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Wah auntie..u still around ah!:D
Hi Humpty Dumpty, you still siting on the fence?
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flagship74
07-01-14, 22:11
Hi Humpty Dumpty, you still siting on the fence?
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luckily i did..wakakakaka..:D
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yesnomaybe
11-01-14, 22:13
Awesome photos !
Any idea of the TOP forecast??any news from developer?? TOP will be by block or whole development??it seems not much progress recently...thank you!
Nighttrain
20-01-14, 06:10
Any idea of the TOP forecast??any news from developer?? TOP will be by block or whole development??it seems not much progress recently...thank you!
So disappointed with my living room view..I actually paid so much money to see blk 105 air con compressor and underwear ....
So disappointed with my living room view..I actually paid so much money to see blk 105 air con compressor and underwear ....
Can share with us which unit you were from? Dont think any unit have such a facing...
Nighttrain
30-01-14, 14:00
Can share with us which unit you were from? Dont think any unit have such a facing...
#14 ...:doh::doh:
#14 ...:doh::doh:
relax bro, not that bad :sleep:
hi
like to ask the owner for the 2 bedder how your feel about the layout , because i have the same layout as your in other project ? becuase lots of project seldom have this type of layout .
13 JAN 2014 101 PETIR ROAD #XX-XX NEW SALE 1,518 STRATA 1,240 1,882,600 HDB
27 DEC 2013 101 PETIR ROAD #XX-XX NEW SALE 1,528 STRATA 1,163 1,777,500 HDB
2 DEC 2013 105 PETIR ROAD #XX-XX NEW SALE 1,711 STRATA 1,160 1,984,964 PRIVATE
units are moving again!
the wingtai sales team doesn't update any things for months. anybody care to update how many bigger unit left to go?
the wingtai sales team doesn't update any things for months. anybody care to update how many bigger unit left to go?
Per my calculation based on public info... 24 units remaining. Take this as maximum... if something sold but not updated yet
Per my calculation based on public info... 24 units remaining. Take this as maximum... if something sold but not updated yet
slow moving unit...
flagship74
14-02-14, 12:53
any idea of TOP date?
hearsay one more month:D
hearsay one more month:D
wah lau... too fast liao!
hearsay one more month:D
Hear from who? Still got 2 more stages of payment before TOP outstanding.
Has anyone paid till 55% already?
Hear from who? Still got 2 more stages of payment before TOP outstanding.
Has anyone paid till 55% already?
Paid 45% only.
The Foresque website was updated yesterday. 22 units still unsold. It also states that we can move in in 2nd Quarter 2014. I guess this should be the most accurate source of information. :cheers4::cheers4:
Paid 45% only.
But if your just pay 45% I think 2nd quarter 2014 is not possible to top
Nighttrain
23-02-14, 00:28
But if your just pay 45% I think 2nd quarter 2014 is not possible to top
Should be paying another payment on march
Should be paying another payment on march
Your are right bro, today got lawyer letter to pay 55%. Noticed the construction status has been updated...finally after so many months of 'bo chap' from developer. The last 4 bed room unit has been taken up and new photo uploaded for penthouse. TOP mid 2014...3 to 4 months to go...
Nighttrain
09-03-14, 20:21
[QUOTE=chueec;466061]Your are right bro, today got lawyer letter to pay 55%. Noticed the construction status has been updated...finally after so many months of 'bo chap' from developer. The last 4 bed room unit has been taken up and new photo uploaded for penthouse. TOP mid 2014...3 to 4 months to go...[/QUOTEtoday I went into tree house and take a closer look of the construction. They are building the club house and the car park already done..main entrance fencing very nice. But still cannot take it my living room view is air con compressors view
today I went into tree house and take a closer look of the construction. They are building the club house and the car park already done..main entrance fencing very nice. But still cannot take it my living room view is air con compressors view
are you TH resident? how come you can enter to see?
Today I went into tree house and take a closer look of the construction. They are building the club house and the car park already done..main entrance fencing very nice. But still cannot take it my living room view is air con compressors view[/QUOTE]
How's the security situation at Tree House? If guards always :sleep: tell me, I also want to take a look cos no friend there open house so no chance...though quite tempted to test the alertness of the guards at times.
Sad to hear that your unit living room' s view is air con compressors and underwears. I hope the other units on your stack don't see what you are seeing.
Your unit see underwear, my unit see bikini...at the TH pool side. Same same...it is not what you see but what you want to see. :cool:
Today I went into tree house and take a closer look of the construction. They are building the club house and the car park already done..main entrance fencing very nice. But still cannot take it my living room view is air con compressors view
How's the security situation at Tree House? If guards always :sleep: tell me, I also want to take a look cos no friend there open house so no chance...though quite tempted to test the alertness of the guards at times.
Sad to hear that your unit living room' s view is air con compressors and underwears. I hope the other units on your stack don't see what you are seeing.
Your unit see underwear, my unit see bikini...at the TH pool side. Same same...it is not what you see but what you want to see. :cool:[/quote]
if the guard can sleep that means the place is clean, not haunted.
Nighttrain
10-03-14, 19:35
are you TH resident? how come you can enter to see?
No 1..I used to stay in condo and I know all the excuse to go in. No. 2 due to my work I need to visit different condo every day. No.1 U can tell the guard drop off or pick up which they normally dun stop up..no.2. Take a taxi in..no.3 Google a blk and unit and give them the address which sometime they dun call if call no one ans. Than tell them ur friend waiting for u to swim at the pool. No. 4 meet agent to view house. Lastly go on Saturday and tell them u come to bbq.
Visited TH today. Very impressed with the landscape, to me is top class. I love trees, can see different types of trees there...no wonder call Tree House. No regret buying a unit facing it.
For Foresque, not too sure whether the trees will be as nice. Seeing a lot of coconut trees now...seems too many. Probably they were uprooted from Changi beach, I personally prefer exotic palm trees.
The Foresque entrance getting nicer each day...very unique design. The end result should be very impressive.
Nighttrain
11-03-14, 21:49
Visited TH today. Very impressed with the landscape, to me is top class. I love trees, can see different types of trees there...no wonder call Tree House. No regret buying a unit facing it.
For Foresque, not too sure whether the trees will be as nice. Seeing a lot of coconut trees now...seems too many. Probably they were uprooted from Changi beach, I personally prefer exotic palm trees.
The Foresque entrance getting nicer each day...very unique design. The end result should be very impressive.
Did u walk all the way to the front facing Eco ?Their rain forest is very impressive.by the way Wat excuse u use to go in?
No 1..I used to stay in condo and I know all the excuse to go in. No. 2 due to my work I need to visit different condo every day. No.1 U can tell the guard drop off or pick up which they normally dun stop up..no.2. Take a taxi in..no.3 Google a blk and unit and give them the address which sometime they dun call if call no one ans. Than tell them ur friend waiting for u to swim at the pool. No. 4 meet agent to view house. Lastly go on Saturday and tell them u come to bbq.
Thanks for the info. I will inform the guards to be more vigilant. If need to, or anything happened in TH, the resident of TH reserved the right to call the police to investigate any trespassing...wrongful entry in a private property.
Thanks for the info. I will inform the guards to be more vigilant. If need to, or anything happened in TH, the resident of TH reserved the right to call the police to investigate any trespassing...wrongful entry in a private property.
Hi Mastrix, u need help with this signboard? lol
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Did u walk all the way to the front facing Eco ?Their rain forest is very impressive.by the way Wat excuse u use to go in?
Where got rain forest at Tree House???
All your methods of entering involve telling lies (or excuses) except the taxi method. I am an honest person, tell lies face red :ashamed1:.
I just walk in... right under the nose of a security guard. If he ask me why enter, I was prepared to tell him that the place is nice, I want to take a look...the guard did not stop me...maybe I was in shorts and T-shirt and sweating (just came down from Bukit Timah hill top)...this is camouflage method we all learned during army.
Better stop here if not the guards may loose their rice bowls.
Visited TH today. Very impressed with the landscape, to me is top class. I love trees, can see different types of trees there...no wonder call Tree House. No regret buying a unit facing it.
For Foresque, not too sure whether the trees will be as nice. Seeing a lot of coconut trees now...seems too many. Probably they were uprooted from Changi beach, I personally prefer exotic palm trees.
The Foresque entrance getting nicer each day...very unique design. The end result should be very impressive.
The design of the fencing outside the guardhouse realiy weird. Like damaged by bulldozer.
Anybody has primary school going children? How are u going to settle the logistic problem after move in, transfer or take school bus?
Just drove past the entrance of foresque and saw a big truck filled with Mitsubishi electric boxes parking along the Petir road. The size of each box seems to fit a refrigerator. Probably kitchen is already done up and ready to move in the electrical appliances.
highroller
23-03-14, 22:30
Spoke to a worker last week. Heard the last of things to be done will be completed by the 15th of April. If everything is ok, will likely be ready for TOP by end June. Or at least that is what I heard from the Banglah.
Yes, v likely TOP in June 2014 based on the present progress status :)
Nighttrain
26-03-14, 22:56
Yes, v likely TOP in June 2014 based on the present progress status :)
Anyone received any letter from wintai to make payment.?
The metal fences at the entrance have been painted green. The road turning into the foyer is rather narrow. In future, Petir Road may be quite congested.
....If TOP is in June, looking at the way they go about doing the landscape it would probably be months before the landscape would look like proper garden, the plants are sparsely planted, unlike the neighbour which was transformed into lush greeneries almost immediately. Plus it is beginning to look like a coconut plantation with coconut trees all over the place.....pity as structurally it has so much potential.
Left, Right, Centre, Front and even Back all got coconut trees. I think if WingTai engage me to be landscape consultant, I close one eye still can give much better proposal.
I will choose small trees found in Bukit Timah Reserve to bend with the surrounding to give a Forest ambience in line with the name Foresque. Those trees chosen are so commonly found everywhere along roads...nothing special.
I think the only way out now is to start to love eating coconuts.
darkseed73
03-04-14, 13:09
Left, Right, Centre, Front and even Back all got coconut trees. I think if WingTai engage me to be landscape consultant, I close one eye still can give much better proposal.
I will choose small trees found in Bukit Timah Reserve to bend with the surrounding to give a Forest ambience in line with the name Foresque. Those trees chosen are so commonly found everywhere along roads...nothing special.
I think the only way out now is to start to love eating coconuts.
lol this is the most amusing statement i have read so far.
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Foresque Residences, please take comfort that this is not a condo project with the most coconut trees. There is another project with lagi more...seems to have only coconut trees and nothing else...
If you are lost in the SEA and got STRANDed on an island, what to expect? :cool:
At least, there is harmony between the name and the landscape.
Foresque Residences, please take comfort that this is not a condo project with the most coconut trees. There is another project with lagi more...seems to have only coconut trees and nothing else...
If you are lost in the SEA and got STRANDed on an island, what to expect? :cool:
At least, there is harmony between the name and the landscape.
the fencing design near entrance is real weird. ran out of idea.
the fencing design near entrance is real weird. ran out of idea.
The fence was originally upright till two super fat ladies sat on the left and right side.
Can you appreciate an art piece drawn by snails running over it? I can appreciate such creative art pieces...hence the crooked fence is not weird but super nice. Am I weird?? :OldFart:
The fence was originally upright till two super fat ladies sat on the left and right side.
Can you appreciate an art piece drawn by snails running over it? I can appreciate such creative art pieces...hence the crooked fence is not weird but super nice. Am I weird?? :OldFart:
I know why, the 2 spots left and right were reserved for planting 2 more coconut trees outside the entrance.
I know why, the 2 spots left and right were reserved for planting 2 more coconut trees outside the entrance.
If that is the case then I have the re-write my previous statement...
Left, Right, Centre, Front, Back and even Outside also have coconut trees.
Anyway, someone once suggested to change Petir Road to Pecan Road to keep the nuts road names in the neighbourhood...why nobody thought of Coconut Road. :confused:
the blocks are coming up nicely. :)
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hopefully the recent hot weather will subside to bring back the greens.
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Has anyone noticed the special effects on the balcony railings that resemble 'lighted piano keys'...they only appear at certain times of the day.
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I did not managed to get the picture in just now. Trying again...
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Nighttrain
17-04-14, 07:00
I did not managed to get the picture in just now. Trying again...
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Finally received letter to pay for the last 5% . Any one here can advice how long will it take for top?
Project now physically completed. TOP pending on statutory compliance. Process normally takes between 1 and 3 months.
Nighttrain
21-04-14, 06:22
Project now physically completed. TOP pending on statutory compliance. Process normally takes between 1 and 3 months.
Thanks for the reply. .will look forward to collect the key in a few months.:D
Asked the secuirty guard when TOP today, he told me 12 May. He seemed very affirmative. Funny thing this the Foresque sign still missing in action...No Sign Board condo?? Anyway...:cheers4::cheers4:
Asked the secuirty guard when TOP today, he told me 12 May. He seemed very affirmative. Funny thing this the Foresque sign still missing in action...No Sign Board condo?? Anyway...:cheers4::cheers4:
becos of the crooked fencing the signboard also need to follow its profile,
not easy to make.
becos of the crooked fencing the signboard also need to follow its profile,
not easy to make.
Sure boh, it's quite obvious it's gonna be on a straightforward sign on a cpncrete base....possibly ax grey as everything else....
Sure boh, it's quite obvious it's gonna be on a straightforward sign on a cpncrete base....possibly ax grey as everything else....
Signboard up!
Signboard up!
Did you see clearly...the RESIDENCES is cast in stone but the FORESQUE is cast on paper board...still not ready.
The night shift security guard very helpful, already provided good service to me before TOP. I was walking on the empty grass patch behind the bus stop last Tuesday night, then from a far I saw the security guard waving at me from the side fence shouting something that sounded like 'mistake'...initially I tot he wanted to tell me that the TOP date on 12 May he told me earlier was a mistake. I walked towards him and when I was nearer, I realised he was actually shouting 'Ssssnake!' instead. :scared-4: He said many BIG snakes were sighted in the vincinty and cautioned me to be careful. I turned my head to look at the surrounding dark grass patches, unfortunately, could not find any...that goes my snake soup supper.
The good service from the security guard somehow brightened my night and for a moment I forgot about the misery of the sight off coconut trees (that are not growing well till to date).
yesnomaybe
11-05-14, 23:33
Did you see clearly...the RESIDENCES is cast in stone but the FORESQUE is cast on paper board...still not ready.
The night shift security guard very helpful, already provided good service to me before TOP. I was walking on the empty grass patch behind the bus stop last Tuesday night, then from a far I saw the security guard waving at me from the side fence shouting something that sounded like 'mistake'...initially I tot he wanted to tell me that the TOP date on 12 May he told me earlier was a mistake. I walked towards him and when I was nearer, I realised he was actually shouting 'Ssssnake!' instead. :scared-4: He said many BIG snakes were sighted in the vincinty and cautioned me to be careful. I turned my head to look at the surrounding dark grass patches, unfortunately, could not find any...that goes my snake soup supper.
The good service from the security guard somehow brightened my night and for a moment I forgot about the misery of the sight off coconut trees (that are not growing well till to date).
Hahaha....never seen snakes there...only monkeys
Did you see clearly...the RESIDENCES is cast in stone but the FORESQUE is cast on paper board...still not ready.
The night shift security guard very helpful, already provided good service to me before TOP. I was walking on the empty grass patch behind the bus stop last Tuesday night, then from a far I saw the security guard waving at me from the side fence shouting something that sounded like 'mistake'...initially I tot he wanted to tell me that the TOP date on 12 May he told me earlier was a mistake. I walked towards him and when I was nearer, I realised he was actually shouting 'Ssssnake!' instead. :scared-4: He said many BIG snakes were sighted in the vincinty and cautioned me to be careful. I turned my head to look at the surrounding dark grass patches, unfortunately, could not find any...that goes my snake soup supper.
The good service from the security guard somehow brightened my night and for a moment I forgot about the misery of the sight off coconut trees (that are not growing well till to date).
Coconut tress?! You mean they planted coconut tress there? Hmmm... strange choice i must say...
Penthouses and Cabana units have really taken time to be sold. Still 19 units unsold as per Foresque sale site:
Cabana 3BR: 4 units
Cabana 3+S: 4 units
Penthouse 2BR: 1 unit
Penthouse 3BR: 7 units
Penthouse 3+S: 3 units
Did you see clearly...the RESIDENCES is cast in stone but the FORESQUE is cast on paper board...still not ready.
The night shift security guard very helpful, already provided good service to me before TOP. I was walking on the empty grass patch behind the bus stop last Tuesday night, then from a far I saw the security guard waving at me from the side fence shouting something that sounded like 'mistake'...initially I tot he wanted to tell me that the TOP date on 12 May he told me earlier was a mistake. I walked towards him and when I was nearer, I realised he was actually shouting 'Ssssnake!' instead. :scared-4: He said many BIG snakes were sighted in the vincinty and cautioned me to be careful. I turned my head to look at the surrounding dark grass patches, unfortunately, could not find any...that goes my snake soup supper.
The good service from the security guard somehow brightened my night and for a moment I forgot about the misery of the sight off coconut trees (that are not growing well till to date).
Possibly will be like 3d like TH, must say the grey structures that were erected as part of landscaping look like normal hdb finishing, sign of cutting corners due to rising cost, beside the plant types used for the development?
Possibly will be like 3d like TH, must say the grey structures that were erected as part of landscaping look like normal hdb finishing, sign of cutting corners due to rising cost, beside the plant types used for the development?
Read 3 times but dont understand what you are saying...your English is HDB standard.
Read 3 times but dont understand what you are saying...your English is HDB standard.
Haha I live in hdb mah, not in the plantation....cos no money o buy into one....but we got coconut tree also.
Read 3 times but dont understand what you are saying...your English is HDB standard.
.....actually hoh, not all hdb dwellers's English is as bad as mine, some are highly educated, perhaps you feel you are indeed superior now that you have upgraded to PC and look down on HDB dwellers...tsk tsk....
.....actually hoh, not all hdb dwellers's English is as bad as mine, some are highly educated, perhaps you feel you are indeed superior now that you have upgraded to PC and look down on HDB dwellers...tsk tsk....
What difference does it make if one is staying in HDB or in PC? What difference does it make if a person speaks good English or not?
What matters is if the person is gentleman or not? Does he have respect for others or not?
I will rather stay in an HDB, speak broken English and get respected by others, than stay in a PC, look down on others, make fun of them and lose respect!
Will we use the same language on face-to-face. Just because our identities are hidden, does it give us a right to compromise with our values?
What difference does it make if one is staying in HDB or in PC? What difference does it make if a person speaks good English or not?
What matters is if the person is gentleman or not? Does he have respect for others or not?
I will rather stay in an HDB, speak broken English and get respected by others, than stay in a PC, look down on others, make fun of them and lose respect!
Will we use the same language on face-to-face. Just because our identities are hidden, does it give us a right to compromise with our values?
Well say, a ray of hope....I agree with you, I just made objective comparison on the structure and landscaping but someone got personal and whack my "hdb english standard"..... if one cannot bear pain of people commenting on your purchase then don't read loh....
Nighttrain
15-05-14, 23:50
What difference does it make if one is staying in HDB or in PC? What difference does it make if a person speaks good English or not?
What matters is if the person is gentleman or not? Does he have respect for others or not?
I will rather stay in an HDB, speak broken English and get respected by others, than stay in a PC, look down on others, make fun of them and lose respect!
Will we use the same language on face-to-face. Just because our identities are hidden, does it give us a right to compromise with our values?
When is this building going to top? Every thing seem to complete and saw most unit light up at night for cleaning.
When is this building going to top? Every thing seem to complete and saw most unit light up at night for cleaning.
Last week I called Wing Tai, and they told me that it is expected 'within next couple of weeks'
But I hope you are aware that after the TOP they stagger the handover. So after TOP, you may get possession anytime from 1 week to roughly 8 weeks.
Many people jump into renovation work immediately after possession. After possession, first thing is to check for defects - Lights, water taps, water flow, flooring, wardrobes, accessories, door gaps etc. Once your renovation people move in, developer may not accept anything to do with flooring and walls. Also attend to your bidets immediately, if they are installed or you plan to instal. During initial phases, water pressure will be very high and the pipes will burst.
More tips in due course!
i just spoke with phillip from wingtai. he said that handover will be in about 2-3 months. i told him that for my unit, to please take his time - as much time as possible lol!
i just spoke with phillip from wingtai. he said that handover will be in about 2-3 months. i told him that for my unit, to please take his time - as much time as possible lol!
2-3 months????? I believe TOP inspection just happened on Monday.
There is no phase completion for the Project. Once TOP obtained, Architect will issue the stage completion certificate and Developer will send notice to your lawyers for 25% payment and 3 months advance maintenance fee. Upon payment, you will be able to collect your keys. Be patient! :cheers4:
Last week I called Wing Tai, and they told me that it is expected 'within next couple of weeks'
But I hope you are aware that after the TOP they stagger the handover. So after TOP, you may get possession anytime from 1 week to roughly 8 weeks.
Many people jump into renovation work immediately after possession. After possession, first thing is to check for defects - Lights, water taps, water flow, flooring, wardrobes, accessories, door gaps etc. Once your renovation people move in, developer may not accept anything to do with flooring and walls. Also attend to your bidets immediately, if they are installed or you plan to instal. During initial phases, water pressure will be very high and the pipes will burst.
More tips in due course!
From my friend's experience, you should write to developer for early appointment, just come out with reasonable excuses, you should get rostered ahead in the queue, do before others get wise to the tactic.....
There is no phase completion for the Project. Once TOP obtained, Architect will issue the stage completion certificate and Developer will send notice to your lawyers for 25% payment and 3 months advance maintenance fee. Upon payment, you will be able to collect your keys. Be patient! :cheers4:
Dear KF, I am not suggesting PHASED COMPLETION. You are right that TOP is on the same day and they will demand the payment also on the same day, but after that they will be sending handover letters to collect keys in a phased way. They may start it in one to two weeks from TOP date and spread over 4 to 6 weeks.
And then, once you have collected the keys, you will need to provide them defects list. They may take upto one week to visit to look at the defects and legally have one month to rectify them. You may not be able to attend to your renovation work until defects are rectified, unless of course, you are willing to proceed if the defects are minor.
So, my guess work is that one has to wait for roughly two months between the TOP and the move in date, even if you are not planning any renovation.
Thats my understanding but I could be wrong.
From my friend's experience, you should write to developer for early appointment, just come out with reasonable excuses, you should get rostered ahead in the queue, do before others get wise to the tactic.....
You mean write a letter and mail it to Wing Tai Holding? Because it indeed isn't easy to find an email address of Wing Tai instead of their Sales Team's.
Even if you mail the letter to them, not sure if they have like different project teams which handles different properties... Will they pass to the right person(Foresque) to take care of your case then?
You mean write a letter and mail it to Wing Tai Holding? Because it indeed isn't easy to find an email address of Wing Tai instead of their Sales Team's.
Even if you mail the letter to them, not sure if they have like different project teams which handles different properties... Will they pass to the right person(Foresque) to take care of your case then?
haha... nowadays most office practice ghost operation.
examples, telco and banks make us talk to machine and go round the bush.
haha... nowadays most office practice ghost operation.
examples, telco and banks make us talk to machine and go round the bush.
Right! So exactly who to write to? who to call?( not keen in calling any of the agents of Huttons or sales hotline whos trying to play safe and give you a much later rough date of the TOP...)
Do any wise ppl know a more direct way to communicate with them on the matter? I mean they must have a schedule made to the Physical TOP, cleaning, handover and send the notice of final stage's payment etc, etc.
Or probably we can just head down to the company itself n look for certain personnel.
As I mentioned previously, upon TOP issued by BCA, architect will issue completion certificate and Developer will write to buyers' lawyers to advise payment and maintenance fees within 2 weeks.
In the letter, Developer will also state the contact person for arrangement to collect keys. Owners can then take their time to identify defects and send the defect list to the person in-charge, thereafter, the person in-charge will then arrange with you to carry out joint inspection and at the same time will advise probable dates to clear all the defects.
During that joint inspection, you can then determine what are the items to clear 1st to facilitate your fitting out works and moving in. Hope this information is helpful...
As I mentioned previously, upon TOP issued by BCA, architect will issue completion certificate and Developer will write to buyers' lawyers to advise payment and maintenance fees within 2 weeks.
In the letter, Developer will also state the contact person for arrangement to collect keys. Owners can then take their time to identify defects and send the defect list to the person in-charge, thereafter, the person in-charge will then arrange with you to carry out joint inspection and at the same time will advise probable dates to clear all the defects.
During that joint inspection, you can then determine what are the items to clear 1st to facilitate your fitting out works and moving in. Hope this information is helpful...
Hi KF, yes. This is very helpful! Thanks for this information. So all of the above activities will take approximately 4-8 weeks (less conservative)to complete?
Information very much appreciated!
Hi
You can contact
[email protected] or
[email protected]
They have been very helpful so far and shld be in charge of this project:)
Hi
You can contact
[email protected] or
[email protected]
They have been very helpful so far and shld be in charge of this project:)
Hi Esso99! Thanks very much for the contacts info!
Hi, any info on t.o.p?
According to the BCA website, the developer have not even applied to TOP. Just submited request for inspection which had a confirmed date of 30 Apr 2014.
According to the BCA website, the developer have not even applied to TOP. Just submited request for inspection which had a confirmed date of 30 Apr 2014.
It means still long way collecting keys. Thanks for the info.
It means still long way collecting keys. Thanks for the info.
No sure why Wing Tai is delaying this. I saw the status on another project the application for TOP is just a few days from the inspection. Almost a month have passed since the inspection, and still no Application for TOP.
after obtaining TOP ... there is a "timeline" must sell all units ... else kena penalty
No sure why Wing Tai is delaying this. I saw the status on another project the application for TOP is just a few days from the inspection. Almost a month have passed since the inspection, and still no Application for TOP.
after obtaining TOP ... there is a "timeline" must sell all units ... else kena penalty
I guess many must have book their furniture and reno work.
If BCA inspection conducted on 30 Apr 14, TOP is expected between 1 to 3 months from the inspection date.
If no major non-compliance, The Architect QP should be able to compile all relevant certificates and apply for TOP within one month from inspection. BCA will take 1 week to issue TOP in normal application, if express application (Developer needs to pay S$1000), TOP can be obtained within 2 working days.
Unlikely Developer will hold back the TOP application due to unsold units since the quantity (21 units unsold) is not significant, they have 2 years from TOP date to sell the remaining units. The progress payment they will collect from the buyers is 25% which is a very very big sum of money, just assuming average price per unit sold was S$1.0 million and total units sold = 475 (496-21). The total amount that can be collected = S$1.0 million x 475 x 25% =S$118.75
Fingers crossed, TOP should be in June 14 :cheers1:
If BCA inspection conducted on 30 Apr 14, TOP is expected between 1 to 3 months from the inspection date.
If no major non-compliance, The Architect QP should be able to compile all relevant certificates and apply for TOP within one month from inspection. BCA will take 1 week to issue TOP in normal application, if express application (Developer needs to pay S$1000), TOP can be obtained within 2 working days.
Unlikely Developer will hold back the TOP application due to unsold units since the quantity (21 units unsold) is not significant, they have 2 years from TOP date to sell the remaining units. The progress payment they will collect from the buyers is 25% which is a very very big sum of money, just assuming average price per unit sold was S$1.0 million and total units sold = 475 (496-21). The total amount that can be collected = S$1.0 million x 475 x 25% =S$118.75
Fingers crossed, TOP should be in June 14 :cheers1:
well explained.
:D, The precinct signage already installed but the side gate for maintenance access yet to be fixed. The gate is one of the outstanding items need to be cleared prior to TOP application.
Thanks KF. You have been very informative!
Anyone got recent pictures?
Saw a group of ladies in zebrafish uniform coming out of FR...possibly the staff servicing collection of keys.
Nighttrain
29-05-14, 21:50
If BCA inspection conducted on 30 Apr 14, TOP is expected between 1 to 3 months from the inspection date.
If no major non-compliance, The Architect QP should be able to compile all relevant certificates and apply for TOP within one month from inspection. BCA will take 1 week to issue TOP in normal application, if express application (Developer needs to pay S$1000), TOP can be obtained within 2 working days.
Unlikely Developer will hold back the TOP application due to unsold units since the quantity (21 units unsold) is not significant, they have 2 years from TOP date to sell the remaining units. The progress payment they will collect from the buyers is 25% which is a very very big sum of money, just assuming average price per unit sold was S$1.0 million and total units sold = 475 (496-21). The total amount that can be collected = S$1.0 million x 475 x 25% =S$118.75
Fingers crossed, TOP should be in June 14 :cheers1:no to buy this weekend(0614 or 1406) $50 big $50 small
The plastic cover on signage was removed already. And yesterday night, only the signage "FORESQUE" was lighted up. It was pure white unlike treehouse which was coloured.
Feel the height of the signage could have been placed a bit higher.
I have a non-so-good update.
am told by the developer that they are still awaiting TOP and we should expect keys only in October as after the TOP they still need to attend to various things.
I dont know if they are keeping some buffer so that people dont keep calling them everyday. To exclude this possibility, I further asked that I need to work for my next TOP payment. They said, plan it for Sep/Oct.
Keeping fingers crossed!!
They must be pulling your legs! Once TOP issued by BCA, it means that all non-compliance items spotted during the TOP must have addressed and rectified. The Developer would be very eager to issue notices to the owners' lawyer to advise payment and arrangement to collect keys to the units.
They must be pulling your legs! Once TOP issued by BCA, it means that all non-compliance items spotted during the TOP must have addressed and rectified. The Developer would be very eager to issue notices to the owners' lawyer to advise payment and arrangement to collect keys to the units.
I will sincerely like to hope and believe that you are right.
I will sincerely like to hope and believe that you are right.
I have also made calls to them check on the TOP and handover... they gave me different answers. Basically one is same as the version you got. Another is TOP will be in Jun, and handover will be right after... no specific date given.
Nighttrain
06-06-14, 22:41
I have a non-so-good update.
am told by the developer that they are still awaiting TOP and we should expect keys only in October as after the TOP they still need to attend to various things.
I dont know if they are keeping some buffer so that people dont keep calling them everyday. To exclude this possibility, I further asked that I need to work for my next TOP payment. They said, plan it for Sep/Oct.
Keeping fingers crossed!!
Haha..I call 2 week ago..same answer as u..sep/oct..last year he told me march..than change to may than close to end may I called and the answers is sep....sian..wait until neck long long..last week, I went over to take a look , one of the unit at blk 101 got no window panel..
The best person to call should be the Architect. He is the one apply for TOP.
flagship74
08-06-14, 13:52
TOP should be early next year;)
TOP should be early next year;)
Noooooooooooooooo!
TOP should be early next year;)
Nin lau peh kon?
flagship74
09-06-14, 19:42
Nin lau peh kon?
Wo lampard kon eh..
:scared-5:
BCA-TOP-APPLN - SUSPENDED - 09/06/2014 14:33:23:simmering::doh::banghead:
BCA-TOP-APPLN - SUSPENDED - 09/06/2014 14:33:23:simmering::doh::banghead:
???!!!:doh:
Obligation for BCA to reply TOP application within a week. If the application was not in order i.e some non-compliances not fully addressed, they will then suspend the application. QP will then need to re-apply upon clearing all the outstanding issues. The issues might not be major otherwise QP will not submit the application.
Obligation for BCA to reply TOP application within a week. If the application was not in order i.e some non-compliances not fully addressed, they will then suspend the application. QP will then need to re-apply upon clearing all the outstanding issues. The issues might not be major otherwise QP will not submit the application.
Would it take up to 3 months to clear all the minor issues:scared-5:? or 4 weeks will do?...
Would it take up to 3 months to clear all the minor issues:scared-5:? or 4 weeks will do?...
home owner should push the developer and keep ringing their lines. otherwise just like their website not doing updates for months.
Agreed. Since QP already applied for TOP, Consultants and Developer need to follow up closely with BCA so that the matter can be expedited. Sometimes it could be due to Authority loaded with applications to be cleared.
home owner should push the developer and keep ringing their lines. otherwise just like their website not doing updates for months.
We all know how big organisations work.
Person attending our calls is not going to give any feedback to the management which will influence their decision to expedite.
Also, I think we should trust that there are professionals sitting there doing their job.
More than us, the Developer will be keen to collect TOP money from us. It is costing him for every day's delay.
My assessment of the situation is that to keep us away from calling everyday, they are simply giving these answers that TOP will happen in Sep/Oct. However, lets hope it happens much earlier, probably this month or next.
Fingers crossed!!
Nighttrain
13-06-14, 22:11
We all know how big organisations work.
Person attending our calls is not going to give any feedback to the management which will influence their decision to expedite.
Also, I think we should trust that there are professionals sitting there doing their job.
More than us, the Developer will be keen to collect TOP money from us. It is costing him for every day's delay.
My assessment of the situation is that to keep us away from calling everyday, they are simply giving these answers that TOP will happen in Sep/Oct. However, lets hope it happens much earlier, probably this month or next.
Fingers crossed!!yesterday drove pass still saw the same unit without window. Hazi, this singapore great sale, I dare not to buy anything..sofa from lush giving great discount.
yesterday drove pass still saw the same unit without window. Hazi, this singapore great sale, I dare not to buy anything..sofa from lush giving great discount. do not put too many furniture on your living room. Especially big sofa set. Measures approx 12x17 ft.
do not put too many furniture on your living room. Especially big sofa set. Measures approx 12x17 ft.
is this 2 or 3 room unit?
is this 2 or 3 room unit?
3 bedders, 2 bedder much narrower. The showroom display very big hall because the open up the balcony panel.
3 bedders, 2 bedder much narrower. The showroom display very big hall because the open up the balcony panel.
Ya, I am only allocating 2m between wall mounted TV and Sofa rest is dining.
home owner should push the developer and keep ringing their lines. otherwise just like their website not doing updates for months.
Couldn't agree more...
BCA-TOP-APPLN - SUSPENDED - 09/06/2014 14:33:23:simmering::doh::banghead:
Is there any news?
Is there any news?
still suspended.
someone advertise lelong his 1130 unit before collecting the keys.
selling at $1190 per sq ft.
real or not?
still suspended.
On their website "TOP Q2 2014 expected" changed to "TOP Q3 2014 Expected"...and still 21 units in total unsold.
someone advertise lelong his 1130 unit before collecting the keys.
selling at $1190 per sq ft.
real or not?
found at propertyguru
Nighttrain
04-07-14, 21:35
found at propertyguru
Just drove pass saw foresque signage was removed and a wintai banner was constructed to sell the remaining penthouse
Nighttrain
28-07-14, 21:37
Just drove pass saw foresque signage was removed and a wintai banner was constructed to sell the remaining penthouse already top on 26 june...
already top on 26 june...
A1441-00003-2010-BP01 ERECTION OF 5 BLOCKS OF 24-STOREY CONDOMINIUM (496 UNITS) WITH LANDSCAPE DECK AND SWIMMING POOL ON LOT 02559M, MK 16 AT 101 TO 111 PETIR ROAD BELINDA AGNES HUANG WAN JING 201442267 06/26/2014 18294.75 145971504 496
yup, TOP already:)
A1441-00003-2010-BP01 ERECTION OF 5 BLOCKS OF 24-STOREY CONDOMINIUM (496 UNITS) WITH LANDSCAPE DECK AND SWIMMING POOL ON LOT 02559M, MK 16 AT 101 TO 111 PETIR ROAD BELINDA AGNES HUANG WAN JING 201442267 06/26/2014 18294.75 145971504 496
yup, TOP already:)
bad news was .... end of september only distribute the keys.
Nighttrain
29-07-14, 22:39
bad news was .... end of september only distribute the keys.
Even more bad news ..call up and ask when can have the keys..the reply is early October. .
Even more bad news ..call up and ask when can have the keys..the reply is early October. .
congrate to those who bought foresque, nicely done.
8896View fr Zhenghua Park
8896View fr Zhenghua Park
whoa, dann your picture super sharp. what camera and len you are using?
whoa, dann your picture super sharp. what camera and len you are using?
....haha ya. A 36 megapixel cam just off the assembly line.
....haha ya. A 36 megapixel cam just off the assembly line.
tks danntbt
Any Facebook for foresque REsidence
Nighttrain
26-08-14, 23:05
Any Facebook for foresque REsidence
Got...going to party this Saturday.?
[QUOTE=Nighttrain;488153]Got...going to party this Saturday.?[/QUOTE
What is foresque residence Facebook link ?
Got...going to party this Saturday.?
heard the developer throwing a party to celebrate early completion,
not sure who are the guests.
T.O.P. lo!
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Photo Credits: Tina Koh
T.O.P. lo!
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Photo Credits: Tina Koh
Can post some unit picture ?
It's a "Pre Hand Over Party" this coming Sat from 9am to 12pm.
But stated clearly in the mail that key collection is not on that day.
More like a session for you to take a look at the common area.
Hopefully can get some insight on the date of key collection.
just checking ... eco sanctuary, tree house and foresque residence ...
which one is most jialat suffering from bke expressway sound ...
just checking ... eco sanctuary, tree house and foresque residence ...
which one is most jialat suffering from bke expressway sound ...
All should be the same since they run parallel to the expressway.
New to this forum, first post to share...:star:
All pictures taken during the "Pre-Handover Party", 30/8/2014.
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"Pool view" for those units facing TREE HOUSE.
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darkseed73
01-09-14, 11:40
very nice looking condo. Congrats to those whom brought it :D
I think having a sky garden makes all the difference, or rather a rooftop pinnacle like garden:)
everything looks good except the muddy pond water.
Wah Treehouse pool looks so.... :sulkiness: after seeing Foresque's pool.
just checking ... eco sanctuary, tree house and foresque residence ...
which one is most jialat suffering from bke expressway sound ...
You can find out easily when taking a walk along Zhenghua Park: Many new residents of Tree House will be up for a surprise because the constant sound carpet
from BKE is easily heard and even reflected from their blocks. Once you walk towards the Foresque Blocks 103/105, you will realize that there is a small elongated mountain
in the park with high trees on it, which acts like a sound barrier at least for the lower floors of those blocks, so they are the quieter choice and best location.
I was at the pre-handover party, can't hear any traffic noise, neither at sky deck nor pool deck.
Any 2 bedroom unit picture to share ?
Any 2 bedroom unit picture to share ?
not at the moment. the party only allowed to visit the bigger showrooms.
2 bedders already sold out unless you looking at resale.
Hello everybody! I am new here. Congrats to our Foresque neighbors.
This is a very interesting forum. After learning much from here, I have decided to contribute.
I am living in TreeHouse and this is my take on the noise level. If your block is directly facing the BKE, expect noise pollution. The main culprit is not the cars but those damn motorcycles with modified exhaust. Not sure why LTA is not clamping down on them. Anyway, your solution is to close the windows and keep the balcony closed. That will eliminate 95% of the sound. You can then admire the beautiful reservoir view from the inside comfort of your spanky new place in a nice quiet environment (as nature intended) and breath in the filtered air from your aircon.
If you are on lower level, you are fine especially if there is a barrier in front of your unit. The barrier could be man-made (such as the perimeter wall of your condo) or natural (such as slope or thick growth of trees). Obviously, if there is a barrier in front of you, the awesome views of the reservoir from your unit will be limited. But the upsize is the much reduced traffic noise for our neighbors who prefer peace and quiet.
For our Eco Sanctuary neighbors, I can’t help noticing the lower floors in Block C is directly facing and is pretty close to the HDB gardening plot. For those not in the know, that is where vegetables are planted and maintained as part of the community living effort. The beauty is that our neighbors living on the lower floor in Block C will have a mini farm view. The downside is that those with sensitive nose may not enjoy the smell of fertilizers and manure used to nourish the farming land.
Well, always pros and cons and the need to compromise. Just like everything in life. :-)
i saw at propertyguru foresque rental charge is so close to its neighbor treehouse?
i understand foresque owners paying 200-300k higher for their unit compared to their neighbors,
i guess owners must be agreeing into slashing price or another reason is the agent aims for quicker deal?
no meaning to buy that expensive. poor thing.
If that was the case, the Tree house tenants would be eagerly waiting for their lease to be expired so that they can move to the Foresque.
Tree House landlords will then lower their rents further and try to retain some of them. Wise persons would be able to differentiate what is value for money! Eventually market will dictate what should be the right price for the Foresque and Tree house!
If that was the case, the Tree house tenants would be eagerly waiting for their lease to be expired so that they can move to the Foresque.
Tree House landlords will then lower their rents further and try to retain some of them. Wise persons would be able to differentiate what is value for money! Eventually market will dictate what should be the right price for the Foresque and Tree house!
someone told me agents take this appointunity to press down rental so they can close deal easily and get more income. same like taxi driver hiding and wait calls. society make them like this.
If that was the case, the Tree house tenants would be eagerly waiting for their lease to be expired so that they can move to the Foresque.
Tree House landlords will then lower their rents further and try to retain some of them. Wise persons would be able to differentiate what is value for money! Eventually market will dictate what should be the right price for the Foresque and Tree house!
From what I gather from a friend, he prefer Tree House over Foresque for his rental as there are proper yards for laundry in 3 bedder and above. Though Foresque might get a slight premium for being newer, tenants are not bothered whether you pay 200-300K more for your units at FR....likewise higher floor might not be commanding proportionate premium to your purchase price.
Tenants in smaller units might probably be more mobile as families in larger units would probably not want the hassle of moving every so often just for newer units...but they might have better bargaining power when the lease is up.
Hello everybody! I am new here. Congrats to our Foresque neighbors.
I am living in TreeHouse and this is my take on the noise level. If your block is directly facing the BKE, expect noise pollution. The main culprit is not the cars but those damn motorcycles with modified exhaust. Not sure why LTA is not clamping down on them. Anyway, your solution is to close the windows and keep the balcony closed. That will eliminate 95% of the sound. You can then admire the beautiful reservoir view from the inside comfort of your spanky new place in a nice quiet environment (as nature intended) and breath in the filtered air from your aircon.
Maybe we should all write in and complain about the motorcycles. I think the culprits are mainly Malaysian bikes.
Thermofisher
12-09-14, 15:53
Treehouse and Foresque...which one is better buy? Any fire sales?
Treehouse and Foresque...which one is better buy? Any fire sales?
Haha fire sales? When the economy s doing ok? When the interest rate is still low? When the population is still growing?
If all that are happening you yourself might have lost your job and having a sale of your own.....
Only the cash rich will make money when the economy collapses.
Even more bad news ..call up and ask when can have the keys..the reply is early October. .
agent say they drag to 4th quarter. looks like they mobilise the workers to tembusu. the site is very quiet when i drove past.
Treehouse and Foresque...which one is better buy? Any fire sales?
Foresque i think is better. Closest to the Mall (when it is built) and closer to Bukit Timah Park. After Bukit Timah Park completed revamp I think Foresque residents will be pretty happy.
Fire sales already happening at Tree House. Dunno abt Foresque...
I guess it's too early to put Foresque units on sale as most will be hit by the seller stamp duty (4 years within acquisition). Probably some units in Tree House are close to 4 years and if they purchased at $800+ psf, should be able to make money.
Foresque i think is better. Closest to the Mall (when it is built) and closer to Bukit Timah Park. After Bukit Timah Park completed revamp I think Foresque residents will be pretty happy.
Fire sales already happening at Tree House. Dunno abt Foresque...
Which mall?
there is a new mall?
Foresque i think is better. Closest to the Mall (when it is built) and closer to Bukit Timah Park. After Bukit Timah Park completed revamp I think Foresque residents will be pretty happy.
Fire sales already happening at Tree House. Dunno abt Foresque...
May I know where is the fire sale happening?
Nighttrain
17-09-14, 20:58
May I know where is the fire sale happening?
Next month, when I collect my key ..I call u..
Thermofisher
18-09-14, 08:51
Let me know which are the fire sales? I been waiting FOR IT! I want buy NOW!
May I know where is the fire sale happening?
Blossom residence start collecting keys, can give a try there.
rymccondo77
20-09-14, 01:54
Blossom residence start collecting keys, can give a try there.
Blossom Residence is an EC, so no owner can sell in the first five years of occupation.
oopsie (who just registered on 2nd Sept 2014) talks about a fire sale already happening for Tree house. As there appears to be no such fire sale, I suppose "she" ('cos she talks about her husband who is a moron) must know where the secret fire sale is..
Thermofisher
20-09-14, 14:16
Bloosom residence is lousy leh....very far inside...
oopsie (who just registered on 2nd Sept 2014) talks about a fire sale already happening for Tree house. As there appears to be no such fire sale, I suppose "she" ('cos she talks about her husband who is a moron) must know where the secret fire sale is..
Are you stalking me? LOL
I guess it's too early to put Foresque units on sale as most will be hit by the seller stamp duty (4 years within acquisition). Probably some units in Tree House are close to 4 years and if they purchased at $800+ psf, should be able to make money.
Originally Tree House were sold before the seller stamp duties came into play, they can sell anytime....but looking at URA transaction, seems like 30 percents have changed hands so these are covered by the new stamp duty policy...but why would there be any fire sale when interest is still affordable and people are not losing their jobs?
Occupancy is high if you past by at night you can tell, so even if rental is no longer as attractive, I think owners are not losing sleep over their properties as there is still the DTL factor coming into play in 2016... and Mall plus improved road traffic flow with 2 flyover being built along Bt Timah Rd.
So do take the 'housewife' words with a tinge of salt.....if indeed 'she' is a real person.
Anyone take key can show picture of the two bedder unit ?
Anyone take key can show picture of the two bedder unit ?
heard they will isue the keys after christmas, they kept holding back maybe becos of difficulties to get rid of the larger unit.
heard they will isue the keys after christmas, they kept holding back maybe becos of difficulties to get rid of the larger unit.
ok thanks
FYI, Developer has commenced serving notice to some of the units on 29 Sept 2014.
Nighttrain
02-10-14, 23:20
FYI, Developer has commenced serving notice to some of the units on 29 Sept 2014.
Normally after receiving the letter how long would we collect the keys?
2 to 3 weeks from the date of notice.
Nighttrain
09-10-14, 00:49
2 to 3 weeks from the date of notice.
Anyone received call from lawyer to make 6 months of maintenance fee and collect keys next week?
According to the developer, they have started to serve the notice since end Sept. It will go according to the block, starting with 101, 103, etc in sequence. If you want to get your unit faster, you can request to put yourself in the priority list and as soon as your unit has completed the checks, you will get the notice.
I can see the security guard house is functional, tennis courts light up at night, people/cars (look like residents) in and out of Foresque, seems like some have moved in.
Nighttrain
19-10-14, 21:47
According to the developer, they have started to serve the notice since end Sept. It will go according to the block, starting with 101, 103, etc in sequence. If you want to get your unit faster, you can request to put yourself in the priority list and as soon as your unit has completed the checks, you will get the notice.
I can see the security guard house is functional, tennis courts light up at night, people/cars (look like residents) in and out of Foresque, seems like some have moved in.
Wow .....so fast got ppl move in already...
Nighttrain
19-10-14, 21:50
Wow .....so fast got ppl move in already...
Blk101.. Should be 4 floor...saw the light and fan turn on for both weekend
9350
Blk101.. Should be 4 floor...saw the light and fan turn on for both weekend my client unit facing bukit timah hill.
9351
9350 my client unit facing bukit timah hill.
9350 my client unit facing bukit timah hill.
View from 4th floor?
View from 4th floor?
3rd floor up is above the trees, everybody will enjoy spectacular views with fresh air.
9350 my client unit facing bukit timah hill.
any 2 bedder unit picture to show ?
3rd floor up is above the trees, everybody will enjoy spectacular views with fresh air. nice!!
nice!!
Stack 15 pool view very nice.93629362
Heard that there are a lot of defects in the unit.. Like door closed too tight and very hard to open again after you closed it. Water get choked at balcony.. Flooring issues.. Keeping my fingers crossed..
I will be getting my keys next week (finally).. Called up FR early this week and indicate to them that I would like to collect my keys asap. The next day, my solicitor called me and told me that they have received the letter from Wing Tai's solicitors. I will need to pay 6 months of maintenance fund and in the mean time, my solicitor will contact the bank to disburse the remaining 25% of payment to the developer. Only after Wing Tai received the payment, then I will be able to collect the keys.
It has been a long wait...
Nighttrain
24-10-14, 07:35
Heard that there are a lot of defects in the unit.. Like door closed too tight and very hard to open again after you closed it. Water get choked at balcony.. Flooring issues.. Keeping my fingers crossed..
I will be getting my keys next week (finally).. Called up FR early this week and indicate to them that I would like to collect my keys asap. The next day, my solicitor called me and told me that they have received the letter from Wing Tai's solicitors. I will need to pay 6 months of maintenance fund and in the mean time, my solicitor will contact the bank to disburse the remaining 25% of payment to the developer. Only after Wing Tai received the payment, then I will be able to collect the keys.
It has been a long wait...My unit still under construction...dun know when can collect the keys? But went to my friend unit, indeed got defect on the compress marble, parquet floor, almost all the veneer door and kitchen laminate door and including a missing part at kitchen cooker hob. If u are staying at higher floor indeed got a very nice view and can see MBS..very nice. Good luck to all the brother and sister who had collected the keys.
Yes. A lot but the quality of material is considered good.
I collected my key on 21 October. Now checking all the defects.....
Congratulations to all who have collected or about to collect the keys. May I know if you see that it is in sequence of the block? e.g. 101, 103, etc.
Yes in sequence. But you can put up early collection request.
Like me, last block but collected my key 3 days ago.
Now at foresque, doing 1st joint inspection of defects.
can you check the dimensions for placing washer/dryer? remember it's rather smaller.
Nighttrain
24-10-14, 23:00
can you check the dimensions for placing washer/dryer? remember it's rather smaller.
If I m not wrong it ..650mmX650mm ...
Nighttrain
24-10-14, 23:17
If I m not wrong it ..650mmX650mm ...
For brother and sister bought stack 14 on higher floor confirm can see MBS while lying on the bed..:highly_amused::victorious: very nice view!!! Huat ah
If I m not wrong it ..650mmX650mm ...
Thanks! It's enough for a washer/dryer.
Thanks! It's enough for a washer/dryer.
should get a width 600 x depth 580,minus the size of drain pipe behind.
Hi, how do you conduct the inspection for defects? Any pointers to share, and what do you all look out for?
Nighttrain
26-10-14, 02:19
[QUOTE=fondbaby;493992]Hi, how do you conduct the inspection for defects? Any pointers to share, and what do you all look out .. Pls check all ur window frame, glass and the silicon..than toilet bowl and basin including all the toilet accessories got leakage a not. Pls make sure toilet, kitchen and washing machine drainage got choke a not. All the flooring. All the cabinet hinges in working condition and the wardrobe cloth hanger bar led lighting working a not. Test all the aircon room by room .. Any chip at ur solid surface top in ur kitchen. Telcom at main entrance working. All the verneer door got staint or scratches. If u did not check and after the renovation all this become ur contractor fault..
Nighttrain
26-10-14, 02:23
Just went there ..there is ppl staying at blk 107 already....saw one car parking in the carpark at blk 107
Anyone from 2 bedder already collected key?? Saw some uploaded photos on 2 bedder kitchen, is it true that the stove is ih stove?? And just beside the cabinet??
Nighttrain
26-10-14, 11:26
Anyone from 2 bedder already collected key?? Saw some uploaded photos on 2 bedder kitchen, is it true that the stove is ih stove?? And just beside the cabinet??
Wat is ih stove???
Is it just me or do you guys find the maintenance fees really expensive? It is different from the estimated share price originally posted on http://www.foresque-residences.sg/floor-plans/estimated-maintenance-fees
Shuttle bus from what from time??
Shuttle bus from what from time??
Typo.
Shuttle bus start from what time?
Any owner collected key for 2bedder ? Can post some picture for 2bedder ?
Is it just me or do you guys find the maintenance fees really expensive? It is different from the estimated share price originally posted on http://www.foresque-residences.sg/floor-plans/estimated-maintenance-fees
I have yet to collect the key for my unit. What is the maintenance fee per share?
It is a stunning 55 per share unit excluding gst
Means for a 3 bedder it is at least 411 including gst
For 2 bedder it is 353 including gst per month
These prices are 30 percent higher than the estimated maintenance prices marketed to us when we signed on the S&P. Am not sure if its usual practice for them to raise it so high in 3 years but for a 496 unit development in a suburban area(not a small development) i feel it is really expensive
Hihi, has anyone collected keys for Blk 103?
It is a stunning 55 per share unit excluding gst
Means for a 3 bedder it is at least 411 including gst
For 2 bedder it is 353 including gst per month
These prices are 30 percent higher than the estimated maintenance prices marketed to us when we signed on the S&P. Am not sure if its usual practice for them to raise it so high in 3 years but for a 496 unit development in a suburban area(not a small development) i feel it is really expensive
I share the same sentiments. I have a 2-bedder and was expecting around $250/mth. You are right, for a big development I find it pretty high. The question now is, is there anything we can do? or suck thumb....???
AssetRichMoneyPoor
27-10-14, 12:13
I share the same sentiments. I have a 2-bedder and was expecting around $250/mth. You are right, for a big development I find it pretty high. The question now is, is there anything we can do? or suck thumb....???
You may request MA to write in BCA and appeal for MF reduction (support with figures and stats). Note this usually will only see result after 1 year from TOP.
You need to band in more residents to do so too, as a pressure on MA part to commit in this course.
Hi, anyone here at stack #12, received their keys? Thanks!
Hi, I saw on my agreement : share value allotted to the unit is 7. Share of maintenance charges for the common property of housing project : 7/3307 which is $300+ a month. But now I was informed that fee is $411. Can anyone have more information on the maintenance issue? How do they calculate into $411?
Hi, I saw on my agreement : share value allotted to the unit is 7. Share of maintenance charges for the common property of housing project : 7/3307 which is $300+ a month. But now I was informed that fee is $411. Can anyone have more information on the maintenance issue? How do they calculate into $411?
Very good. Finally Luvlive and stonecow do agree with my observations. To answer your question, each share value is now $55 each. For 7 share values. it is $385 excluding GST. With GST, it is a mind boggling $411.
I guess the maintenance fee is "alright" if it was not promised to us when we purchased that it was $42/share. In just one day, the information is now removed from the website stating the maintenance fees which I am sure was communicated to you guys by the agents when you guys purchased.
Information as below. I have the original screenshot from the foresque residence website. Developers claimed the info was not provided by them to the agents. Then I wonder did the agents pluck the figure out of thin air back in 2010/2012? I am sure someone from Wincheer gave them the "estimated" figures that are now THIRTY percent higher during TOP.
1 Bedroom : Estimated $210 (5 shares)
2 bedroom : Estimated $252-$294 (6-7 shares)
3 bedroom: Estimated $294-$336 (7-8 shares)
My lawyer has advised to bring it up to commissioner of buildings to see if can get them to lower it. There is absolutely no justification by claiming workers costs have increased and govt drive etc etc if comparable developments with comparable number of units have lower maintenance charges. Our development is now "probably" having the highest fees in this part of hillview/bukit panjang.
I am not sure how many of you were drawn in by the supposed low maintenance fees when you signed on the S&P but for me,it was one of the factors and I was really disappointed when the figure of 411 surfaced.
You can compare with The Clift at Tanjong Pagar/ Tree house/ Alexis and I realise ours is really expensive (regardless of whatever productivity drive which shld affect everyone).
Hi, how do you conduct the inspection for defects? Any pointers to share, and what do you all look out for?
http://diva79.blogspot.sg/2014/10/hdb-defect-checking-revisited.html
U can use this as a reference.
Very good. Finally Luvlive and stonecow do agree with my observations. To answer your question, each share value is now $55 each. For 7 share values. it is $385 excluding GST. With GST, it is a mind boggling $411.
I guess the maintenance fee is "alright" if it was not promised to us when we purchased that it was $42/share. In just one day, the information is now removed from the website stating the maintenance fees which I am sure was communicated to you guys by the agents when you guys purchased.
Information as below. I have the original screenshot from the foresque residence website. Developers claimed the info was not provided by them to the agents. Then I wonder did the agents pluck the figure out of thin air back in 2010/2012? I am sure someone from Wincheer gave them the "estimated" figures that are now THIRTY percent higher during TOP.
1 Bedroom : Estimated $210 (5 shares)
2 bedroom : Estimated $252-$294 (6-7 shares)
3 bedroom: Estimated $294-$336 (7-8 shares)
My lawyer has advised to bring it up to commissioner of buildings to see if can get them to lower it. There is absolutely no justification by claiming workers costs have increased and govt drive etc etc if comparable developments with comparable number of units have lower maintenance charges. Our development is now "probably" having the highest fees in this part of hillview/bukit panjang.
I am not sure how many of you were drawn in by the supposed low maintenance fees when you signed on the S&P but for me,it was one of the factors and I was really disappointed when the figure of 411 surfaced.
You can compare with The Clift at Tanjong Pagar/ Tree house/ Alexis and I realise ours is really expensive (regardless of whatever productivity drive which shld affect everyone).
My gosh!!!
Does your development come with lotsof landscaping facilities etc?
Hi Esso99... Thank you for your reply. I agree on what your views about the maintainence fees.
Hi everyone in this forum, is there any official website that I can join with other residents to discuss about Foresque?... Regarding inspection, buying of items, maintainence fees etc.. Thank you.
Very good. Finally Luvlive and stonecow do agree with my observations. To answer your question, each share value is now $55 each. For 7 share values. it is $385 excluding GST. With GST, it is a mind boggling $411.
I guess the maintenance fee is "alright" if it was not promised to us when we purchased that it was $42/share. In just one day, the information is now removed from the website stating the maintenance fees which I am sure was communicated to you guys by the agents when you guys purchased.
Information as below. I have the original screenshot from the foresque residence website. Developers claimed the info was not provided by them to the agents. Then I wonder did the agents pluck the figure out of thin air back in 2010/2012? I am sure someone from Wincheer gave them the "estimated" figures that are now THIRTY percent higher during TOP.
1 Bedroom : Estimated $210 (5 shares)
2 bedroom : Estimated $252-$294 (6-7 shares)
3 bedroom: Estimated $294-$336 (7-8 shares)
My lawyer has advised to bring it up to commissioner of buildings to see if can get them to lower it. There is absolutely no justification by claiming workers costs have increased and govt drive etc etc if comparable developments with comparable number of units have lower maintenance charges. Our development is now "probably" having the highest fees in this part of hillview/bukit panjang.
I am not sure how many of you were drawn in by the supposed low maintenance fees when you signed on the S&P but for me,it was one of the factors and I was really disappointed when the figure of 411 surfaced.
You can compare with The Clift at Tanjong Pagar/ Tree house/ Alexis and I realise ours is really expensive (regardless of whatever productivity drive which shld affect everyone).
My husband and I agree fully with you on this issue. It was pretty shocking to receive the new increased price per share and to receive such notice after waiting sooo long for keys. Let me know if there is anything we can do to help with this issue. We do not want to fund developer's mistakes or pay penalties for agent's misrepresentation. :sour:
we can discuss more with other residents in the FB Closed group.
Is the FB closed group still active? i sent a request about a month back but no reply.
Very good. Finally Luvlive and stonecow do agree with my observations. To answer your question, each share value is now $55 each. For 7 share values. it is $385 excluding GST. With GST, it is a mind boggling $411.
I guess the maintenance fee is "alright" if it was not promised to us when we purchased that it was $42/share. In just one day, the information is now removed from the website stating the maintenance fees which I am sure was communicated to you guys by the agents when you guys purchased.
Information as below. I have the original screenshot from the foresque residence website. Developers claimed the info was not provided by them to the agents. Then I wonder did the agents pluck the figure out of thin air back in 2010/2012? I am sure someone from Wincheer gave them the "estimated" figures that are now THIRTY percent higher during TOP.
1 Bedroom : Estimated $210 (5 shares)
2 bedroom : Estimated $252-$294 (6-7 shares)
3 bedroom: Estimated $294-$336 (7-8 shares)
My lawyer has advised to bring it up to commissioner of buildings to see if can get them to lower it. There is absolutely no justification by claiming workers costs have increased and govt drive etc etc if comparable developments with comparable number of units have lower maintenance charges. Our development is now "probably" having the highest fees in this part of hillview/bukit panjang.
I am not sure how many of you were drawn in by the supposed low maintenance fees when you signed on the S&P but for me,it was one of the factors and I was really disappointed when the figure of 411 surfaced.
You can compare with The Clift at Tanjong Pagar/ Tree house/ Alexis and I realise ours is really expensive (regardless of whatever productivity drive which shld affect everyone).
Guideline for share values from bca
https://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=P9ZOVLT-BuTRmwWZn4KgBA&url=http://www.bca.gov.sg/BMSM/others/Share_Value_Guidelines.pdf&ved=0CDIQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNGh0QcTUX78tGnla5WCRR3wt1u0YQ&sig2=MYlnde-XwdaRiicJlK8I5g
Guideline for share values from bca
https://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=P9ZOVLT-BuTRmwWZn4KgBA&url=http://www.bca.gov.sg/BMSM/others/Share_Value_Guidelines.pdf&ved=0CDIQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNGh0QcTUX78tGnla5WCRR3wt1u0YQ&sig2=MYlnde-XwdaRiicJlK8I5g
Hi all
Thanks for all the affirmations so far that there is something indeed wrong.
I have spoken to the developer, lawyer and BCA already. If the developer still does not back down, our best bet would be to raise the issue and gather as many residents as possible. There are currently 2 facebook foresque group not sure which is the official one but I am not in any of them at the moment.
I think collectively, if we exert pressure on the team on site to reduce the maintenance fees, there would be some effect. Probably those 80 plus units that have collected or are going to collect the keys can express their concerns to the team on site at the clubhouse.
For every unit paying an average of $100 more after the increase, it will mean $49,600 more every month for knight frank to manage a sub urban condo like ours. Question is , is it really neccessary. If anyone else have any other methods to get developers to change their mind, please share too. They have managed in 1 day to force agents to remove information from the website. If there is really nothing wrong, why did the developer do so. Of course, they like to claim that the information is "estimated". But one thing is certain, those "estimated" figures are provided by Wincheer. Fullstop. So does this open the door to anyhow setting maintenance fees to lure people to buy, then at the end of 3 years, owners get a shock?
Thanks all.
In any case, I would help all owners to see if anything can be done to lower the fees but if nothing changes, maybe then we can discuss how to raise our concerns collectively as a group. But in the interim, I will see what I can do first.
Hi all,
Thanks for sharing.
I'll be collecting my keys these few days and will express my concern regarding the high maintenance fees to the management.
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FORESQUE RESIDENCES 105 Petir Road #16-12 1 105 Strata 1,333,888 12704 1180 15-OCT-2014 Condominium 99 Yrs From 10/01/2011 2014 Sub Sale HDB 23 67 678274 West Region Bukit Panjang
In any case, I would help all owners to see if anything can be done to lower the fees but if nothing changes, maybe then we can discuss how to raise our concerns collectively as a group. But in the interim, I will see what I can do first.
Thank you for brought up the concern to all of us, specially to those who didnt receive the keys yet. Indeed what they did, both developers and agents are very wrong! We would be glad to help if anything can be done!
darkseed73
28-10-14, 15:20
Guideline for share values from bca
https://www.google.com.sg/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=P9ZOVLT-BuTRmwWZn4KgBA&url=http://www.bca.gov.sg/BMSM/others/Share_Value_Guidelines.pdf&ved=0CDIQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNGh0QcTUX78tGnla5WCRR3wt1u0YQ&sig2=MYlnde-XwdaRiicJlK8I5g
That's just a guide but not a LAW.
Maintenance it's really depend on how management perceive the required value etc.
Normally, first year after TOP most of the cost is bore by the developer (under warranty), your funds are only really used after Legal completion date.
Actually...it's pretty normal what's advertise and what actually pay when u TOP differs a bit (other forum user can comment).
My point is unused funds will become your condo's reserve thus not like your money is being stolen :D think positively :D
Request to check the books during your first AGM or something :D
That's just a guide but not a LAW.
Maintenance it's really depend on how management perceive the required value etc.
Normally, first year after TOP most of the cost is bore by the developer (under warranty), your funds are only really used after Legal completion date.
Actually...it's pretty normal what's advertise and what actually pay when u TOP differs a bit (other forum user can comment).
My point is unused funds will become your condo's reserve thus not like your money is being stolen :D think positively :D
Request to check the books during your first AGM or something :D
Hi darkseed73 what you raised are very valid points, but this also further means for the first year where those funds we put in are not into use and part of the condo reserves wouldnt it be better if these extra cash can be put in residents hands which can earn 3.05% with ocbc 360 vs 0 percent if left in a condo fund?
Also, by right since the condo is brand new and most costs are borne by developer shouldnt the baseline maintenance fees be lower with a view of increasing it in the future rather than the other way around?
While it is true that it is our money, inspecting the books at AGM is an after event action. If there is no justification to such high fees at the onset, wouldnt it be better to take preemptive actions compared to after event action? I am sure residents wont mind putting the funds if theres a pressing need to do so, but for a brand new condo where the paint hasnt dried and according to earlier forumers who mentioned of cracked floors and flooded balconies, i personally do not think such fees are justified "at this stage".
Thanks for your views.
Hi darkseed73 what you raised are very valid points, but this also further means for the first year where those funds we put in are not into use and part of the condo reserves wouldnt it be better if these extra cash can be put in residents hands which can earn 3.05% with ocbc 360 vs 0 percent if left in a condo fund?
Also, by right since the condo is brand new and most costs are borne by developer shouldnt the baseline maintenance fees be lower with a view of increasing it in the future rather than the other way around?
While it is true that it is our money, inspecting the books at AGM is an after event action. If there is no justification to such high fees at the onset, wouldnt it be better to take preemptive actions compared to after event action? I am sure residents wont mind putting the funds if theres a pressing need to do so, but for a brand new condo where the paint hasnt dried and according to earlier forumers who mentioned of cracked floors and flooded balconies, i personally do not think such fees are justified "at this stage".
Thanks for your views.
Esso99, i agree with you
darkseed73
29-10-14, 10:02
Hi darkseed73 what you raised are very valid points, but this also further means for the first year where those funds we put in are not into use and part of the condo reserves wouldnt it be better if these extra cash can be put in residents hands which can earn 3.05% with ocbc 360 vs 0 percent if left in a condo fund?
Also, by right since the condo is brand new and most costs are borne by developer shouldnt the baseline maintenance fees be lower with a view of increasing it in the future rather than the other way around?
While it is true that it is our money, inspecting the books at AGM is an after event action. If there is no justification to such high fees at the onset, wouldnt it be better to take preemptive actions compared to after event action? I am sure residents wont mind putting the funds if theres a pressing need to do so, but for a brand new condo where the paint hasnt dried and according to earlier forumers who mentioned of cracked floors and flooded balconies, i personally do not think such fees are justified "at this stage".
Thanks for your views.
Hi Esso99,
I understand where u coming from and I would like to ask is this your first condo?
"You mention each share value is now $55 each. For 7 share values. it is $385 excluding GST. With GST, it is a mind boggling $411.
I guess the maintenance fee is "alright" if it was not promised to us when we purchased that it was $42/share."
Actually, I don't think maintenance can be "promise" usually sales agent provide the figure is "estimated". Always expect to be more, never less.
The developer will tell you "inflation", when they told you $42/share is in year XXXX, when TOP is year XXXX thus there would be some loading.
Secondly, I mention in my post "condo reserve" does not meant developer is paying for the MA fees, security guards and other fees (like pool cleaning services, gardening etc) thus do not have the idea that 1st year is all free.
Anyways, it's normal that's all i can say.
But do keep us the bro and sis here in the loop cause we may learn something for this event.
Hi,
For those who have collected the key, may I know...
1. How long is the wait between getting the notice and actual key collection?
2. When is the start date of the maintenance fee?
Thanks.
Xu Xiao Xia
29-10-14, 10:59
Hi darkseed73 what you raised are very valid points, but this also further means for the first year where those funds we put in are not into use and part of the condo reserves wouldnt it be better if these extra cash can be put in residents hands which can earn 3.05% with ocbc 360 vs 0 percent if left in a condo fund?
Also, by right since the condo is brand new and most costs are borne by developer shouldnt the baseline maintenance fees be lower with a view of increasing it in the future rather than the other way around?
While it is true that it is our money, inspecting the books at AGM is an after event action. If there is no justification to such high fees at the onset, wouldnt it be better to take preemptive actions compared to after event action? I am sure residents wont mind putting the funds if theres a pressing need to do so, but for a brand new condo where the paint hasnt dried and according to earlier forumers who mentioned of cracked floors and flooded balconies, i personally do not think such fees are justified "at this stage".
Thanks for your views.
Hello Esso99, I strongly support your views. There is a difference between what is legal and what is ethical/moral. Come on all centsible future neighbours, lets rally around Esso99 and give him/her full support. Esso99 is making constructive criticism for the common good. We have a good chance if we stand together collectively as one loud voice. I dont think they want bad publicity to hurt their slow sales at The Cr*st, so we have to stand together and take this fight to the streets!
Esso99, i agree with you
Agree w you
Hi all,
May i know how do you transfer the Singapore Power Utilities to your account? Understand from Wing Tai that they will only help to pay for the first 2 weeks after key collection.
Next, I realized that we are not allowed to install blinds in the balcony.. Is that a concern to any of you? It came as a surprised to me as I was told by my agent that I could.
And when I feedback about the high maintenance fees, the management just gave very lame excuses like inflation, a lot of facilities to maintain.. But I told her that what are the facilities that require so much fees? Then she also feedback about there are 6 security guards in the day and 4 at night... Things will be maintained well. Then I told her in that case, I would expect excellent services and condition in this condo since we are paying such high fees. She rebutted saying high fees may not equate to good services. Low fees may get good services as well. Ultimately, it's the management that matters. Really don't know what she's talking about but hope something could be done... The next AGM will be 18mths later (from the TOP date) where we will expect another hike in maintenance fees. Likely 1 year later since the condo was TOP in June...
Foresque is a beautiful development. All the residents should be happy upon collecting their keys. No need to argue ley, cannot win de. Still have to pay and pay. Regardless, the maintenance $ also quite competitive as compared to Treehouse. Eco Sanctuary ppl can also expect to pay somewhere in the same range.
Just accept it and be happy. Even if u do not accept it, u still have to pay and be unhappy if u pay unwillingly. Point is, no need waste time and energy fighting this battle that u cannot win. Might as well spend your time and energy on house moving.
If you never try, you never know. I'm still happy when I collect the key. Just trying to voice out my views in the forum to see if there are other alternatives to make things better. And also to let the management know the residents' concern.
If you never try, you never know. I'm still happy when I collect the key. Just trying to voice out my views in the forum to see if there are other alternatives to make things better. And also to let the management know the residents' concern.
2 bedroom unit
I totally agree. Happy when collect key, happiercif the maintenance fee is reduce!
2 bedroom unit
Thank you!
Where is the washing machine area?
I totally agree. Happy when collect key, happiercif the maintenance fee is reduce!
Kitchen, inside the cabinet at the end.
Any photos of 3 bedder units? Thanks.
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