View Full Version : Telok kurau vs Tanah Merah
Chillyred888
05-02-11, 09:02
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
I will choose TM. That area is located more conveniently and while not holding the prestigious D15 tag, is actually faster to town if you factor in all the traveling time via MRT (cos in TK you'll need to take bus)
TK used to be nice, but too many MMs and boutique developments are spoiling the serenity - and the traffic is quite terrible at times.Not very convenient if you ask me.
I am assuming you are comparing a full-fledged condo in TM versus a boutique (less than 100 units) one in TK?
I suggest, u have a cooling period first, as it is now more of a buyer market. U need first to decide, whether is it time to buy?
Go to the two projects more often, bring along your family, see the neighbourhood, how convenient there are in term of family living and life style.
If u are looking for a place to stay, draw up what are the criteria in buying first, give weight to all the considerations,
nobrainer32007
05-02-11, 10:19
I buy property faster than buying my LED TV.
I suggest, u have a cooling period first, as it is now more of a buyer market. U need first to decide, whether is it time to buy?
Go to the two projects more often, bring along your family, see the neighbourhood, how convenient there are in term of family living and life style.
If u are looking for a place to stay, draw up what are the criteria in buying first, give weight to all the considerations,
I buy property faster than buying my LED TV.
Cos LED TV is depreciating asset :D
a few considerations:
1. you must like the place - what does your heart tell you?
2. which one has better upside in the future? even then, you must still like it! refer to point 1 again.
3. which one does the whole family like?
4. convenience to amenities are very important - TM is nearer to many.
5. wait for better offer or buy soon? every place has its price at that moment in time - make your offer and carry on from there - if the discount (if any) is good, you may want to accept the tradeoff in other regards.
so all are very personal considerations.
may be better to list them down, though sometimes that 1 important consideration may veto all the many others.
I buy property faster than buying my LED TV.
That's quite funny but true:D
I have bought and sold more properties than my TV. (Let me rephrase that, I bought my TV before my 1st property. The 1st property is sold and have since bought others. That TV is still with me).
My TV is still one of those big boxes that's still working perfectly. I am refusing to get a new one until it breaks down.:)
That's quite funny but true:D
I have bought and sold more properties than my TV. (Let me rephrase that, I bought my TV before my 1st property. The 1st property is sold and have since bought others. That TV is still with me).
My TV is still one of those big boxes that's still working perfectly. I am refusing to get a new one until it breaks down.:)
Then i buy and sell properties more often than buy new underwear liao...
Then i buy and sell properties more often than buy new underwear liao...
You win lah.:D
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
Which part of TM? I tot TM is D16... Hmmm suddenly durians come to mind... Anyway if need to be near prestigious TNS...then obvious choice is TK...
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
FH or LH. Do you intend to sell this property few years later or is this the last? LH will lose value as it gets older, if you don't intend to move, then it doesn't matter, unless you intend to leave it to your kids.
Pricewise, FH is worth the 50k
Location. Do you drive? If you do, the MRT distance is immaterial.
TK is presumed to be low rise, while TM is highrise. That's personal preference. views?
If you don't mind, can share with us which 2 developments you are comparing against?
IMO, its hard to compare as one TK mostly small apartments and TM are condos.
If you prefer to be near the MRT, there are also lors G and H in TK where you can consider. There are some apartments there that are less than 500m to Kembangan MRT.
Aside frm train accessibility, are there other factors you are considering? Such as Schools,, proximity to beaches and etc?
Share with us so that we can better give our inputs.
Not considering kembangan? Lengkong xxxxxx. 10min walk to mrt and about same location as TK..
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
Chillyred888
05-02-11, 14:38
Hi guys, thank you for all the replies. :)
I don't think i will sell this property and will probably stay there as long as i can. I drive, but my wife doesn't. Be near to schools is not our priority.
And yes, it is a boutique condo (Lorong M) vs Optima. Both has pretty good sized facilities. Afterall we just need the gym, pool and bbq pit.
We love the ideal square, glass panel balcony at TK. It is facing the road and nice landed houses, yet half hidden, got privacy!
TM's unit (mid to high floor) has only a planter (got sliding door access) that is facing Casa Merah, pretty quiet.
Location wise, D15 seems like a better bet (prestious and freehold), TK might have a future MRT in 2020. TM currently has an MRT but its L99, but it has an upcoming mall beside it.
In times of crisis, do u think TM or TK has a better yield, in terms of renting or selling?
Hi guys, thank you for all the replies. :)
I don't think i will sell this property and will probably stay there as long as i can. I drive, but my wife doesn't. Be near to schools is not our priority.
And yes, it is a boutique condo (Lorong M) vs Optima. Both has pretty good sized facilities. Afterall we just need the gym, pool and bbq pit.
We love the ideal square, glass panel balcony at TK. It is facing the road and nice landed houses, yet half hidden, got privacy!
TM's unit (mid to high floor) has only a planter (got sliding door access) that is facing Casa Merah, pretty quiet.
Location wise, D15 seems like a better bet (prestious and freehold), TK might have a future MRT in 2020. TM currently has an MRT but its L99, but it has an upcoming mall beside it.
In times of crisis, do u think TM or TK has a better yield, in terms of renting or selling?
optima definitely easier to rent out whether crisis or no crisis..
overall,i find that optima is still the better choice,FH or LH doesnt matter..eg:mandarin gardens is still so sought after even though its 30yrs old already.
the boutique condo in lorong M is not convenient at all,its all long walk to the main road if u dont drive n also minimal amenities nearby..
u should also consider kembangan area 'astoria park or trumps.' both have mrt at their doorsteps plus many eateries around that area..over there,u must get the units facing away from the track..
imo,i find that kembangan is a better area than TM or TK..:cheers6:
Chillyred888
05-02-11, 21:24
optima definitely easier to rent out whether crisis or no crisis..
overall,i find that optima is still the better choice,FH or LH doesnt matter..eg:mandarin gardens is still so sought after even though its 30yrs old already.
the boutique condo in lorong M is not convenient at all,its all long walk to the main road if u dont drive n also minimal amenities nearby..
u should also consider kembangan area 'astoria park or trumps.' both have mrt at their doorsteps plus many eateries around that area..over there,u must get the units facing away from the track..
imo,i find that kembangan is a better area than TM or TK..:cheers6:
its a matter of listening to my heart vs logic thinking as an investor..i love the TK project as its quite laid back and serene(only 23 units)and love love the beautiful Balcony anytime better that optima's planter.
i agree,location wise kembangan is anytime better den TM,but there is no new project and i have seen the Trumps and AStoria,don't really like these 2 projects though:beats-me-man:
If Tk has a potential future mrt station(likely to be along Still road?)i don't mind going for it,as the only difference now is that TM provide that transport convenience.
any idea if TK mrt station is confirm in the latest Eastern line master plan?
thomastansb
05-02-11, 21:56
Mandarin garden different story. Got seaview, big site and high potential for en bloc.
optima definitely easier to rent out whether crisis or no crisis..
overall,i find that optima is still the better choice,FH or LH doesnt matter..eg:mandarin gardens is still so sought after even though its 30yrs old already.
the boutique condo in lorong M is not convenient at all,its all long walk to the main road if u dont drive n also minimal amenities nearby..
u should also consider kembangan area 'astoria park or trumps.' both have mrt at their doorsteps plus many eateries around that area..over there,u must get the units facing away from the track..
imo,i find that kembangan is a better area than TM or TK..:cheers6:
blackpepperj
05-02-11, 23:13
I don't think i will sell this property and will probably stay there as long as i can. I drive, but my wife doesn't.
In times of crisis, do u think TM or TK has a better yield, in terms of renting or selling?
:doh:
TK better, TK is FH mah.
proud owner
05-02-11, 23:22
Then i buy and sell properties more often than buy new underwear liao...
i buy property online... when i am not even in singapore
blackpepperj
05-02-11, 23:38
Then i buy and sell properties more often than buy new underwear liao...
I should assume u buy and sell properties regularly then. I'm curious whether u ever get assessed on your gains? ;)
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
FH ppty better in long run. U sure u wana stay 'beside' the mrt? unless u dun drive.. if not.. forget abt it... its seriousli very very annoying with the mrt noise. LRT is different.. almost unnoticeable.
Mandarin garden different story. Got seaview, big site and high potential for en bloc.
its not different story,story is still the same...mandarin gardens is popular cos the location is good..as long as location is good,the property will be popular regardless of its age even if its LH..
en bloc not likely the next few years for mandarin gardens according to my friend who is staying there.
ultimately in today's context,LH or FH doesnt really matter anymore imo..location is most important.:cheers6:
its a matter of listening to my heart vs logic thinking as an investor..i love the TK project as its quite laid back and serene(only 23 units)and love love the beautiful Balcony anytime better that optima's planter.
i agree,location wise kembangan is anytime better den TM,but there is no new project and i have seen the Trumps and AStoria,don't really like these 2 projects though:beats-me-man:
If Tk has a potential future mrt station(likely to be along Still road?)i don't mind going for it,as the only difference now is that TM provide that transport convenience.
any idea if TK mrt station is confirm in the latest Eastern line master plan?
The estimated location of the future MRT is actually at one end of the TK road. So most of the TK unit owners have to walk around 10-15 min to the station - a tedious walk because most pathways are very narrow and unsheltered.
Chillyred888
06-02-11, 08:12
Location Location Location...very near Mrt,further from city but LH is a better choice?
or future MRT (walk 10-15mins) yet nearer to city, yet FH....?:confused:
Chillyred888
06-02-11, 08:28
its not different story,story is still the same...mandarin gardens is popular cos the location is good..as long as location is good,the property will be popular regardless of its age even if its LH..
en bloc not likely the next few years for mandarin gardens according to my friend who is staying there.
ultimately in today's context,LH or FH doesnt really matter anymore imo..location is most important.:cheers6:
for mandarin gardens there is no mrt,no nearby amenities (within walking distance) how do u justify Good Location?
I should assume u buy and sell properties regularly then. I'm curious whether u ever get assessed on your gains? ;)
As long as not exceed 4 times per year it is ok...
I think Mandarin Garden's good cos the land is big plus its just beside the sea... and easily accessible to many good schools.
TK will have a MRT, many already predicted its location.
I have personally considered Lor M before, visited nearly all the boutique apartments there...nearly bought 1 but offer was rejected and unwilling to bulge on price. Agree that the area is serene, peaceful and quiet in the morning.
There are various factors that you can consider.
Location (proximity to amenities), rental yield (in future), resale value, environment, developer, TOP date and etc.
Weigh all these and discuss with your love ones which is more important before making a final decision.
If you are looking at TK, just go for those along lorong g or h. Especially those beside or near the park connector.
Its very quiet and serene, near TK park and yet very accessible to the mrt (+- 400m). And with all the shophouses along Changi road, food and groceries is not a problem. Plus its FH...
blackpepperj
06-02-11, 14:09
As long as not exceed 4 times per year it is ok...
I didnt know it is 4 times per year.
http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page04.aspx?id=152
Have to consider SSD now as well.
I didnt know it is 4 times per year.
http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page04.aspx?id=152
Have to consider SSD now as well.
Am trying to hint here that people have gotten away buy sell as many as 4 times in a year without being classified as trader...
Wild Falcon
06-02-11, 15:37
There is no perfect home. I think threadstarter's heart is with Telok Kurau and so most important is follow the heart when it comes to your home.
The only disadvantaged small-scale TK development (I won't call them "boutique") vs a medium size Tanamera one are as follows (if u still want some left brained analysis):-
1) Possible carpark problems - pls search for another thread discussing parking problems in TK. Many small development by small developers don't even bother to build basement carpark despite the lack of land (cost cutting), therefore parking is limited on the first floor with limited sheltered parking. So residents are always fighting for those popular sheltered lots. We're not talking about second car here - even first car have to fight for lots and your visitors will dread to come to your house because they have nowhere to park.
2) Cluttered environment - narrow lanes with numerous small developments that specialise in MM nowadays. Not sure what sort of crowd will rent all these inconvenient MMs not near MRT in the future. TK is in between 2 red light areas - Joo chiat and geylang.
3) No MRT - TK unlikely to be near future MRT station. And after chatting with a friend from LTA, while MRT station is not a must have today, it shall become increasingly important in the future.
Having said all of the above, u should just follow your heart.
kingkong1984
06-02-11, 15:50
Am trying to hint here that people have gotten away buy sell as many as 4 times in a year without being classified as trader...
One for ownself, one for wife, one for son and one for daughter.
After that, sell as whole family decided to stay together.
Location Location Location...very near Mrt,further from city but LH is a better choice?
or future MRT (walk 10-15mins) yet nearer to city, yet FH....?:confused:
if u have to walk more than 200m to the mrt station is considered quite far already,so a 10-15mins walk @ normal pace is definitely more than 200m..it will not be so ideal if its drizzling..
condos that are truly considered near mrt are: meraprime,central green,metropolitan,queens,kovan melody,compass heights,trumps,astoria pk,icon,citylights,southbank,modena,optima of coz n few more which i cant remember..
all those mentioned are more or less at the door steps of the mrt station...
blackpepperj
07-02-11, 12:26
Am trying to hint here that people have gotten away buy sell as many as 4 times in a year without being classified as trader...
Ok, thanks ;)
blackpepperj
07-02-11, 12:32
if u have to walk more than 200m to the mrt station is considered quite far already,so a 10-15mins walk @ normal pace is definitely more than 200m..it will not be so ideal if its drizzling..
condos that are truly considered near mrt are: meraprime,central green,metropolitan,queens,kovan melody,compass heights,trumps,astoria pk,icon,citylights,southbank,modena,optima of coz n few more which i cant remember..
all those mentioned are more or less at the door steps of the mrt station...
10-15mins walk to MRT in S'pore weather is :tsk-tsk: . In office wear somemore. I'm sure females will complain.
devilplate
07-02-11, 15:18
if u have to walk more than 200m to the mrt station is considered quite far already,so a 10-15mins walk @ normal pace is definitely more than 200m..it will not be so ideal if its drizzling..
condos that are truly considered near mrt are: meraprime,central green,metropolitan,queens,kovan melody,compass heights,trumps,astoria pk,icon,citylights,southbank,modena,optima of coz n few more which i cant remember..
all those mentioned are more or less at the door steps of the mrt station...
within 500m shd be fine for tenants(5-7min walk)....for own stay....up to individual liao....some die die wana doorstep nia....or better still...MRT just a lift away:D
devilplate
07-02-11, 15:23
Location Location Location...very near Mrt,further from city but LH is a better choice?
or future MRT (walk 10-15mins) yet nearer to city, yet FH....?:confused:
telok kurau Lor G,H 1/2bedder goodie as its within 5-7mins walk to MRT....Lor M,N 3/4 bedder goodie as its near to gd schools.
prefer TK over joo chiat area(unless those near to the new katong mall....but no MRT)
i prefer simei condos like DBR, modena compared to tanah merah.
Wild Falcon
07-02-11, 19:15
Freehold near (future) MRT is best choice. Now is VERY rare but should have more coming up (but still rare).
Location Location Location...very near Mrt,further from city but LH is a better choice?
or future MRT (walk 10-15mins) yet nearer to city, yet FH....?:confused:
Freehold near (future) MRT is best choice. Now is VERY rare but should have more coming up (but still rare).
It's going to be more rare.... there's only a fixed supply of FH land, and there are developers buying FH and selling as LH. Government can flood market with LH, but there's no control over FH.
within 500m shd be fine for tenants(5-7min walk)....for own stay....up to individual liao....some die die wana doorstep nia....or better still...MRT just a lift away:D
On a daily basis, unless ive buses or what within 50m, max walk to mrt is 8mins, personal limit.
Hi Chilly,
if you prefer big units in TK and walking distance to Kembangan MRT, you might want to take a look at The Verte - smallest is 3 bedrooms on that project.
If not, there are others like The Treeline and The Azurro Lorong G and H
devilplate
08-02-11, 12:00
Hi Chilly,
if you prefer big units in TK and walking distance to Kembangan MRT, you might want to take a look at The Verte - smallest is 3 bedrooms on that project.
If not, there are others like The Treeline and The Azurro Lorong G and H
verte build very very slow hor....i drop by tat area recently and looks like still nid another 6-9mths to complete:scared-3: ....roxy damn slow....world class much much better.....
verte build very very slow hor....i drop by tat area recently and looks like still nid another 6-9mths to complete:scared-3: ....roxy damn slow....world class much much better.....
verte is fully sold out, if i'm remember correctly. nevertheless, it's still quite a distance to walk to kembangan mrt
Long term - get FH
Short to mid term - get LH near MRT
Chillyred888
08-02-11, 17:29
Hi Chilly,
if you prefer big units in TK and walking distance to Kembangan MRT, you might want to take a look at The Verte - smallest is 3 bedrooms on that project.
If not, there are others like The Treeline and The Azurro Lorong G and H
i've viewed almost all potential units in TK ,personally i prefer lor M or N.
Chillyred888
08-02-11, 17:33
Long term - get FH
Short to mid term - get LH near MRT
it is going to be my 1st home and just like any proud home owner, i certainly love to choose one that make my heart flutter:p
intend to stay there for as long as i can...
verte build very very slow hor....i drop by tat area recently and looks like still nid another 6-9mths to complete:scared-3: ....roxy damn slow....world class much much better.....
Hi Devil, Yea man ... it is damm long ... wondering what is wrong with them ... *sigh*
i've viewed almost all potential units in TK ,personally i prefer lor M or N.
So which units have u narrowed down in M and N? Let us know so we can discuss with u the merits?:D
Still road side or Telok Kurau rd side? The TK rd side got abit more congestion during peak hours. Here got many D15/16 specialists will advice u :cheers1:
[quote=Chillyred888]i've viewed almost all potential units in TK ,personally i prefer lor M or N.[/quote
1 of the project in lorong m is le merrit, lorong n is nclave,emprado suites or ambrosia..i m sure there are also a few other small projects around there.
my advise is not to buy any of them at all.
reason: no security guard,small swimming pool(more like a big bath tub),small gym,no underground carpark,high maintenance fees,not easily accessible to amenities,bad feng shui:sharp pointed roof tops n tv antennas pointing at your unit from your neighbour landed properties..:doh:
[quote=Chillyred888]i've viewed almost all potential units in TK ,personally i prefer lor M or N.[/quote
1 of the project in lorong m is le merrit, lorong n is nclave,emprado suites or ambrosia..i m sure there are also a few other small projects around there.
my advise is not to buy any of them at all.
reason: no security guard,small swimming pool(more like a big bath tub),small gym,no underground carpark,high maintenance fees,not easily accessible to amenities,bad feng shui:sharp pointed roof tops n tv antennas pointing at your unit from your neighbour landed properties..:doh:
I think Still road side 'feels' better. Telok Kurau side towards the Siglap Canal abit 'tight' feel. However the Park Connector is good for leisure walks? :)
I wunder wats the maintenance for those properties TS narrowed down.
Regulators
08-02-11, 23:57
Go for Lorong G, mark my words.
i've viewed almost all potential units in TK ,personally i prefer lor M or N.
[quote=fiat500]
I think Still road side 'feels' better. Telok Kurau side towards the Siglap Canal abit 'tight' feel. However the Park Connector is good for leisure walks? :)
I wunder wats the maintenance for those properties TS narrowed down.
no way, still road is a nightmare. the noise, the traffic, the jam......
proud owner
09-02-11, 07:52
does anyone here get the same feeling i get ...
that from katong thru the whole TK is a nightmare ?
cramp lorongs ... cars parked everywhere ... house, condo, house condo thru out the whole stretch ... ..
how abt condos further east in D16 ? the environment feels much better ...doesnt it ?
does anyone here get the same feeling i get ...
that from katong thru the whole TK is a nightmare ?
cramp lorongs ... cars parked everywhere ... house, condo, house condo thru out the whole stretch ... ..
how abt condos further east in D16 ? the environment feels much better ...doesnt it ?
I tink the 'main' roads are still manageable. Its always the 'lorongs' that feels tight. (esp with illegal parking etc)
D16 also same la... always the smaller roads exit/leading to condos tight during peak hours. However I do admit that there's alot of hidden Gems in D16. ie older apartments.
proud owner
09-02-11, 08:04
I tink the 'main' roads are still manageable. Its always the 'lorongs' that feels tight. (esp with illegal parking etc)
D16 also same la... always the smaller roads exit/leading to condos tight during peak hours. However I do admit that there's alot of hidden Gems in D16. ie older apartments.
even the so called 'expensive' part like Goodman road ... the roads are so narrow ....
driving along east coast road ... i feel so much better after siglap ... either the road too narrow ... or my car too big :D
its the road too narrow
even the so called 'expensive' part like Goodman road ... the roads are so narrow ....
driving along east coast road ... i feel so much better after siglap ... either the road too narrow ... or my car too big :D
its the road too narrow
Goodman road - Ahh... yes... bungalow areas 's-t-r----etched' apart... nice place... u have a house here? I love this place!
Siglap ---- yeh.. i hate the kind of 'always alert' attention... cos roads are narrow with many exit/entry roads... (i used to stay Siglap when I was a boy)
East coast road feels better.... Agree!:D
does anyone here get the same feeling i get ...
that from katong thru the whole TK is a nightmare ?
cramp lorongs ... cars parked everywhere ... house, condo, house condo thru out the whole stretch ... ..
how abt condos further east in D16 ? the environment feels much better ...doesnt it ?
the lorongs are always tight, be it D15 or D16. the tiny lanes are meant to serve only the residents and not illegal car-parking or for other ill-intended uses.
katong's still the same as 10-15 years ago to me.
even the so called 'expensive' part like Goodman road ... the roads are so narrow ....
driving along east coast road ... i feel so much better after siglap ... either the road too narrow ... or my car too big :D
its the road too narrow
agree with you. goodman road, dunman road, etc are pretty narrow.
plus, you shouldn't drive your flashy 10wheeler limo all around town eh
devilplate
09-02-11, 09:43
actually i visited quite a number of landed estates....all the lanes r pretty narrow and always got cars double park leh....the lanes r impossible to sqeeuze thru 3 cars...so always goto give way and wait lor...or high beam each other ...LOL
which landed area got wide wide inner lanes tat allows 3 cars to pass thru??
actually i visited quite a number of landed estates....all the lanes r pretty narrow and always got cars double park leh....the lanes r impossible to sqeeuze thru 3 cars...so always goto give way and wait lor...or high beam each other ...LOL
which landed area got wide wide inner lanes tat allows 3 cars to pass thru??
Devil bro i agree with you ... almost all landed areas in Singapore the lanes are narrow and there are illegal parking ...
proud owner
09-02-11, 13:12
actually i visited quite a number of landed estates....all the lanes r pretty narrow and always got cars double park leh....the lanes r impossible to sqeeuze thru 3 cars...so always goto give way and wait lor...or high beam each other ...LOL
which landed area got wide wide inner lanes tat allows 3 cars to pass thru??
have ...
maybe not the entire estate but some park have got very wide roads ....
All new roads in Singapore in landed housing areas has the same width. They are all following the same standards imposed by LTA.
The difference is in whether it's a GCB, bungalow, semi-d or terrace housing areas. Although the road width is the same, you will have less cars parked along the road in bungalow areas (because the cars are inside the compound) and more cars in terrace areas (because each household has 3 cars but only 1 car lot). :(
Maybe garment should control no of cars a household can buy based on the parking space he has. (like in japan).... bad thing to suggest....:tsk-tsk:
proud owner
09-02-11, 14:26
All new roads in Singapore in landed housing areas has the same width. They are all following the same standards imposed by LTA.
The difference is in whether it's a GCB, bungalow, semi-d or terrace housing areas. Although the road width is the same, you will have less cars parked along the road in bungalow areas (because the cars are inside the compound) and more cars in terrace areas (because each household has 3 cars but only 1 car lot). :(
Maybe garment should control no of cars a household can buy based on the parking space he has. (like in japan).... bad thing to suggest....:tsk-tsk:
really ???
without the cars parked outside ... serangoon gdn / goodman rd / etc I am very sure the roads there are narrower than those in Toh crescent, Nim garden, Thomson green etc ...
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The difference is in whether it's a GCB, bungalow, semi-d or terrace housing areas. Although the road width is the same, you will have less cars parked along the road in bungalow areas (because the cars are inside the compound) and more cars in terrace areas (because each household has 3 cars but only 1 car lot). :(
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Quite true, actually also depend on the frontage of each house. The narrower the frontage, the less width an owner can park outside. For sure, GCB and bungalow no problem. Over the weekend, was at a relative place at Opera Estate, near Silap, mostly terrace houses, and because the frontage is narrow, end up in between each terrace house, after minus the front gate, there is hardly enough to park 1 car.
really ???
without the cars parked outside ... serangoon gdn / goodman rd / etc I am very sure the roads there are narrower than those in Toh crescent, Nim garden, Thomson green etc ...
I said "new" roads.
Older roads not following same standard. If you look at Goodman road, you'll notice parts of the road has fences sticking out at the location of a new house. The new house has acquired extra bits of the state land in front of it.
blackpepperj
09-02-11, 14:43
There are some owners who prefer to park their cars outside their houses, leaving the driveway empty and blocking up the road outside. Don't know how these people think. Just to keep the driveway clean? :doh:
proud owner
09-02-11, 14:47
There are some owners who prefer to park their cars outside their houses, leaving the driveway empty and blocking up the road outside. Don't know how these people think. Just to keep the driveway clean? :doh:
like my neighbour lah
TV broadcaster ... so selfish ...
park 2 cars outside ...leave car porch to place daughter's slide ...
like my neighbour lah
TV broadcaster ... so selfish ...
park 2 cars outside ...leave car porch to place daughter's slide ...
eh?? can share who's the broadcaster??
There are some owners who prefer to park their cars outside their houses, leaving the driveway empty and blocking up the road outside. Don't know how these people think. Just to keep the driveway clean? :doh:
There are many people who choose to live in landed properties because they enjoy the extra space to move around. For those without cars, the so call car porch is actually an extended garden. Many owners thus park their cars outside their fences to enjoy the extra space.
There are also many people who prefer to park their cars within their fences as they value their cars very much.
There is really no issues if we understand and respect their needs.
There are some owners who prefer to park their cars outside their houses, leaving the driveway empty and blocking up the road outside. Don't know how these people think. Just to keep the driveway clean? :doh: Landed is valuable, so max out built-in, limited to 1 car space inside, outside road is FOC..., place dustin, chair, etc to "choop".
Gong Hei Fatt Choy to all!
Im a 1st time buyer looking for my dream home.After a year of searching,finally i've round down to 2 projects,one in Telok Kurau the other in Tanah Merah.
Both are about the same size, however one is FH and the other LH.
Price wise, TK unit is slightly higher by about 50k.
Location! TM has an existing MRT, nearer to amenities. TK unit is not so accessible, about 1.6km - 2km away from Kembangan MRT and Parkway Parade.
Both areas are exclusive for private housing only. Although one is D15 another is D17.
Which one will u choose???:doh:
Practically, TK prices are better than TM. TM is a bit too far. If you consider TM, might as well consider Simei which is cheaper.
blackpepperj
09-02-11, 17:04
There are many people who choose to live in landed properties because they enjoy the extra space to move around. For those without cars, the so call car porch is actually an extended garden. Many owners thus park their cars outside their fences to enjoy the extra space.
There are also many people who prefer to park their cars within their fences as they value their cars very much.
There is really no issues if we understand and respect their needs.
A car porch/driveway should be used as intended.....for parking cars. Owners who choose to park their cars outside their houses, when there is adequate space for them to park within their property, are IMO simply inconsiderate and selfish. If the owner has more than 1 car, then yes, i can understand, but not when every car the owner has are parked outside mah.
The roads along private estates are typically narrow as most have stated here, so why exacerbate the traffic conditions just so that one has the extra space? If we expect others to respect their needs, they should also respect other road users needs as well.
Everytime i will see those poor rubbish collection guys having to squeeze through cars along the road.
blackpepperj
09-02-11, 17:14
like my neighbour lah
TV broadcaster ... so selfish ...
park 2 cars outside ...leave car porch to place daughter's slide ...
My neighbour as well, like to park his Ferrari outside, leave his carporch empty. Drivers all super careful when passing his car :D
I think owners who parked their cars outside a narrow road are inconsiderate. If it's a wide enough road, i still think it's ok..
Seletar Hills got a lot of narrow roads.. last time I went to Nim Green area, the road is 1 lane on each side, but a lot of house owners park their cars outside on either side. So basically, you really have to squeeze in between cars..
Anyway, cut long story short... I squeeze past and went to the middle house to pick up someone. I wanted to u-turn to get out..(coz i didn't go into the house as they already park a car inside) No space.. And I just push the back of my car against another car(bumper touch bumper) ..then I just move off..haha... the space was that tight.. no choice.
I hate it when landed property owners use bins or chairs to block the roads outside to prevent public from parking. It is public road afterall but they treat it as if it is theirs. Very selfish.
Living on landed properties has its challenges. Imagine, when one returns home only to find someone else has parked his car right next to his gate? The owner would have no choice but to park further away or worst case, few lanes away from his home.
Even LTA has shown great understanding toward people living in landed estates. Single while lines and double yellow lines are drawn only when absolutely necessary so that owners could park their cars along the road in these estates.
Most owners convert their little gardens into car porches just so that they could ensure a parking space.
Hopefully, all road users could show a little empathy and understanding and we can all live in harmony.
10-15mins walk to MRT in S'pore weather is :tsk-tsk: . In office wear somemore. I'm sure females will complain.
I will not complaint if walking together with female who's wearing something close to transparent for 10-15 min in sg weather :D :D
To be fair, I tink every owner/occupier of these landed ppties have their right to park outside their house.
Wat irks me is those who park at pte estates and walk 5mins outside to eat/drink etc at the coffeeshops just so they can save on parking coupons etc etc..... :mad:
This include those big cement trucks, big company lorries etc etc. Wunder if can call LTA enforcements to summon them? Just worried kenna shoot in own leg cos in the end, LTA paint single white line. Game over.. all cannot park@#?! :spliff2:
i know of one house who put CCTV outside his house. There used to be lots of lorries park there overnight. that problem has since disappeared. :cheers1:
Chillyred888
10-02-11, 13:29
1 of the project in lorong m is le merrit, lorong n is nclave,emprado suites or ambrosia..i m sure there are also a few other small projects around there.
my advise is not to buy any of them at all.
reason: no security guard,small swimming pool(more like a big bath tub),small gym,no underground carpark,high maintenance fees,not easily accessible to amenities,bad feng shui:sharp pointed roof tops n tv antennas pointing at your unit from your neighbour landed properties..:doh:[/quote]
Hey!
U are so right! I also narrow that few down. I went for viewing again today and i spotted those "sharp edge" and "poison arrows"... Saw a bird perch on top of one the the antenna from the bedroom. :scared-5:
You guys are are really detailed.
I realised most of the units i have viewed have not been sold. It seems hard to buy cos owner's would buldge on the price and also it is so hard to sell! Don't even think of renting..
Chillyred888
10-02-11, 13:31
reason: no security guard,small swimming pool(more like a big bath tub),small gym,no underground carpark,high maintenance fees,not easily accessible to amenities,bad feng shui:sharp pointed roof tops n tv antennas pointing at your unit from your neighbour landed properties..:doh:
Hey!
U are so right! I went for viewing again today and i spotted those "sharp edge" and "poison arrows"... Saw a bird perch on top of one the the antenna from the bedroom. :scared-5:
You guys are are really detailed.
I realised most of the units i have viewed have not been sold. It seems hard to buy cos owner's would buldge on the price and also it is so hard to sell! Don't need to even think of renting...
Chillyred888
10-02-11, 13:50
Go for Lorong G, mark my words.
Wow!
Got future MRT? :D :D :D
Wow!
Got future MRT? :D :D :D
Dun need future... there is a exisiting MRT station there.
proud owner
10-02-11, 14:39
My neighbour as well, like to park his Ferrari outside, leave his carporch empty. Drivers all super careful when passing his car :D
very selfish
hope some aspiring michael faye sign on his car
proud owner
10-02-11, 14:41
i know of one house who put CCTV outside his house. There used to be lots of lorries park there overnight. that problem has since disappeared. :cheers1:
what abt other cars ?
not fair if only complain about trucks right ?
anyway this kind of thing if get URA involved they will simply draw lines ..then in the end all kena even residents also cannot park LPPL
Regulators
10-02-11, 22:32
Lorong G is 5 min walk to kembangan mrt, don't need future mrt. It is in the best of both worlds, to be in d15 and yet near mrt and eateries so what do you think?
Wow!
Got future MRT? :D :D :D
Chillyred888
11-02-11, 09:42
Lorong G is 5 min walk to kembangan mrt, don't need future mrt. It is in the best of both worlds, to be in d15 and yet near mrt and eateries so what do you think?
yes agree near to food place and mrt in Lor G,think for own stay i'd prefer quieter side of TK as i drive so transport not top priority.
devilplate
11-02-11, 09:47
yes agree near to food place and mrt in Lor G,think for own stay i'd prefer quieter side of TK as i drive so transport not top priority.
u mean N,M quieter den G? :confused:
Regulators
11-02-11, 12:30
Lor G is much quieter than N and M, you may want to take a drive down and see
yes agree near to food place and mrt in Lor G,think for own stay i'd prefer quieter side of TK as i drive so transport not top priority.
I did a survey too and concluded indeed Lrg G is really the best in terms of T Kurau location - but has to be those projects nearer to the Siglap connector.
This means basically Treeline and if you dont mind older and LH, Telok Indah.
There are some other projects but its a bit further into the middle of the lorong, so have to walk abit.
But in terms of MRT access and food, amenities, this is probably the best located lorong.
Small projects w/o security is worst, wear and tear will high...., no one heard of those projects...stalemate...or rather STALE MADE
Chillyred888
11-02-11, 20:15
I went to Lor G..
Near to MRT... BUT... HOSPITAL is nearer.. :scared-5: :scared-5: :scared-5:
Pretty near to Joo Chiat...
Regulators
11-02-11, 20:39
Lor g is undervalued and yet it offers greater convenience than people staying in lor n or m. If talking about hospital can't fight with novena lol
I went to Lor G..
Near to MRT... BUT... HOSPITAL is nearer.. :scared-5: :scared-5: :scared-5:
Pretty near to Joo Chiat...
I went to Lor G..
Near to MRT... BUT... HOSPITAL is nearer.. :scared-5: :scared-5: :scared-5:
Pretty near to Joo Chiat...
Chilly,
Travel all the way to the end (next to the siglap park connector) there is no hospital next to it.
Lorong G or H (next to siglap park connector)
Chilly,
Travel all the way to the end (next to the siglap park connector) there is no hospital next to it.
Lorong G or H (next to siglap park connector)
Yeah, agree ... We talking about hospital or talking about MRT here?
Lorong G is quite a long road, so as said, you go at the end towards Siglap Connector, then you see if the location good or no good... :cheers6:
Hospital is at the other far end lar...
Another 'advantage' of LrG is there are two side roads to connect into Changi Road, so compared to other lorongs, there are actually 3 entry and exit points for this particular lorong.
LrH is also nicely located, especially Verte and a couple of smaller projects nearby - but again, must be near to the Siglap Connector.
Those middle lorong or towards city end, no point to consider - too far to walk to MRT.
Definitely an undervalued area with a nice ambience.
Hi Chilly,
I have recently moved to TK area near to Siglap Park Connector.
Initially, I have never considered moving to TK area as there seems to be lots of negative comments abt narrow road, one-side parking, inconvenience, far from MRT, near to red light Joo Chiat, etc etc (you know it too well by now).
By chance and destiny, however, I bought a unit at Lor K (near connector) in Sept last year and from the bottom of my heart, I have to say, no regrets.
It's really peaceful and the area is infused with lots of green energy.
It takes me 10 min walk to Kembangan mrt (though initially it felt a bit far but I'm getting very used to it and loving the walk in the morning and late afternoon). Siglap Park Connector is really fun to hang around. Lots of beautiful and funny dogs, old couple holding hand strolling the TK Park, wheel-chaired elderly having exercises, men and women jogging and cyling, families outing, kids playing at the park's playground, some ladies having line dance early in the morning and late afternoon, birds chirping here and there, and most important, the air is fresh (you can feel the difference once you walk along Siglap Park Connector comparing it to the Trumps area). It's very laid back. I'd often cycle after work or on weekends to ECP via the connector within 5 min.
I don't see any difficulties in renting out those condos nearer to the Connector. Are you aware there is a Far East Service Apartment right at the end of Lor K? Wwhy do you think Far East is invested there? There are a lot of westeners, chinese, and Japanese renting that area. In my small development, all units are fully occupied and 50% are rented out.
Like you, I'm in love with the big balcony in my apartment facing greeneries and swimming pool. If you are concerned about the poison arrows or the ugly antenna, you can buy mid floor unit.
I have no denial that the road is quite narrow and it takes patience when there is a car coming from the opposite side. But hey..we need to learn how to share and be courteous everywhere we drive, don't we?
Lor G has the closest proximity to MRT and one of my friend just got one unit there recently (near to the connector).
The above are my personal opinion and in no way trying to be in conflict with other contributors here. Consider your needs and lifestyle (what is negotiable and non-negotiable conditions) and horizon of investment. There is always pros and cons for any kind of place. You just need to get a good deal (no rush). With the stringent measures from the govt, the ball is very much in the buyer court.
Good luck for your search. Hope you find the right home.
That is great info Meiti.
I bought an unit Lorong H (The Verte) ... has been waiting for it TOP ... and now with your feedback, I am really looking forward to move when it is ready :)
Verte is a good choice. Hope you will enjoy TK as much as I do.
Who knows we may bump into each other there :)
Verte is a good choice. Hope you will enjoy TK as much as I do.
Who knows we may bump into each other there :)
Hi Meiti,
I have been staying in Blu Coral for more than a year now. Can't agree with you more on the Siglap Park Connector.
Recently, they have completed the drain-widening work on Lor L and it has a wide pavement leading to the connector, very suitable for cycling and strolling.
Kellogs,
They are slowly removing the scaffolding for Verte and working on the interior retrofitting, guess it will be completed by 3rd quarter of this year.
Thank you Don. I am going to take a look after working today hehehe
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