTW, this development is really close to PIE. How far is the nearest unit from PIE? 20-30m?
It's about 30m to the slip road? And probably another 10m to the main PIE?

The most affected part is the tennis court i reckon

devilplate
07-09-11, 17:32
N/S could be worst for this site as the wind laden with vehicular fumes could be coming into the units. BTW, this development is really close to PIE. How far is the nearest unit from PIE? 20-30m?
The unit i m eyeing was facing the townhse which is furthest away from PIE....

If no 4yrs ssd, i wud b vy tempted....lol

Big proportion of 1bdr is a concern for me....rental upon TOP is gg to be ugly

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 17:33
Unfortunately, it can travel for quite a distance. No wonder townhouse is so popular as they are the furthest away. Most of the Suites, all soho, some end part of the condos and townhouses will be exposed to it. They are even finer than those haze from Indonesian fire. Look at what KL is expressing now.
It's about 30m to the slip road? And probably another 10m to the main PIE?

The most affected part is the tennis court i reckon

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 17:35
Is the landscape sloping upwards towards the townhouse at the rear?
The unit i m eyeing was facing the townhse which is furthest away from PIE....

If no 4yrs ssd, i wud b vy tempted....lol

Big proportion of 1bdr is a concern for me....rental upon TOP is gg to be ugly

devilplate
07-09-11, 17:39
Is the landscape sloping upwards towards the townhouse at the rear?
Look flattish to me....not too sure...hehe

amk
07-09-11, 19:03
For those who r looking at quantum below 600k, many r those apt wif puny pools and very unlivable layout of 3xx to 4xxsqft now....so this one 5xxsqft at 9xxpsf with full marbles surely appeals to low budget investors

that is, if the said investor has to buy something now. It's a leap of faith to bank on the paya lebar makeover generating sufficient rental demand for this. More than half are soho, one bd etc. Rental is going to be severely depressed. Almost every buyer there is an investor.

However indeed the sum involved is small. Absolute downside is limited.

Btw I really solute FEO's marketing. From Silversea to Cyan to Seastrand

igoeast
07-09-11, 19:08
This place under Pritnam Singh (WP).
Another gd reason to buy? :D

Laguna
07-09-11, 20:04
without any intention of buying, I landed with myself two units. Both ground floor, one suite unit and a SOHO.

Perhaps to sum up my assessment. (In addition to the points mentioned by quite a few here)

1. low density of 1.4, the GLS lands now are running at a plot ratio of 2.8 to 3.6. This project has big land size, I checked the main pool size and some of the pools, all are reasonably good sizes. The landscape is very impressive. In fact, one the best ones I hv ever seen. Distance block to block however, is so so.

2. Drive around Paya Lebar, Kaki Bukit, Eunos, Defu, you will notice the number of SME are countless, there are few international network switching companies in this area as well. But hardly any good condo nearby.

3. FEO bot the land at $414psf ppr, with stamp duty of 3% is around $428, I estimate the construction cost with this type of furnishing given and the landscape, the cost easily is in the region of $340-$380psf adding in holding and other costs, and at 5% profit pa for 4-5 years, FEO did not really overcharge the buyers. Some developers are running at gross margin of 50%.

4. Compare prices at Boothouse, Luxurie...and location...the price here looks much more reasonable.

5. The high ceiling of the ground floor units and SOHO, did not count in as strata area. If u bring in that, the price drops by about 20% as some developers count the air space as strata area.

Well, I bot the SOHO at Tower 24 on Monday, yesterday, at least 3 units of SOHO at ground floor sold. Today, the entire tower is reserved and will be sold to PRC.

The marketing of FEO is first class, 50-60% sold to PRC. This is the only developer serving customers with free flow of drinks, snacks, dinner and ice cream.

BTW, the PRC buyers are smart, they are very well informed of the local market.

Buyers need to scrutinise the entire project to identify good buys.

The hoarding around the land is about 5m but the actual one is 1.8m...and many buyers may not aware.

For the early buyers, seems to enjoy good discount, but if u understand FEO marketing strategy, you will know FEO keep the better units and launching the not so good first....

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 20:31
Do you think it is good news with 50% is sold to PRC? How is this compared to the Waterfront housing at Bedok reservior?
without any intention of buying, I landed with myself two units. Both ground floor, one suite unit and a SOHO.

Perhaps to sum up my assessment. (In addition to the points mentioned by quite a few here)

1. low density of 1.4, the GLS lands now are running at a plot ratio of 2.8 to 3.6. This project has big land size, I checked the main pool size and some of the pools, all are reasonably good sizes. The landscape is very impressive. In fact, one the best ones I hv ever seen. Distance block to block however, is so so.

2. Drive around Paya Lebar, Kaki Bukit, Eunos, Defu, you will notice the number of SME are countless, there are few international network switching companies in this area as well. But hardly any good condo nearby.

3. FEO bot the land at $414psf ppr, with stamp duty of 3% is around $428, I estimate the construction cost with this type of furnishing given and the landscape, the cost easily is in the region of $340-$380psf adding in holding and other costs, and at 5% profit pa for 4-5 years, FEO did not really overcharge the buyers. Some developers are running at gross margin of 50%.

4. Compare prices at Boothouse, Luxurie...and location...the price here looks much more reasonable.

5. The high ceiling of the ground floor units and SOHO, did not count in as strata area. If u bring in that, the price drops by about 20% as some developers count the air space as strata area.

Well, I bot the SOHO at Tower 24 on Monday, yesterday, at least 3 units of SOHO at ground floor sold. Today, the entire tower is reserved and will be sold to PRC.

The marketing of FEO is first class, 50-60% sold to PRC. This is the only developer serving customers with free flow of drinks, snacks, dinner and ice cream.

BTW, the PRC buyers are smart, they are very well informed of the local market.

Buyers need to scrutinise the entire project to identify good buys.

The hoarding around the land is about 5m but the actual one is 1.8m...and many buyers may not aware.

For the early buyers, seems to enjoy good discount, but if u understand FEO marketing strategy, you will know FEO keep the better units and launching the not so good first....

Laguna
07-09-11, 20:41
Do you think it is good news with 50% is sold to PRC? How is this compared to the Waterfront housing at Bedok reservior?

I am neutral in this. When I bot the other condos, the PRC are buying into 10s, get used to it alr.

Bedok Reservior.....the waterfront....depends on the entry level...but too many condo there....so u need to hv the x factor for your unit..and the road is so narrow...I am waiting for the new launch and may pick one or two there facing the reservior....

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 20:46
Sometimes narrow road may not be a bad thing. Too many lanes road can be a noise and pollution problem. Do you think rental market can be rather competitive here given so many condos from here to kembangan, hdb flats and bedok reservior?
I am neutral in this. When I bot the other condos, the PRC are buying into 10s, get used to it alr.

Bedok Reservior.....the waterfront....depends on the entry level...but too many condo there....so u need to hv the x factor for your unit..and the road is so narrow...I am waiting for the new launch and will be picking one or two there facing the reservior....

Laguna
07-09-11, 21:03
Tower 24 opens for sales

DC33_2008
07-09-11, 21:08
People already putting soho for sales at over a $1000psf. How much FEO selling for Tower 24?
Tower 24 opens for sales

flagship74
07-09-11, 22:51
Tower 24 opens for sales

WOW!!I might consider to buy one SOHO unit:ashamed1:

GSLJ
07-09-11, 23:55
This translates to 86.1% of launched units sold; and total development sales of 63.1% (based on 748 available units).

There are still a few more unreleased Towers / Townhouses (200 units; making up 26.7% of the development). It may well be launched to coincide with FEO China property tour which will be in SG from Sep 22-24.Wow..that's great news.

China buying power coming soon, so hopefully 80% sold by then? :p

GSLJ
07-09-11, 23:58
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 05 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 05 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(05Sep2011).pdf (http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat%2805Sep2011%29.pdf)

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (9 left; 11 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (6 left; 14 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (5 left; 25 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (2 left; 28 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (7 left; 33 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 23 units
Total Townhouses presumed sold:
Units 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 304 (Total: 20 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 300, 302 (Total: 3 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed launched: 538
Total units presumed sold: 471 (out of 748; 63% sold)

Note: Press reports on 6 Sep 11 indicates 472 units sold with 548 units launched.Thanks for the update, appreciate the effort. :)

Can't wait for construction to start!!! :p

GSLJ
08-09-11, 00:03
This place under Pritnam Singh (WP).
Another gd reason to buy? :DLol...no wonder this project so hot. :p

GSLJ
08-09-11, 00:07
I am neutral in this. When I bot the other condos, the PRC are buying into 10s, get used to it alr.

Bedok Reservior.....the waterfront....depends on the entry level...but too many condo there....so u need to hv the x factor for your unit..and the road is so narrow...I am waiting for the new launch and may pick one or two there facing the reservior....I was looking at one of the units from the Waterfront projects, but decided to get a unit here instead as I feel that the area there already one whole long stretch of condos and with more coming soon.

DC33_2008
08-09-11, 08:55
This is a huge development with 700 plus units at between $880 - $1200psf. It good to know the take-up rate is good over here even at this price range and location.Far East Organization sold 181 units of its 748-unit euHabitat during its preview launch.

Located on Jalan Eunos, the 99-year leasehold project offers one bedroom suites, SOHO-style apartments, condominium apartments and townhouses.

To date, 472 of its 548 units released for sale have been sold.

Prices range from $880 to $1,200 psf.
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Laguna
08-09-11, 10:22
Sometimes narrow road may not be a bad thing. Too many lanes road can be a noise and pollution problem. Do you think rental market can be rather competitive here given so many condos from here to kembangan, hdb flats and bedok reservior?

I cnt predict the rental market when this project TOP 3 years later. What I believe, when u pick a unit from a project of this size, the unit u buy must have the X factors to attract the tenant or the next buyer. The best, u can have a premium over others as well. Otherwise, u will be one of 700+ units looking for tenants...

DC33_2008
08-09-11, 10:30
It is an interesting list of selection criteria.
I cnt predict the rental market when this project TOP 3 years later. What I believe, when u pick a unit from a project of this size, the unit u buy must have the X factors to attract the tenant or the next buyer. The best, u must have a premium over others as well. Otherwise, u will be one of 700+ units looking for tenants...

Perhaps, let me illustrate, take SOHO units, and if I am a tenant/investor, what will I be looking for :

1. I rule out all units facing the roads...so that take away about 1/3 of the SOHO units, take away all units facing the old houses, not pleasant, and old houses could be a subject of future development, so take away another 10% of total SOHO stock

2. next, I will not get units, when I look out, I see the neighour of the opposite blocks. the distance is too close for comfort..so I rule out all the second floor and above, moreover, all these higher floor units are hotter and brighters..not so cosy...ground floor units at least have the plants and trees

3. compare higher floors and ground floor, the choice is clearer. The ground floor units have higher ceiling (5m vs 3.6m, it is a lot of difference)

4. next, ground floor units having privacy issues...so look around for exclusive corner units...litter issue..not so bad, 5 storey height. the PES is almost all covered...look for one unit with least human traffic...of course..cnt be near to BBQ pit as well

5. also ventilation issue, all the intermediate ground units are not natural ventaliation for the bathroom, also the ventalisation is not so good as the balcony is wall both side even it is not full height

6. Orientation : prefer N-S, then east...but ground floor not so bad...as most of the time, they are shielded

7.pick an unit with pool side, a pool that no one will use...but good for u only...there are more than 15 pools in this project


There are other factors as well.....so u study carefully and u will find that for 200 units of SOHO, there are less than 5 units can meet my selection criteria...

Laguna
08-09-11, 10:36
It is an interesting list of selection criteria.

well, perhaps I should conduct Property Investment seminar as well....
this is not the complete list.......
there are many things when ur looking for a buy...it is like pick a stock which can outperform the market.....

DC33_2008
08-09-11, 10:39
Absolutely agree with your last statement.
well, perhaps I should conduct Property Investment seminar as well....
this is not the complete list.......
there are many things when ur looking for a buy...it is like pick a stock which can outperform the market.....

devilplate
08-09-11, 10:43
well, perhaps I should conduct Property Investment seminar as well....
this is not the complete list.......
there are many things when ur looking for a buy...it is like pick a stock which can outperform the market.....

i am just surprised tat ur sentiment changed within 1wk
...bot 2 units somemore

mabe u noe something tat we dont? can share?:)

I_RIDE_DEEP
08-09-11, 12:28
without any intention of buying, I landed with myself two units. Both ground floor, one suite unit and a SOHO.



Hi Laguna. Like you I missed the pre-launch also. Can you advise if it is still possible to negotiate for the pre-launch discounts like vicinity discount etc. etc........

devilplate
08-09-11, 12:31
Hi Laguna. Like you I missed the pre-launch also. Can you advise if it is still possible to negotiate for the pre-launch discounts like vicinity discount etc. etc........

not possible for this project especially we r toking about FEO

can try ur luck at those smaller developer

even during recession period, FEO r not willing to nego

DC33_2008
08-09-11, 13:31
Unfortunately, the development is not mid-rise. :( Is the staircase for the SOHO looks rather lightweight? Does not look like concrete stairs.

mygeemeel
08-09-11, 16:58
Bros who took standchart's 0.55%, 0.55%, 0.65%... How many years of fire insurance did you get? What is the penalty for early redemption?

Laguna
08-09-11, 17:15
Unfortunately, the development is not mid-rise. :( Is the staircase for the SOHO looks rather lightweight? Does not look like concrete stairs.

They hv changed the config for the SOHO
it is now very much better..
it is not concrete....

Worsty
08-09-11, 17:29
Bros who took standchart's 0.55%, 0.55%, 0.65%... How many years of fire insurance did you get? What is the penalty for early redemption?

4 yrs, no lock in but whatever amount that's not disbursed have a 1% penalty.

Laguna
08-09-11, 17:30
i am just surprised tat ur sentiment changed within 1wk
...bot 2 units somemore

mabe u noe something tat we dont? can share?:)

This is a rather complex question, and let me try

1. two units costing S$1.5m is not a very difficult decision to make. still affordable. The new babies dun weigh so much to my asset allocation.

2. seeing so many properties, it is getting much more difficult for me to buy one, in other words, getting much more picky.

3. Price is attractive.

If follow the heat of the market, u know the MM. The ppl buying MM are providing great cushion to the one-bedroom and the SOHO. Everything being equal, this project is outshine all the MM units, including the price and I expect better yield as well.

I dun think there is anymore cooling measures.

Of course, there are many other macro economy reasons. Western will inflat their debts away, inflation will remind high...interest rate will low...and where is the flow hot money? Greece most likely will be out of EU...

anyway, I still stay very liquid currently...

mygeemeel
08-09-11, 17:57
Buying two units will have second unit kena 40% downpayment?

iwantgizmos
08-09-11, 18:31
Buying two units will have second unit kena 40% downpayment?
wow. :scared-4:

DC33_2008
08-09-11, 21:25
Pay Cash. :)
Buying two units will have second unit kena 40% downpayment?

devilplate
08-09-11, 23:28
Buying two units will have second unit kena 40% downpayment?
He oredi got multiple ppty

maisonjai
08-09-11, 23:52
he fry ppty in 香港 too

ysyap
09-09-11, 00:04
Pay Cash. :)Paying cash is certainly not the way to go when current property prices are so high and bank interest rates are at record lows. Diversify is the way to go! :D

mygeemeel
09-09-11, 00:07
I want to make friends with people with multiple properties. Those who only own one, please work harder. :D

Geylang OKT
09-09-11, 00:47
I want to make friends with people with multiple properties. Those who only own one, please work harder. :D

In the first place, are you a plug or socket? :D :D :D

Geylang OKT
09-09-11, 00:50
This place under Pritnam Singh (WP).
Another gd reason to buy? :D

Will it depreciate in value soon? :scared-4: :scared-4: :scared-4: :scared-4: :scared-4:

mygeemeel
09-09-11, 00:51
In the first place, are you a plug or socket? :D :D :D

I have plug (rear) and I have socket (front). :tongue3:

Geylang OKT
09-09-11, 00:52
I have plug (rear) and I have socket (front). :tongue3:

Nice :D :D :D :D

mygeemeel
09-09-11, 00:56
4 yrs, no lock in but whatever amount that's not disbursed have a 1% penalty.

Did you take 1 or 2 months sibor?

GSLJ
09-09-11, 02:05
In the first place, are you a plug or socket? :D :D :DLOL...that's a nice one!

Wonder if any sockets here or all only plugs... or is it the other way round?:p :p :p

DC33_2008
09-09-11, 08:47
Just to imply that Laguna is filthy rich. Rich will leverage on the banks' money to become richer.
Paying cash is certainly not the way to go when current property prices are so high and bank interest rates are at record lows. Diversify is the way to go! :D

Tripp
09-09-11, 09:54
TodayOnline, 9 Sep 11

http://imcmsimages.mediacorp.sg/cmsfileserver/showimageCC.aspx?&f=1862&img=1862_465388.jpg

Ad tagline reads: "Top selling project in August. More than 480 units sold."

Translates to about 64.2% sold.

Laguna
09-09-11, 10:15
SCB offers promotion pack for this project, ending this month.
PM me if ur keen.....

Worsty
09-09-11, 10:28
Did you take 1 or 2 months sibor?

1 month.

10 chars

mygeemeel
09-09-11, 11:01
SCB offers promotion pack for this project, ending this month.
PM me if ur keen.....

No need to PM bro. Just announce here. Im sure everyone here wants to know.

DC33_2008
09-09-11, 11:15
BUC and specifically for this project.
1 month.

10 chars

Tripp
10-09-11, 00:42
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 08 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 08 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(08Sep2011).pdf (http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat%2808Sep2011%29.pdf)

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (9 left; 11 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (4 left; 16 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (3 left; 27 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (6 left; 34 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (launched on 5 Sep - no sales figures yet)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 28 units
Total Townhouses presumed sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310 (Total: 26 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 479 (out of 748; 64% sold)

Note:
* Press reports on 6 Sep 11 indicates 472 units sold with 548 units launched.
* Press adverts on 9 Sep 11 indicates that more than 480 units sold.
* Tower 24 launched on 5 Sep 11, but sales figures not available for accurate computation of total units sold.

GSLJ
10-09-11, 15:10
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 08 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 08 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(08Sep2011).pdf (http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat%2808Sep2011%29.pdf)

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (9 left; 11 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (4 left; 16 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (3 left; 27 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (6 left; 34 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (launched on 5 Sep - no sales figures yet)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 28 units
Total Townhouses presumed sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310 (Total: 26 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 479 (out of 748; 64% sold)

Note:
* Press reports on 6 Sep 11 indicates 472 units sold with 548 units launched.
* Press adverts on 9 Sep 11 indicates that more than 480 units sold.
* Tower 24 launched on 5 Sep 11, but sales figures not available for accurate computation of total units sold.


Thanks for the update.

Should be above 500 units sold after this weekend. :cheers6:

DC33_2008
10-09-11, 15:21
Wonder if TreasureTrove or EuHabitat will be winner for this month of sales.
Thanks for the update.

Should be above 500 units sold after this weekend. :cheers6:

ecimbew
10-09-11, 16:33
Wonder if TreasureTrove or EuHabitat will be winner for this month of sales.

Both would have contributed 1000 by end of this month. Woah... :scared-3: scared leh. Momentum is very strong despite uncertainty.

Tripp
10-09-11, 21:06
September 10, 2011
Lianhe Zaobao

http://property.zaobao.com.sg/pages7/private110910.shtml

“三合一”综合住宅区 时尚住宅新风潮?
黄少伟 (2011-09-10)

http://property.zaobao.com.sg/ssi/images6/private110910.jpg
据发展商透露,优和苑所推出的593个单位中,80%已经买出。大部分买家是新加坡人或永久居民,以专业人士和商人居多。

除了寻觅美食外,买卖房地产应该是新加坡人最热衷的活动之一。房子除了是栖身之所也是一个投资商品,大家自然都很关注房地产的最新动向,任何风吹草动牵动千万人心。

近期本地私人房地产界刮起了一阵“三合一”之风,假如你有留意报章广告的话,应该不难发现,本地最大的房地产发展商远东机构近期推出了两项新项目,颇具特色。

这些新项目分别是位于兀兰的Woodhaven和位于惹兰友诺士的优和(euHabitat)。远东机构称,Woodhaven是本 地第一个“综合住宅发展项目”,除了传统的共管公寓单位之外,也有共管排屋(townhouses)和小型家庭办公室(SOHO)单位,是一个“三合一” 新住宅概念。优和苑和Woodhaven相似,除了上述的三种住宅单位以外,它也将提供一间卧房的“时尚公寓”(suite)单位。

目前我国私宅发展项目分别是公寓、公寓结合排屋或小型家庭办公室单位。把这三种不同类别的住宅结合起来发展的,远东机构算是第一家。根 据远东机构的资料,这种新概念的发展结合了“多元的时尚住宅风格”,这些不同类型的单位将有一些共用设施,各类住户将有充裕的社交空间,整个社区将因其多 元化的特点而朝气蓬勃。

远东机构首席营运总裁谢文华表示,这些发展项目能满足不同类别的买主和他们的生活方式,这些人包括家庭、年轻夫妇、单身人士、专业人士 和居家企业家等。他说:“我们决定在一个发展项目内提供多样的住宅选择,这其中有许多原因。我们想为那些计划购买超过一个单位的人提供多一点选择。由于能 引起各类买家的兴趣,这些发展项目都具有长期的投资潜能。另外,这些发展地段相对也比较大,将有更多公共或私人的社交和娱乐空间。”

SOHO在本地更普及

http://property.zaobao.com.sg/ssi/images6/private110910aa.jpg
SOHO单位给人麻雀虽小五脏俱全的感觉。

58岁的画廊老板赵振强就是被这新颖的住宅概念所吸引,他看上的是优和苑的一个两间卧房的SOHO单位,售价超过100万元。赵振强认 为这类的综合住宅区是一个“大胆的概念”,将会吸引比较多年轻的专业人士入住。他计划利用住家单位摆放一些画作,当成一个小画廊来经营。赵振强透露,有4 名亲戚也购买了不同类型的单位。他说:“这个住宅概念很不错,因为我们虽然住在不同类型的房子,却又同在一个住宅区内,这感觉很特别,有点像住在甘榜的感 觉。”

另一名买家邝祥玲(46岁)则花了大约130万元购买了优和苑的一个三间卧房的公寓单位。她说:“和其他的私人公寓相比,我觉得这里会有比较多不一样的居民,他们来自各行业,孰知我可能还可以在这里结识到一个生意伙伴呢。”

远东机构透露,两个发展项目的销售成绩相当理想。在所推出的337个Woodhaven单位中,65%已卖出;至于优和苑,在593个推出单位中,80%也已经售出。大多数的买家都是新加坡人或永久居民,以专业人士和商人居多。

受访的房地产专家说,像远东机构这类的综合住宅概念其实在本地不算太新,上述的发展项目比较特别的地方,就是把小型家庭办公室同共管公 寓和排屋结合起来。此外,小型家庭办公室的地点通常都在市区或附近,这次远东机构则选择把SOHO建在市区以外。在本地,发展商并不能决定住宅单位的用 途,而是必须根据政府所规定的土地用途来进行发展。

宣传行销手法

市区重建局早前接受《海峡时报》访问时指出,所谓“SOHO”这个名字只是发展商所用的一个行销词,这和发展商获准发展的项目类别没有 关联。事实上,根据市区重建局的发展总蓝图,Woodhaven和优和苑的地点是被规划成住宅区,因此这些区内的小型家庭办公室并不能像商用地段的住宅一 样,进行各种商业活动。根据条例,假如私宅或组屋的屋主想在住家做生意的话,他们必须向市区重建局或建屋局申请准证。

国大房地产研究院(NUS Institute of Real Estate Studies)副院长程天富教授解释:“SOHO是一个设计成商业或办公室的单位,备有厨房和厕所以满足业主和企业的需求。SOHO的业主不需要申请商 用准证,他们也可以把单位注册为企业地址。”

程天富教授说,小型家庭办公室概念在我国并不新,自2004年以来,本地相继推出了许多这类型的房地产项目,例如 SOHO@Central或者The Pier。SOHO的概念在其他大城市如伦敦、纽约、北京和东京等广受欢迎,由于这些都市的办公室租金和房租都很贵,许多小企业家负担不起,因此他们对相 对便宜的SOHO趋之若鹜。

由于SOHO结合了居住和办公空间,因此和同面积的公寓单位相比,它的租金回报会比较高。另外,这类单位的室内布置通常有较大的伸缩性,可以根据屋主的需求而改变。有这么多好处,精明的买家当然就愿意付高价来购买。

在家办公 组屋更便宜

http://property.zaobao.com.sg/ssi/images6/private110910a.jpg
“三合一”综合住宅区里的公寓单位也有分大小,这是Woodhaven较大的单位。(远东机构提供图片)

欣乐国际(SLP)执行董事麦俊荣认为,远东机构所用的“SOHO”名词只是一种宣传行销手法。“这是发展商抬高价钱的一种创新的手法。我觉得有些小型家 庭办公室的单位其实都很小,类似‘鞋盒公寓’(shoebox apartment)。你如果想在家里办公的话,在组屋也可以这样做,而且价钱更便宜。至于这类住宅区将出现一个朝气蓬勃的社区,我认为这也是宣传手法。 一个住宅区是否富有朝气是看它的居民而定,不是你把三种不同类型的住宅建在一起,你就能营造出这种氛围。”

麦俊荣说:“假如一个小型家庭办公室的生意越做越大,每天有陌生人进进出出,保安人员将面对一些问题,公寓居民也会有所不满。”

对于这类私人综合住宅区的未来,麦俊荣持保留看法。他说:“我不确定这个潮流能持续多久,我认为这类房地产项目的需求不多,市场无法吸收。只有时间能够证明它的可行性。”

程天富教授指出,小型家庭办公室主要针对的是那些想创业的年轻夫妇,它不能取代传统的办公室和私人公寓,因此也不会占据太大的市场。他预测说:“我们将来可能在区域中心(regional centres)的商业和娱乐地段附近看到更多这类型的项目。”

远东机构的谢文华对前景抱有信心,他认为这类发展将成为一种潮流,并能为未来的私宅发展提供参考。他解释:“增加的人口,改变中的人口 结构和民众期望,这些都在引导买家寻求能满足他们广泛功能和生活需求的新居住环境。地点永远是买家和投资者的一个重要考量,不过这个日益成熟的市场也要求 住宅区在富有创意和独特性的同时,能更具多元性以及能在广大社区内促进感情联络。”

不管你是否同意综合住宅区将成为未来的私宅发展趋势,对远东机构而言,这个概念已经得到客户的肯定。远东机构透露它目前计划在东海岸推出另一项新的永久地契发展项目,同样是结合小型家庭办公室、公寓和排屋,看来这阵“三合一”的住宅风还会吹好一段日子。


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iwantgizmos
10-09-11, 21:12
for the convenience of our non-chinese readers....

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fproperty.zaobao.com.sg%2Fpages7%2Fprivate110910.shtml

bargain hunter
10-09-11, 23:26
euhabitat would have booked 300 to 400+ units for AUG sales. while ATT only started selling in sep.


Wonder if TreasureTrove or EuHabitat will be winner for this month of sales.

DC33_2008
11-09-11, 11:15
ATT will likely to be the star performer of SEP sales. Fortunately, FEO launches theirs in Aug.
euhabitat would have booked 300 to 400+ units for AUG sales. while ATT only started selling in sep.

Tripp
11-09-11, 19:26
Have some updates to share, after dropping by the showroom in the evening.

Price boards for the following towers are displayed:

Condos
Tower 2: 14 units sold, 3 units reserved, 3 units available
Tower 3: 16 units sold, 1 unit reserved, 1 available, 2 shops reserved
Tower 12: 25 units sold, 2 units reserved, 3 units available
Tower 27: 6 units sold, 2 units reserved, 12 units available

Suites
Tower 19: 34 units sold, 3 units reserved, 3 units available

SOHOs
Tower 24: 7 units sold, 6 units reserved, 32 units available
Tower 26: 17 units sold, 1 unit reserved, 10 units available, 1 clubhouse, 1 shop

Townhouses
2 units sold, 1 unit reserved, 3 units available

Star-Buy Special
Tower 1 (Condo): 2 units available
Tower 15 (Condo): 1 unit sold, 1 unit available
Tower 22 (SOHO): 1 unit sold

Tripp
11-09-11, 19:53
Based on the above figures, and combined with the latest FEO pricelist dated 8 Sep, this should be the latest estimated sales tally as at 11 Sep evening.

GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units launched: 593
Total units sold (only include "sold" tags): 494 (66% sold)
Total units sold (include "reserved" & "sold" tags): 513 (68.6% sold)

GSLJ
12-09-11, 22:00
Based on the above figures, and combined with the latest FEO pricelist dated 8 Sep, this should be the latest estimated sales tally as at 11 Sep evening.

GUESSTIMATED TALLY
Total units available: 748
Total units launched: 593
Total units sold (only include "sold" tags): 494 (66% sold)
Total units sold (include "reserved" & "sold" tags): 513 (68.6% sold)Thanks for update.

The latest pricelist is out. :)

http://www.fareast.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(11Sep2011).pdf

Laguna
12-09-11, 22:50
Tower 24 is not included in the price list as the sales been suspended.
Under nego for bulk purchase

Tripp
12-09-11, 23:02
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 11 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 11 Sep 2011:[/URL]
http://www.fareast.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(11Sep2011).pdf (http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat%2808Sep2011%29.pdf)

[U]Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (6 left; 14 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (2 left; 28 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (6 left; 34 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (all unsold units reserved by Chinese Pty Grp)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 486 (out of 748; 65% sold)
Total units presumed sold (if regard Tower 24 as fully sold): 531 (71% sold)

Note:
* Tower 1 available units (#01-01, #01-04) both tagged as STARBUYS
* Tower 24 sales suspended - Chinese property group to buy all remaining unsold units
* Some Townhouses units launched (Units 322, 324, 326, 328, 330, 332) but not reflected in latest pricelist - hence did not compute their sales status.

Tripp
12-09-11, 23:10
sorry double post - trigger happy fingers

Tower 27 also launched but not listed in pricelist - hence did not compute sales status as well.

DC33_2008
13-09-11, 08:27
Chinese property group going to rent out to Chinese Students with rich parents coming to singapore to study?


LATEST UPDATE AS AT 11 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 11 Sep 2011:
http://www.fareast.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(11Sep2011).pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (6 left; 14 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (2 left; 28 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (6 left; 34 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (all unsold units reserved by Chinese Pty Grp)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 486 (out of 748; 65% sold)
Total units presumed sold (if regard Tower 24 as fully sold): 531 (71% sold)

Note:
* Tower 1 available units (#01-01, #01-04) both tagged as STARBUYS
* Tower 24 sales suspended - Chinese property group to buy all remaining unsold units
* Some Townhouses units launched (Units 322, 324, 326, 328, 330, 332) but not reflected in latest pricelist - hence did not compute their sales status.

Tripp
13-09-11, 14:37
Chinese property group going to rent out to Chinese Students with rich parents coming to singapore to study?

This news was fresh out of the oven coming from Laguna. I think he should be pretty well informed, hence I have put it in for compilation.

In fact when I was at the showroom last Sunday, I saw the sales boards for both Towers 24 and 27. Some units were already pre-sold. But they were not listed in the latest FEO pricelist.

FEO China Property Tour Group will be coming to SG on 22-24 Sep. F1 is in town from 23-25 Sep as well.

Hopefully the group can wipe out all remaining units in EuHabitat, and possibly The Seawind. I believe FEO are targetting the Townhouse sales to these group of foreign buyers.

F1 race cars to burn rubber, FEO Chinese buyers to burn RMB... :spliff:

browser
13-09-11, 15:12
This news was fresh out of the oven coming from Laguna. I think he should be pretty well informed, hence I have put it in for compilation.

In fact when I was at the showroom last Sunday, I saw the sales boards for both Towers 24 and 27. Some units were already pre-sold. But they were not listed in the latest FEO pricelist.

FEO China Property Tour Group will be coming to SG on 22-24 Sep. F1 is in town from 23-25 Sep as well.

Hopefully the group can wipe out all remaining units in EuHabitat, and possibly The Seawind. I believe FEO are targetting the Townhouse sales to these group of foreign buyers.

F1 race cars to burn rubber, FEO Chinese buyers to burn RMB... :spliff:

Good luck to those who bought this project. You will not be able to cook curry anymore.

devilplate
13-09-11, 16:17
Good luck to those who bought this project. You will not be able to cook curry anymore.
Better den having neighbours cooking curry everyday rite?:p

blackpepperj
13-09-11, 17:03
This project will be extremely noisy, from PIE and from residents.

fclim
13-09-11, 18:11
This news was fresh out of the oven coming from Laguna. I think he should be pretty well informed, hence I have put it in for compilation.

In fact when I was at the showroom last Sunday, I saw the sales boards for both Towers 24 and 27. Some units were already pre-sold. But they were not listed in the latest FEO pricelist.

FEO China Property Tour Group will be coming to SG on 22-24 Sep. F1 is in town from 23-25 Sep as well.

Hopefully the group can wipe out all remaining units in EuHabitat, and possibly The Seawind. I believe FEO are targetting the Townhouse sales to these group of foreign buyers.

F1 race cars to burn rubber, FEO Chinese buyers to burn RMB... :spliff:

Such bulk buying should be banned by the government. It encourages enclaves to form within the project. To live with multi-racial Singaporeans is okay. We all have the same culture and English language, regardless. But, to live with a whole bunch of foreigners in an ENTIRE block is a NO NO.:tsk-tsk: What if they all gang up if you make a complaint about the noise or some other unacceptable habits?

hyenergix
13-09-11, 18:22
Such bulk buying should be banned by the government. It encourages enclaves to form within the project. To live with multi-racial Singaporeans is okay. We all have the same culture and English language, regardless. But, to live with a whole bunch of foreigners in an ENTIRE block is a NO NO.:tsk-tsk: What if they all gang up if you make a complaint about the noise or some other unacceptable habits?

Chinese probably going to appoint agent to rent out or subsale. They have e holding power.

GSLJ
13-09-11, 20:12
This news was fresh out of the oven coming from Laguna. I think he should be pretty well informed, hence I have put it in for compilation.

In fact when I was at the showroom last Sunday, I saw the sales boards for both Towers 24 and 27. Some units were already pre-sold. But they were not listed in the latest FEO pricelist.

FEO China Property Tour Group will be coming to SG on 22-24 Sep. F1 is in town from 23-25 Sep as well.

Hopefully the group can wipe out all remaining units in EuHabitat, and possibly The Seawind. I believe FEO are targetting the Townhouse sales to these group of foreign buyers.

F1 race cars to burn rubber, FEO Chinese buyers to burn RMB... :spliff:Yeah!

Hope China power comes and buys up all the remaining units! :cheers6:

DC33_2008
13-09-11, 20:23
Good luck to owners off Eu Habitat.

Worsty
13-09-11, 20:39
Yeah!

Hope China power comes and buys up all the remaining units! :cheers6:

What's the benefit of a 100% sold out development within 1-2 months of official launch as opposed to say, one taking until TOP to sell it all off?

Laguna
13-09-11, 21:59
This project will be extremely noisy, from PIE and from residents.

yes, agreed
but there are few units with good X factors.

It is interesting that FEO has the star buy to move the so so units...

azeoprop
13-09-11, 22:05
What's the benefit of a 100% sold out development within 1-2 months of official launch as opposed to say, one taking until TOP to sell it all off?

Last time when a project is 100% sold, people start flipping. But now cannot liaoz, it will disappear from the radar for the next 4 years.

Vs one that sells slowly till TOP to sell out, the developer can slowly increase the price for the remaining units, hence u can see rise in valuation over time.
:beats-me-man:

Worsty
13-09-11, 22:11
Last time when a project is 100% sold, people start flipping. But now cannot liaoz, it will disappear from the radar for the next 4 years.

Vs one that sells slowly till TOP to sell out, the developer can slowly increase the price for the remaining units, hence u can see rise in valuation over time.
:beats-me-man:

So it's better to sell slowly till TOP these days then..at least from what i infer

Worsty
13-09-11, 22:46
Also, anyone have a clue why this development takes exceptionally long to TOP? Launches after this have an estimate TOP a year earlier.

Tripp
13-09-11, 23:01
Also, anyone have a clue why this development takes exceptionally long to TOP? Launches after this have an estimate TOP a year earlier.

TOP by 31 Dec 2016, and CSC by 31 Dec 2019.

FEO tender for construction is not out yet for EuHabitat. Is FEO waiting for lower construction costs?

I wonder what are the TOP/CSC dates for other FEO projects that launched recently (Woodhaven, Seastrand, Boathouse Residences).

Or are their preferred contractors busy working on the Waterfront projects?

Worsty
13-09-11, 23:06
TOP by 31 Dec 2016, and CSC by 31 Dec 2019.

FEO tender for construction is not out yet for EuHabitat. Is FEO waiting for lower construction costs?

I wonder what are the TOP/CSC dates for other FEO projects that launched recently (Woodhaven, Seastrand, Boathouse Residences).

Or are their preferred contractors busy working on the Waterfront projects?

Woodhaven , Seastrand and Boathouse Residences are 2015. Only euHabitat's 2016.

ecimbew
13-09-11, 23:22
TOP by 31 Dec 2016, and CSC by 31 Dec 2019.


It is only Sep 2011. So technically, those who bought units recently can still sell before TOP. 4 years SSD will not apply by then. But this is a 99LH land purchased by FEO in Sep/Oct 2010. You mean it takes nearly 10 years to CSC?! Oh...


Sep 7 2010 tender closed District 14 Jalan Eunos 99LH URA Far East Organization 444,136sqft 1.4 plot ratio GFA 621,793sqft $257.8m $415psf possible selling price $720-$760psf (SP:$850psf)

GSLJ
14-09-11, 00:37
What's the benefit of a 100% sold out development within 1-2 months of official launch as opposed to say, one taking until TOP to sell it all off?Once the project has sold most of the units, construction can start soon! :D

GSLJ
14-09-11, 00:58
TOP by 31 Dec 2016, and CSC by 31 Dec 2019.

FEO tender for construction is not out yet for EuHabitat. Is FEO waiting for lower construction costs?

I wonder what are the TOP/CSC dates for other FEO projects that launched recently (Woodhaven, Seastrand, Boathouse Residences).

Or are their preferred contractors busy working on the Waterfront projects? My current stay-

Land tenure from 1998
Expected TOP 2005
Legal completion 2008

Construction started a year later in 1999 and TOP in 2001!

For EuHabitat-

Land tenure from Dec 2010
Expected TOP- Dec 2016
Legal completion Dec 2019

So presume they start construction around end 2011, maybe can expect end 2013 or early 2014? :D

Once they tender out the contract and work starts, should take around 2-3 years to complete. This is a low rise 5 storey project, so maybe faster? :p

DC33_2008
14-09-11, 08:40
Did you see how long Clift by FEO TOP? 99LH will be reduced to 93 when TOP. :scared-1:
Woodhaven , Seastrand and Boathouse Residences are 2015. Only euHabitat's 2016.

flagship74
14-09-11, 10:00
My current stay-

Land tenure from 1998
Expected TOP 2005
Legal completion 2008

Construction started a year later in 1999 and TOP in 2001!

For EuHabitat-

Land tenure from Dec 2010
Expected TOP- Dec 2016
Legal completion Dec 2019

So presume they start construction around end 2011, maybe can expect end 2013 or early 2014? :D

Once they tender out the contract and work starts, should take around 2-3 years to complete. This is a low rise 5 storey project, so maybe faster? :p

Maybe slower that what all of you have anticipated. Manpower issue is the main issue i believe.:2cents:

Worsty
14-09-11, 10:45
Maybe slower that what all of you have anticipated. Manpower issue is the main issue i believe.:2cents:

I set my expectations at Dec 2015 TOP. Anything better is a bonus.

FEO do have a lot of developments running atm so manpower could be the issue...

Waterfront Wave 2012
Silversea 2014
Sound 2015
Waterfront Key, Gold 2015
Waterfront Isle 2016
Seastrand 2015
Boathouse 2015
Woodshaven 2016
euHabitat 2016

Just some off the top of my head...

GSLJ
14-09-11, 11:13
Maybe slower that what all of you have anticipated. Manpower issue is the main issue i believe.:2cents:Believe so, they have many projects ongoing.

GSLJ
14-09-11, 11:15
I set my expectations at Dec 2015 TOP. Anything better is a bonus.

FEO do have a lot of developments running atm so manpower could be the issue...

Waterfront Wave 2012
Silversea 2014
Sound 2015
Waterfront Key, Gold 2015
Waterfront Isle 2016
Seastrand 2015
Boathouse 2015
Woodshaven 2016
euHabitat 2016

Just some off the top of my head...A better gauge will only be when contract out and work starts.

Then should be around 2-3 years for completion.

Worsty
14-09-11, 11:18
A better gauge will only be when contract out and work starts.

Then should be around 2-3 years for completion.

How do we check if or when the contract is out? I guess, early sell out also allows the developer to work on it earlier since they can close the showflat and all....

iwantgizmos
14-09-11, 11:34
A better gauge will only be when contract out and work starts.

Then should be around 2-3 years for completion.
i don't mind the additional time for T.O.P, given it's reasonable....
and also the workmanship quality inside that matters....
if too rushed, might set back more time for rework or reconstruction....

DC33_2008
14-09-11, 11:44
A project of this nature can go for prefab. It should be fast and maintain quality just like what they used for the construction of HDB flats. Anyway prefab yard is not too far from here.
i don't mind the additional time for T.O.P, given it's reasonable....
and also the workmanship quality inside that matters....
if too rushed, might set back more time for rework or reconstruction....

devilplate
14-09-11, 12:49
all depends when FEO gona start work for this project

once they get started, expect roughly 3yrs to TOP:D

8cy and seastrand both not fully sold but oredi started work liao lor

GSLJ
14-09-11, 15:57
How do we check if or when the contract is out? I guess, early sell out also allows the developer to work on it earlier since they can close the showflat and all....Can get the info from your agent or call FEO directly to enquire? :D

GSLJ
14-09-11, 16:00
all depends when FEO gona start work for this project

once they get started, expect roughly 3yrs to TOP:D

8cy and seastrand both not fully sold but oredi started work liao lorThese 2 projects were launched earlier and before this, so quite normal.

Hope they start work for this project too soon! :D

Tripp
14-09-11, 18:55
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 13 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 13 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(13Sep2011).pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (5 left; 15 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (5 left; 35 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (8 left; 37 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (all unsold units reserved)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 489 (out of 748; 65.4% sold)
Total units presumed sold (if regard Tower 24 as fully sold): 534 (71.4% sold)

Note:
* Tower 24 sales suspended - Chinese property group to buy all remaining unsold units
* Tower 27 + new Townhouses units launched (Units 322, 324, 326, 328, 330, 332) but not reflected in latest pricelist - hence did not compute their sales status.

Laguna
14-09-11, 21:10
The amount of money that FEO spent on the advertisment of this project is unthinkable.
Can see the sales been slow down last weekend...not sure is it due to holding back of the balance of stocks

Stoney Stone Stone
14-09-11, 21:34
The amount of money that FEO spent on the advertisment of this project is unthinkable.
Can see the sales been slow down last weekend...not sure is it due to holding back of the balance of stocks

They rushed to queue at ATT.:doh:

GSLJ
14-09-11, 21:40
FEO holding back the launch of the balance towers and townhouses, maybe to sell during the China property tour on Sept 22nd?

China power may just come and sweep them all up! :cheers6:

Stoney Stone Stone
14-09-11, 21:46
FEO holding back the launch of the balance towers and townhouses, maybe to sell during the China property tour on Sept 22nd?

China power may just come and sweep them all up! :cheers6:

HUH......
EU HABITAT or CN HABITAT?
Haiz.......:doh:

Worsty
15-09-11, 10:02
HUH......
EU HABITAT or CN HABITAT?
Haiz.......:doh:


Doesn't really matter if it helps to sell out the development to hasten construction. Don't think they will be the ones staying in the premises anyway.

GSLJ
15-09-11, 14:40
Doesn't really matter if it helps to sell out the development to hasten construction. Don't think they will be the ones staying in the premises anyway.Went to have a look today.

Some construction guys there doing up the barricade for the surrounding land perimeter.

Think maybe going to start soon. :)

bargain hunter
15-09-11, 15:05
Top Seller status for Aug with 439 confirmed sold units.

rattydrama
15-09-11, 15:28
FEO holding back the launch of the balance towers and townhouses, maybe to sell during the China property tour on Sept 22nd?

China power may just come and sweep them all up! :cheers6:

actually FEO is doing this in many of their other projects, from CCR CLIF to OCR Woodheaven.

Worsty
16-09-11, 11:22
Went to have a look today.

Some construction guys there doing up the barricade for the surrounding land perimeter.

Think maybe going to start soon. :)

Keep us updated of the progress whenever you drive by!

You got a unit for home stay or investment purposes?

Tripp
16-09-11, 23:36
Took a detour and dropped by to take a look at the site this evening.

They have started to board up the perimeter fencing surrounding the minor roads. I did not see any machinery within the development compound yet.

Also checked the traffic noise; as the edge of the development is actually bounded by the slip road converging to PIE, and not the expressway itself, the noise is not as bad as it seems. In fact when I am around 30-40m away from the slip road, I can hardly hear any traffic noise.

Only dogs barking at me at the existing landed housing.

Worsty
16-09-11, 23:46
Took a detour and dropped by to take a look at the site this evening.

They have started to board up the perimeter fencing surrounding the minor roads. I did not see any machinery within the development compound yet.

Also checked the traffic noise; as the edge of the development is actually bounded by the slip road converging to PIE, and not the expressway itself, the noise is not as bad as it seems. In fact when I am around 30-40m away from the slip road, I can hardly hear any traffic noise.

Only dogs barking at me at the existing landed housing.

Tripp, your unit's just by the slip road?

Tripp
17-09-11, 00:16
My unit is a bit further away from the slip road; there are other towers nearest to the slip road which sort of shields my unit.

According to the URA Location and Control plans for the site, there is at least a 7.5m wide buffer at the boundary roads (including slip road to PIE), and at least 24m wide buffer where the slip road converges with the expressway.

http://www.ura.gov.sg/sales/JlnEunos/CL/JlnEunos-main%28L%29.htm

Stoney Stone Stone
17-09-11, 00:19
Took a detour and dropped by to take a look at the site this evening.

They have started to board up the perimeter fencing surrounding the minor roads. I did not see any machinery within the development compound yet.

Also checked the traffic noise; as the edge of the development is actually bounded by the slip road converging to PIE, and not the expressway itself, the noise is not as bad as it seems. In fact when I am around 30-40m away from the slip road, I can hardly hear any traffic noise.

Only dogs barking at me at the existing landed housing.

So beside the traffic noise, we still need to consider the dogs barking? :D

Worsty
17-09-11, 00:23
So beside the traffic noise, we still need to consider the dogs barking? :D

The PRCs over at Tower 24 will have them for dinner if they bark persistently :P

Stoney Stone Stone
17-09-11, 00:38
The PRCs over at Tower 24 will have them for dinner if they bark persistently :P

Hope the Dogs never bark in the rainy day.
Fortunately, Singapore no snowing.....:p

Worsty
17-09-11, 01:02
Stoney stone stone, you bought for stay or investment?

yjcai
17-09-11, 01:04
dream a dream

dtrax
17-09-11, 01:19
dream a dream

dream to be a caitao

Tripp
17-09-11, 02:03
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 15 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 15 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(15Sep2011).pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (5 left; 15 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (4 left; 36 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (8 left; 37 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (all unsold units reserved)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 490 (out of 748; 65.5% sold)
Total units presumed sold (if regard Tower 24 as fully sold): 535 (71.5% sold)

Stoney Stone Stone
17-09-11, 03:07
Stoney stone stone, you bought for stay or investment?

To stay but not EU Habitat.

Tripp
17-09-11, 09:42
TodayOnline, 17 Sep 11

http://imcmsimages.mediacorp.sg/cmsfileserver/showimageCC.aspx?375&300&f=1900&img=1900_479654.jpg

Ad tagline reads: "Top selling project in August. Over 500 units sold."

Translates to about 66.8% sold. FEO has managed to sell two-thirds of the development in 1.5 mths.

439 units sold in Aug + at least 61 units sold as of mid Sep. FEO China Property tour group will arrive next week. We shall see if FEO manages to move a few more units by the end of the month.

Worsty
17-09-11, 10:35
To stay but not EU Habitat.

Where'd you get?

Stoney Stone Stone
17-09-11, 12:19
Where'd you get?

Waterview.
EU Habitat came late by 9 mths.:)

Worsty
17-09-11, 12:32
Waterview.
EU Habitat came late by 9 mths.:)

Ah..was looking at that and arc myself...Decided to go with euHabitat for it's proximity to D15 without too much premium. Easier to get around to all my friends (from joo chiat, telok kurau, Siglap , etc).

Will take a while longer before it's up though. Haven't even started construction. Waterview's construction going full steam ahead atm.

GSLJ
17-09-11, 13:09
Keep us updated of the progress whenever you drive by!

You got a unit for home stay or investment purposes?No prob, will update progress whenever I pass by! :)

Not decided, bought for investment/stay. When TOP if nicely done up, may just move in to stay! :p

GSLJ
17-09-11, 13:13
Took a detour and dropped by to take a look at the site this evening.

They have started to board up the perimeter fencing surrounding the minor roads. I did not see any machinery within the development compound yet.

Also checked the traffic noise; as the edge of the development is actually bounded by the slip road converging to PIE, and not the expressway itself, the noise is not as bad as it seems. In fact when I am around 30-40m away from the slip road, I can hardly hear any traffic noise.

Only dogs barking at me at the existing landed housing.Before I bought my unit, I also went to the end road where the landed houses are to check on sound level from PIE.

It is actually a slip road with later part converging to PIE, so really no issue. :)

GSLJ
17-09-11, 13:20
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 15 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 15 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(15Sep2011).pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (5 left; 15 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (4 left; 26 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (4 left; 36 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (8 left; 37 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (all unsold units reserved)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (11 left; 19 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 490 (out of 748; 65.5% sold)
Total units presumed sold (if regard Tower 24 as fully sold): 535 (71.5% sold)Thanks for the info.

Looking at the figures and based on launched units only, I would say already about 90% sold!

But FEO still not releasing new towers and selling slowly? Should be waiting for the China property tour. :p

GSLJ
17-09-11, 13:33
Ah..was looking at that and arc myself...Decided to go with euHabitat for it's proximity to D15 without too much premium. Easier to get around to all my friends (from joo chiat, telok kurau, Siglap , etc).

Will take a while longer before it's up though. Haven't even started construction. Waterview's construction going full steam ahead atm.Went to view the Arc too, just next to a Caltex station.

For Arc, pricing wise quite reasonable, like the cabanas with private car park lot. But EC project, so not for me. Directly opposite is Waterview, never go in to view showflat so no idea.

Based on location, Eu will be nearer to town, east coast and all the good food around the area. Also, a resort style low rise project which should be more comfortable if for stay. :p

Worsty
17-09-11, 13:49
Went to view the Arc too, just next to a Caltex station.

For Arc, pricing wise quite reasonable, like the cabanas with private car park lot. But EC project, so not for me. Directly opposite is Waterview, never go in to view showflat so no idea.

Based on location, Eu will be nearer to town, east coast and all the good food around the area. Also, a resort style low rise project which should be more comfortable if for stay. :p

EC's 30k grant is tempting though...that would also meant i need to get married..haha

The carbana units i reckon should be nice if one converts the private car park space into another room ala a garage/home entertainment rooms making it 3 rooms in total, at 500+ psf , private garden just outside and almost the gym to your own usage since it's at the top of the multi storey carpark. Afterwhich, you park your car elsewhere with the common lots :D

Hmmm..maybe should have gotten one..hahaha but only 8 units and to be ballot.

No worries, i'm happy with my unit over here. Also got it for the resort feel especially the ground floor units.

DC33_2008
17-09-11, 17:01
Noise level is usually lower at ground level as they are deflected at that height by concrete structure of trees along the expressway. However, it will get louder when you are at the fifth floor. It will be louder even at night when the background noise is lower with the engine ramming from the cars and worst still the motor-cycle. Go to the arte and you will know what I mean or an overhead bridge at the PIE.
Before I bought my unit, I also went to the end road where the landed houses are to check on sound level from PIE.

It is actually a slip road with later part converging to PIE, so really no issue. :)

GSLJ
17-09-11, 17:35
EC's 30k grant is tempting though...that would also meant i need to get married..haha

The carbana units i reckon should be nice if one converts the private car park space into another room ala a garage/home entertainment rooms making it 3 rooms in total, at 500+ psf , private garden just outside and almost the gym to your own usage since it's at the top of the multi storey carpark. Afterwhich, you park your car elsewhere with the common lots :D

Hmmm..maybe should have gotten one..hahaha but only 8 units and to be ballot.

No worries, i'm happy with my unit over here. Also got it for the resort feel especially the ground floor units.Ya, remember there was a recent case a couple couldn't get back deposit due to fallout. Getting a house shouldn't be the reason to hasten any marriage plans. :p

Not sure if you could convert the space into a ent room, but that would really be cool. Maybe put in a couple of pinball machines and a pool table?

No worries too, happy with my unit as well. :cheers1:

GSLJ
17-09-11, 17:43
Noise level is usually lower at ground level as they are deflected at that height by concrete structure of trees along the expressway. However, it will get louder when you are at the fifth floor. It will be louder even at night when the background noise is lower with the engine ramming from the cars and worst still the motor-cycle. Go to the arte and you will know what I mean or an overhead bridge at the PIE.Thanks for your input on the issue regarding noise level.

I am pretty sure all buyers at Eu would have considered this factor, before choosing the unit that suits them best and making the purchase.

DC33_2008
17-09-11, 17:47
It is good to have that expectation. My brother was staying at a condo near that place years ago and noise level was quite unbearable and keep window shut most of the time. Now, can be worst with the increase in traffic volume for the last 2/3 years.
Thanks for your input on the issue regarding noise level.

I am pretty sure all buyers at Eu would have considered this factor, before choosing the unit that suits them best and making the purchase.

DC33_2008
17-09-11, 17:47
It is good to have that expectation. My brother was staying at a condo near that place years ago and noise level was quite unbearable and keep window shut most of the time. Now, can be worst with the increase in traffic volume for the last 2/3 years.
Thanks for your input on the issue regarding noise level.

I am pretty sure all buyers at Eu would have considered this factor, before choosing the unit that suits them best and making the purchase.

Worsty
17-09-11, 18:07
Ya, remember there was a recent case a couple couldn't get back deposit due to fallout. Getting a house shouldn't be the reason to hasten any marriage plans. :p

Not sure if you could convert the space into a ent room, but that would really be cool. Maybe put in a couple of pinball machines and a pool table?

No worries too, happy with my unit as well. :cheers1:

That's for DBSS with rules written by private developers. EC's the fallen out couple will get back a substantial portion of the deposit.

My friend's sister got that same DBSS development and then the wedding didn't come thru. Also lost her 60k CPF money whereas the guy lost 60k cash. Wrote many appeal letters but nothing going on thus far. Worse thing is while all this is happening, she went to vote for MBT during May's election. Voted for the same people that caused you to lose 60k. Really no idea what she was thinking. Guess in a way, she deserves to lose her deposit. :doh:

Yeah, pool table, foosball table, poker table..ultimate bachelor pad..

GSLJ
17-09-11, 18:07
It is good to have that expectation. My brother was staying at a condo near that place years ago and noise level was quite unbearable and keep window shut most of the time. Now, can be worst with the increase in traffic volume for the last 2/3 years.LOL..you didn't advise your bro to reconsider staying there due to noise issue then?

Well, every project will have their pros and cons. What may be my criteria in making a purchase may not be yours. As long as each feels the pros does outweighs the cons, I reckon should be fine.

It's good to have such inputs, so buyers may set their expectations and know what they may be getting into. But whether if it's a concern to them, will only differ from persons. :)

GSLJ
17-09-11, 18:19
That's for DBSS with rules written by private developers. EC's the fallen out couple will get back a substantial portion of the deposit.

My friend's sister got that same DBSS development and then the wedding didn't come thru. Also lost her 60k CPF money whereas the guy lost 60k cash. Wrote many appeal letters but nothing going on thus far. Worse thing is while all this is happening, she went to vote for MBT during May's election. Voted for the same people that caused you to lose 60k. Really no idea what she was thinking. Guess in a way, she deserves to lose her deposit. :doh:

Yeah, pool table, foosball table, poker table..ultimate bachelor pad..DBSS still the same, hdb with no facilities right? Based on current pricing, won't you rather get a EC instead? :doh:

But really, now the price diff between EC and PC have shrunk. Look at those ECs bought previously with low price, now all huat already.

Hmmn...bachelor pad..right on bro! :cool:

Worsty
17-09-11, 18:31
DBSS still the same, hdb with no facilities right? Based on current pricing, won't you rather get a EC instead? :doh:

But really, now the price diff between EC and PC have shrunk. Look at those ECs bought previously with low price, now all huat already.

Hmmn...bachelor pad..right on bro! :cool:

Nonono..i think i wasn't clear enough. What i meant was, the case of the losing deposit is because it's DBSS, with rules written by private developers as HDB was too lazy to write rules and regulation hence no proper protection for if what you mentioned happened.

Of course i'll get an EC if it's about the same price as a DBSS :P

Laguna
17-09-11, 21:33
Dun under-estimate the noise population
I checked with FEO, they mentioned for Eu, a special type of window (double layer) I think, is being used, but not too sure is it for all units. Perhaps someone can check on this for me.

jitkiat
17-09-11, 22:22
Noise from PIE can be much worse at higher floor compared to lower floors, beyond 300m with blockage should be quite safe. Without blockage, at least 500m.

Tripp
17-09-11, 23:28
Do we usually need permission from MCST to install invisible grilles for the balcony?

http://www.legate.com.sg/

How about installing clotheslines that can extend out of the yard for drying of laundry?

http://www.ezziliving.com/?page_id=6

Laguna
18-09-11, 08:15
Do we usually need permission from MCST to install invisible grilles for the balcony?

http://www.legate.com.sg/

How about installing clotheslines that can extend out of the yard for drying of laundry?

http://www.ezziliving.com/?page_id=6

it depends on the MCST

Strictly disallow in my condo....I think shall disallow...then it will end up paying so much and stay in a HDB like place

DC33_2008
18-09-11, 09:31
LOL..you didn't advise your bro to reconsider staying there due to noise issue then?

Well, every project will have their pros and cons. What may be my criteria in making a purchase may not be yours. As long as each feels the pros does outweighs the cons, I reckon should be fine.

It's good to have such inputs, so buyers may set their expectations and know what they may be getting into. But whether if it's a concern to them, will only differ from persons. :) He has moved out long ago.How to bear with the noise. it is like continuous loud humming noise with sudden spit fm motorcycle.

DC33_2008
18-09-11, 09:47
Dun under-estimate the noise population
I checked with FEO, they mentioned for Eu, a special type of window (double layer) I think, is being used, but not too sure is it for all units. Perhaps someone can check on this for me.
Do up mean double glazed? Not cheap. Maybe for units really near PIE.

GSLJ
18-09-11, 12:48
Do up mean double glazed? Not cheap. Maybe for units really near PIE.Was told by the agent too that sound proof windows will be provided. Not sure if for all or only for units near PIE though.

Good if can have that, will sleep more soundly at night. :sleep:

DC33_2008
18-09-11, 13:42
Cannot be closing the window all the time. But open window will get noise and soot. :doh:
Was told by the agent too that sound proof windows will be provided. Not sure if for all or only for units near PIE though.

Good if can have that, will sleep more soundly at night. :sleep:

GSLJ
18-09-11, 15:21
Cannot be closing the window all the time. But open window will get noise and soot. :doh:Why need to close windows during daytime?

I think during the day still ok, at night when going to bed just close the windows. Anyway this is my usual routine, though my current stay is nowhere even facing any road! :p

DC33_2008
18-09-11, 21:06
Talk to those who stays near expressway. :) Close window even during the day. Noise can indirectly stress a person without the person knowing. It can be a chronic problem.
Why need to close windows during daytime?

I think during the day still ok, at night when going to bed just close the windows. Anyway this is my usual routine, though my current stay is nowhere even facing any road! :p

Kengar
18-09-11, 22:01
:D
Talk to those who stays near expressway. :) Close window even during the day. Noise can indirectly stress a person without the person knowing. It can be a chronic problem.

I lived nearly 30 years with my parents in front PIE Bedok North Area, opposite the Waterfront series.. The noise from PIE is noticable throughout the whole day if you pay attention to it.

But once you get used to it, it becomes normal background sound. For example in office you usually wont notice the sound of air-con until it is turned off in the evening :D .

I have since moved to Tampines (quieter area), and whenever I go back to my parents' place, the noise does get a bit irritating since I am not used to it anymore.

DC33_2008
19-09-11, 13:28
A good analogy will be like body odour. May not know it but people around can smell it. Hence, buyers may shy away from resale unit or tenant may ask for lower rent becos of the noise.
:D

I lived nearly 30 years with my parents in front PIE Bedok North Area, opposite the Waterfront series.. The noise from PIE is noticable throughout the whole day if you pay attention to it.

But once you get used to it, it becomes normal background sound. For example in office you usually wont notice the sound of air-con until it is turned off in the evening :D .

I have since moved to Tampines (quieter area), and whenever I go back to my parents' place, the noise does get a bit irritating since I am not used to it anymore.

Kengar
19-09-11, 13:54
A good analogy will be like body odour. May not know it but people around can smell it. Hence, buyers may shy away from resale unit or tenant may ask for lower rent becos of the noise.

Haha good one,,, we can extend it to bad breath too! :D

Stoney Stone Stone
19-09-11, 14:30
Haha good one,,, we can extend it to bad breath too! :D

Then, we extend more further.
Anyone staying near to Lorong Halus for last 10 years?
Any comment on the smell in 1st 2 years and last 2 years? :D

Worsty
19-09-11, 16:34
:D

I lived nearly 30 years with my parents in front PIE Bedok North Area, opposite the Waterfront series.. The noise from PIE is noticable throughout the whole day if you pay attention to it.

But once you get used to it, it becomes normal background sound. For example in office you usually wont notice the sound of air-con until it is turned off in the evening :D .

I have since moved to Tampines (quieter area), and whenever I go back to my parents' place, the noise does get a bit irritating since I am not used to it anymore.

Why is the noise issue a problem only for PIE and not ECP? Less busy and different vehicle type?

Wouldn't places like Mandarin Gardens, Laguna Park, Costa De Sol etc be affected too? Prices don't seem to be affected as they are located at good locations (good access to ECP, possible sea views, food haven, D15 etc) .

Just like how there will be people that is fine/indifferent with those 3 development because of their perceived good location, there will also be people that are fine/indifferent with the location over at euhabitat due to the location? (good access to PIE/KPE , near D15 and to the food haven etc).

My :2cents:

devilplate
19-09-11, 16:39
Why is the noise issue a problem only for PIE and not ECP? Less busy and different vehicle type?

Wouldn't places like Mandarin Gardens, Laguna Park, Costa De Sol etc be affected too? Prices don't seem to be affected as they are located at good locations (good access to ECP, possible sea views, food haven, D15 etc) .

Just like how there will be people that is fine/indifferent with those 3 development because of their perceived good location, there will also be people that are fine/indifferent with the location over at euhabitat due to the location? (good access to PIE/KPE , near D15 and to the food haven etc).

My :2cents:
Bcoz they got seaview to compensate for the noise and they r also highrise and able to walk to beach

Worsty
19-09-11, 16:44
Then, we extend more further.
Anyone staying near to Lorong Halus for last 10 years?
Any comment on the smell in 1st 2 years and last 2 years? :D

None that i know of..will run to the Lorong Halus wetlands from my camp every other day during my reservist morning PT sessions.

Quiet, nice place to jog. no smells as far as i'm concerned.

Worsty
19-09-11, 16:52
Bcoz they got seaview to compensate for the noise and they r also highrise and able to walk to beach

But euhabitat is also alot cheaper? Same next to expressway, no seaview, hence cheaper. The price would be the factor compensating for the noise.

Have only been to units at 10-20+ levels in the 3 developments i mentioned and it was quiet though (Guess the height helps). Still no experiences with the noise that other forumers have stated. Is it that bad? Guess i'll find out myself when this place TOPs. Hopefully mine is sheltered enough by the few towers and vegetation before the slip road towards PIE.

Keeping fingers crossed.

Laguna
20-09-11, 18:03
Checked with FEO, ALL units in the project come with doubled layer glass

Worsty
20-09-11, 21:41
Checked with FEO, ALL units in the project come with doubled layer glass

Sweet. Thanks Laguna. Looks like FEO offers substantially better furnishings compared to other developers at approximately the same selling price.

Tripp
20-09-11, 21:43
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 18 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 18 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(18Sep2011).pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (3 left; 27 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93 (launched for sale - no info on sales status)
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (3 left; 37 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (launched for sale - unsold units under negotiation for bulk discount)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (10 left; 20 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 500 (out of 748; 66.84% sold)

GSLJ
21-09-11, 05:48
:D

I lived nearly 30 years with my parents in front PIE Bedok North Area, opposite the Waterfront series.. The noise from PIE is noticable throughout the whole day if you pay attention to it.

But once you get used to it, it becomes normal background sound. For example in office you usually wont notice the sound of air-con until it is turned off in the evening :D .

I have since moved to Tampines (quieter area), and whenever I go back to my parents' place, the noise does get a bit irritating since I am not used to it anymore.It only goes to show, noise may only get to you if you let it...:p

GSLJ
21-09-11, 05:51
A good analogy will be like body odour. May not know it but people around can smell it. Hence, buyers may shy away from resale unit or tenant may ask for lower rent becos of the noise.LOL...or indian tenants may shy away too because can't cook curry? :p

GSLJ
21-09-11, 05:54
But euhabitat is also alot cheaper? Same next to expressway, no seaview, hence cheaper. The price would be the factor compensating for the noise.

Have only been to units at 10-20+ levels in the 3 developments i mentioned and it was quiet though (Guess the height helps). Still no experiences with the noise that other forumers have stated. Is it that bad? Guess i'll find out myself when this place TOPs. Hopefully mine is sheltered enough by the few towers and vegetation before the slip road towards PIE.

Keeping fingers crossed.No need wait for TOP.

Go to the end road where the landed houses are.Slip road converging to PIE.


I checked noise level for myself, pretty alright. :cool:

GSLJ
21-09-11, 05:59
Bcoz they got seaview to compensate for the noise and they r also highrise and able to walk to beach

LOL... what's the use for seaview or easy access to beach then, why you have supposingly blaring traffic noise day and night due to promixity of expressways as mentioned by some?

Highrise? Thought someone here mention noise level travel upwards? :p

GSLJ
21-09-11, 06:01
Sweet. Thanks Laguna. Looks like FEO offers substantially better furnishings compared to other developers at approximately the same selling price.Yup,

Better furnishing with lots of marbles, now with double layer windows as well.

Great news. :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

GSLJ
21-09-11, 06:10
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 18 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 18 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(18Sep2011).pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (3 left; 27 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (1 left; 29 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93 (launched for sale - no info on sales status)
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (3 left; 37 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (launched for sale - unsold units under negotiation for bulk discount)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (10 left; 20 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 500 (out of 748; 66.84% sold)

Thanks for update,

Looks like FEO still taking own sweet time to sell. Majority units sold already so no worries for them.

Condo balance 9 units,
One new tower launched.
Hold back 3 towers not launched

Suites balance 3 units
All towers launched

Soho balance 17 units
Tower 24 reserved
Hold back 2 towers not launched

Townhouses available: 51 units
Townhouses launched: 29 units
Townhouses balance 2 units
Hold back 22 units not launched

Laguna
21-09-11, 10:32
I spoke to them, FEO has hold back all the launches till next month. I am not sure whether they will launch for the coming China property tour or not. Look like they will.

Once the project is sold to this stage, it is more than breakeven and become self financing. There is no hurry for them to sell if they think the market is positive.

The discount has dropped to 12%+1% with no FV. Congrat to all who have bought....save quite a lot

Tripp
21-09-11, 10:47
FEO will really "huat" if they are able to sell the remaining 22 Townhouse units in EuHabitat to the Chinese.

devilplate
21-09-11, 10:57
FEO will really "huat" if they are able to sell the remaining 22 Townhouse units in EuHabitat to the Chinese.

the townhse really super overpriced.....fair value shd be just 6xxpsf instead of 900psf:hell-hath-no-fury:

DaytonaSS
21-09-11, 11:09
None that i know of..will run to the Lorong Halus wetlands from my camp every other day during my reservist morning PT sessions.

Quiet, nice place to jog. no smells as far as i'm concerned.

bro, do a goggle on it..........

Tripp
21-09-11, 11:13
the townhse really super overpriced.....fair value shd be just 6xxpsf instead of 900psf:hell-hath-no-fury:

I shudder to think how much FEO is going to price The Seawind Townhouses... FH @ D15.

Worsty
21-09-11, 11:35
bro, do a goggle on it..........

Hey DaytonaSS,

I read it (the links to the forums about the smell etc) all over in the ATT threads.

I'm just stating my personal experience and i'm not staying in that area so it's not about me being used to the smell already. Maybe it doesn't have that much of an impact early morn in the period i'm doing my reservist?

Just in case we're talking about different locations, my camp is over at Pasir Ris Farmway. I run towards the lorong Halus/Sungei Serangoon where the new park is at.

marktkt22
21-09-11, 14:47
Gd for noise insulation, like vacanza@east



Checked with FEO, ALL units in the project come with doubled layer glass

Worsty
21-09-11, 15:35
How's the furnishing and fittings for Vacanza@East? Bought a unit at euHabitat during the VVIP viewing before i even get a chance to take a look at the showflat of Vacanza@East.

Similar price, but freehold. Better value for money?

igoeast
21-09-11, 19:36
How's the furnishing and fittings for Vacanza@East? Bought a unit at euHabitat during the VVIP viewing before i even get a chance to take a look at the showflat of Vacanza@East.

Similar price, but freehold. Better value for money?

Vacanza@East is slightly more ex, need to walk a far bit if w/o car. Finishing wise i think Euhab is better, more modern feel, just my personel view. There is alot of condo around Vacanza which deter me from buying since i'm buying for investment and rental, so FH or not, doesn't really matter much. Likewise, Euhab with 748units, rental might be a problem when TOP if there is a lot of investors, which i believe so.

Anyway, already bought, so can't be bother to worry or compare whether i made a gd deal or not, there will always be new development in better location, with better quality or even cheaper price.

Worsty
21-09-11, 19:59
Vacanza@East is slightly more ex, need to walk a far bit if w/o car. Finishing wise i think Euhab is better, more modern feel, just my personel view. There is alot of condo around Vacanza which deter me from buying since i'm buying for investment and rental, so FH or not, doesn't really matter much. Likewise, Euhab with 748units, rental might be a problem when TOP if there is a lot of investors, which i believe so.

Anyway, already bought, so can't be bother to worry or compare whether i made a gd deal or not, there will always be new development in better location, with better quality or even cheaper price.


Thanks for replying. Just thought if it's FH, and since i'm getting for stay, i could just buy one and stay in it till i pass on etc whereas i'll probably need to sell after a while and move to another location if i had gotten a LH.

Tripp
21-09-11, 22:29
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 20 SEP 2011

Based on FEO's EuHabitat Available Units dated 20 Sep 2011:
http://www.feo.com.sg/FEOCorp.Upload/CMS/Pdf/Euhabitat(20Sep2011)_21sep.pdf

Condos
Tower 1: Stacks 01-04 (2 left; 18 presumed sold)
Tower 2: Stacks 05-08 (3 left; 17 presumed sold)
Tower 3: Stacks 09-12 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 4: Stacks 13-16 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 5: Stacks 17-20 (0 left; 20 presumed sold)
Tower 12: Stacks 21-26 (3 left; 27 presumed sold)
Tower 13: Stacks 27-32
Tower 14: Stacks 33-38 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 15: Stacks 39-44 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 16: Stacks 45-50 (0 left; 30 presumed sold)
Tower 27: Stacks 90-93 (launched for sale - no info on sales status)
Tower 28: Stacks 86-89
Tower 29: Stacks 83-85

Suites
Tower 17: Stacks 51-58 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 18: Stacks 59-66 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)
Tower 19: Stacks 67-74 (3 left; 37 presumed sold)
Tower 20: Stacks 75-82 (0 left; 40 presumed sold)

SOHOs
Tower 21: Stacks 94-101
Tower 22: Stacks 102-110 (0 left; 45 presumed sold)
Tower 23: Stacks 111-119 (7 left; 38 presumed sold)
Tower 24: Stacks 120-128 (launched for sale - unsold units under negotiation for bulk discount)
Tower 25: Stacks 129-134
Tower 26: Stacks 135-140 (10 left; 20 presumed sold)

Townhouses
Total Townhouses available: 51 units
Total Townhouses presumed launched: 29 units
Total Townhouses sold:
Units 256, 258, 260, 262, 264, 266, 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, 280, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 292, 294, 296, 300, 302, 304, 306, 310, 312 (Total: 27 units)
Townhouses available:
Units 298, 308 (Total: 2 units)

FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 501 (out of 748; 67% sold)

ecimbew
21-09-11, 22:36
Thanks for replying. Just thought if it's FH, and since i'm getting for stay, i could just buy one and stay in it till i pass on etc whereas i'll probably need to sell after a while and move to another location if i had gotten a LH.

Hmm but people love to enbloc so staying till very old age or pass to your offspring may not seem possible.

Worsty
22-09-11, 10:39
euHabitat may not have much enbloc potential unless they decides to move the airbase to increase the plot ratio which seems remotely possible :P

My consideration is that if i like the development after staying for a few years, i will not want to move but the lease rundown would force my hand.

Laguna
22-09-11, 10:45
euHabitat may not have much enbloc potential unless they decides to move the airbase to increase the plot ratio which seems remotely possible :P

My consideration is that if i like the development after staying for a few years, i will not want to move but the lease rundown would force my hand.

there is hardly any enbloc potential for all the newer projects where their plot ratio is fully used up and with very high density of build up.
Unless Govt change their master plan to intensify land usage

devilplate
22-09-11, 10:53
there is hardly any enbloc potential for all the newer projects where their plot ratio is fully used up and with very high density of build up.
Unless Govt change their master plan to intensify land usage

only possible when population hit 10mil:hell-hath-no-fury:

Worsty
22-09-11, 11:16
only possible when population hit 10mil:hell-hath-no-fury:

There's definitely land banks lying in the outskirts of Singapore but i can't see anyone willing to live in those areas unless accessibility to those areas as well as other infrastructures are vastly improved.

I think we can probably increase the population size to maybe 6mil by end of this decade but should we do it? I'm leaning more with no. Maybe 5.5mil for but even at that, much is required to improve the well being of the population as a result of the surge in density.

Wild Falcon
22-09-11, 11:48
I think northeast and east all built up to the faraway end liao like Pasir Ris and Sengkang and Punggol. The only vast landback available is further up northwest in the Mandai, Kranji, Sungei budoh area. But even then those are conservation areas for our farms and eco-tours.


There's definitely land banks lying in the outskirts of Singapore but i can't see anyone willing to live in those areas unless accessibility to those areas as well as other infrastructures are vastly improved.

I think we can probably increase the population size to maybe 6mil by end of this decade but should we do it? I'm leaning more with no. Maybe 5.5mil for but even at that, much is required to improve the well being of the population as a result of the surge in density.

DC33_2008
22-09-11, 12:30
There is still quite a bit of state land in the City Fringe area which garment is keeping for future sales. Good income for them.
I think northeast and east all built up to the faraway end liao like Pasir Ris and Sengkang and Punggol. The only vast landback available is further up northwest in the Mandai, Kranji, Sungei budoh area. But even then those are conservation areas for our farms and eco-tours.

hyenergix
22-09-11, 12:38
euHabitat may not have much enbloc potential unless they decides to move the airbase to increase the plot ratio which seems remotely possible :P

My consideration is that if i like the development after staying for a few years, i will not want to move but the lease rundown would force my hand.

Massive 99LH PCs supplies plus ECs in these few years. Unless beside MRT, could b hard to sell 10 years+ down e road.

Worsty
22-09-11, 13:18
Massive 99LH PCs supplies plus ECs in these few years. Unless beside MRT, could b hard to sell 10 years+ down e road.

So everyone living in LH now are going to be in trouble then? What about all those who got 99LH 20-30 yrs ago? I'm sure if you are willing to accept lower than market price, there'll be a buyer.

Laguna
22-09-11, 14:03
Discount is 11% wef today

congrats to all buyers

GSLJ
22-09-11, 16:05
Vacanza@East is slightly more ex, need to walk a far bit if w/o car. Finishing wise i think Euhab is better, more modern feel, just my personel view. There is alot of condo around Vacanza which deter me from buying since i'm buying for investment and rental, so FH or not, doesn't really matter much. Likewise, Euhab with 748units, rental might be a problem when TOP if there is a lot of investors, which i believe so.

Anyway, already bought, so can't be bother to worry or compare whether i made a gd deal or not, there will always be new development in better location, with better quality or even cheaper price.Went to view this project as well.

Quite far in, need to drive out for sure. Though FH, not selling too well initially. Average around 1050 psf.

GSLJ
22-09-11, 16:13
LATEST UPDATE AS AT 20 SEP 2011


FINAL GUESSTIMATED TALLY (based on pricelist only)
Total units available: 748
Total units presumed sold: 501 (out of 748; 67% sold)The ads on TV mentioned above 530 units sold till date.

So I think balance should be around 200 units due to unlaunch towers. :)