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Met my agent at the appreciation dinner and he shared that 500++ units sold already and two more stacks, 30 units each not yet release for sales. Piling work has started with crane, excavator onsite.
Btw, Sapphire prices hit $690psf, eight courtyards pulling the neighbor prices up.
bargain hunter
27-06-11, 14:01
http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_C1BBB6B446B102B7482578BC0016153E/$file/KSH_Eight_Courtyards.pdf?openelement
devilplate
27-06-11, 15:47
http://info.sgx.com/webcoranncatth.nsf/VwAttachments/Att_C1BBB6B446B102B7482578BC0016153E/$file/KSH_Eight_Courtyards.pdf?openelement
Ksh hf been doing mid to high end projects.....gd for 8cy...mabe not much new prime launches so they aso do mass market? Hehe
linchong84
27-06-11, 16:14
Ksh hf been doing mid to high end projects.....gd for 8cy...mabe not much new prime launches so they aso do mass market? Hehe
looks too low a price to me.. not even 200psf....
devilplate
27-06-11, 17:02
looks too low a price to me.. not even 200psf....
I tink waterbank tendered at ard 220psf only which got marble flooring n decent kitchen appliances
I always tot construction alone cost about 200-250psf for mass market now....perhaps scala is an exception
Double bay less den 200psf....tats y can sell at 650psf....same goes to caspian n micasa....
linchong84
27-06-11, 17:12
I tink waterbank tendered at ard 220psf only which got marble flooring n decent kitchen appliances
I always tot construction alone cost about 200-250psf for mass market now....perhaps scala is an exception
Double bay less den 200psf....tats y can sell at 650psf....same goes to caspian n micasa....
wa.. then hedges park 357psf construction cost by lian beng a bit chop carrot huh..
looks too low a price to me.. not even 200psf....
Err how did u get this number? I saw in property guru tat the land is 285559 square feet
So 138.4million/ land area us abt 484psf....
wa.. then hedges park 357psf construction cost by lian beng a bit chop carrot huh..
Ah "Beng" pricing just like in Sim Lim....
devilplate
28-06-11, 14:57
Err how did u get this number? I saw in property guru tat the land is 285559 square feet
So 138.4million/ land area us abt 484psf....
U forgot plot ratio 2.5
So 138.4/(285559x2.5)=193psf
linchong84
28-06-11, 15:38
It doesn't makes much sense that Hedges park construction cost is almost double of 8cy when both appeal to same market at around same price.. Do plots of lower ratio cost more to build??
devilplate
28-06-11, 16:15
It doesn't makes much sense that Hedges park construction cost is almost double of 8cy when both appeal to same market at around same price.. Do plots of lower ratio cost more to build??
Dun tink so....unless much smaller gfa which cannot enjoy economy of scale
But hedges park provide better furnishing n aso give free fridge n washer lor....
U forgot plot ratio 2.5
So 138.4/(285559x2.5)=193psf
Hmm with tat , does it mean tat the furnishing will not be as good?
devilplate
28-06-11, 17:02
Hmm with tat , does it mean tat the furnishing will not be as good?
Wat u see is wat u get at the showflat lor
devilplate
28-06-11, 17:03
Dun tink so....unless much smaller gfa which cannot enjoy economy of scale
But hedges park provide better furnishing n aso give free fridge n washer lor....
And i believe more fanciful design n water features cud be the reason aso la
8cy got extensive landscaping instead of fanciful water features
bargain hunter
28-06-11, 17:05
in stock market theory, we should buy lian beng and short ksh. hahaha :D
U forgot plot ratio 2.5
So 138.4/(285559x2.5)=193psf
linchong84
28-06-11, 17:11
Dun tink so....unless much smaller gfa which cannot enjoy economy of scale
But hedges park provide better furnishing n aso give free fridge n washer lor....
I went to both and found out that hedges finishing is only better in terms of its compressed marble living room.. the rest are the same.. anyway i feel, for a mass market condo, 8cy showflat looks quite solid..
compressed marble vs tiles living room cant possibly constitute a difference of 160psf construction cost.. and the fridge and washer will be given by hong leong not lian beng right.. perhaps the 8cy engages a lot of other sub-contractors to build different stuff, swimming pool, clubhouse etc.. otherwise 193psf is really too low to be believable..
devilplate
28-06-11, 17:16
I went to both and found out that hedges finishing is only better in terms of its compressed marble living room.. the rest are the same.. anyway i feel, for a mass market condo, 8cy showflat looks quite solid..
compressed marble vs tiles living room cant possibly constitute a difference of 160psf construction cost.. and the fridge and washer will be given by hong leong not lian beng right.. perhaps the 8cy engages a lot of other sub-contractors to build different stuff, swimming pool, clubhouse etc.. otherwise 193psf is really too low to be believable..
Waterbank only 220psf wor....natural marble somemore leh:beats-me-man:
Oh ya...scala n hedges park both basement parking whereas, 8cy, wb etc all mscp....mabe tats y
bargain hunter
28-06-11, 17:28
i am sure ksh bidding at lower margins also helps to bring the number down. :ashamed1:
Waterbank only 220psf wor....natural marble somemore leh:beats-me-man:
Oh ya...scala n hedges park both basement parking whereas, 8cy, wb etc all mscp....mabe tats y
devilplate
28-06-11, 17:30
i am sure ksh bidding at lower margins also helps to bring the number down. :ashamed1:
Ksh so despo bcoz no high end projects to bid? Haha
I went to both and found out that hedges finishing is only better in terms of its compressed marble living room.. the rest are the same.. anyway i feel, for a mass market condo, 8cy showflat looks quite solid..
compressed marble vs tiles living room cant possibly constitute a difference of 160psf construction cost.. and the fridge and washer will be given by hong leong not lian beng right.. perhaps the 8cy engages a lot of other sub-contractors to build different stuff, swimming pool, clubhouse etc.. otherwise 193psf is really too low to be believable..
finishing maybe solid but location still cannot beat the other two.
devilplate
28-06-11, 17:34
finishing maybe solid but location still cannot beat the other two.
Which other 2? To me, 8cy location is on par or better den hedges...lol
Which other 2? To me, 8cy location is on par or better den hedges...lolscala n wb
devilplate
28-06-11, 17:44
scala n wb
Abit out of point....anyway wb showflat definitely more solid den 8cy....haha:ashamed1:
Abit out of point....anyway wb showflat definitely more solid den 8cy....haha:ashamed1:
tot u were comparing wb, scala n 8cy....pai seh
wb, scala not launched at the same time as 8cy and hedges and they are also not in the OCR.
Not relevant comparison for this context.
Anyway, construction progress getting along fine for 8cy, saw alot of activities and heavy machinery on the land.
devilplate
29-06-11, 15:18
wb, scala not launched at the same time as 8cy and hedges and they are also not in the OCR.
Not relevant comparison for this context.
Anyway, construction progress getting along fine for 8cy, saw alot of activities and heavy machinery on the land.
Construction oredi started?
wb, scala not launched at the same time as 8cy and hedges and they are also not in the OCR.
Not relevant comparison for this context.
Anyway, construction progress getting along fine for 8cy, saw alot of activities and heavy machinery on the land.
Hello , my Windows are facing the south n southeast direction. Any expert
Can advise if it is going to be hot or windy?
rattydrama
29-06-11, 19:45
Hello , my Windows are facing the south n southeast direction. Any expert
Can advise if it is going to be hot or windy?
imho, it is a good facing.
I hope it is not blocked by another blk.
imho, it is a good facing.
I hope it is not blocked by another blk.
should be windy.
My kitchen windows facing south and they get plenty of wind
rattydrama
29-06-11, 21:47
should be windy.
My kitchen windows facing south and they get plenty of wind
what about sound west direction? I think it is super windy.
I think as long as there is an opened window on each end of the house, the wind passage will be up and flowing.
Construction oredi started?
My 15% has been deducted.
rattydrama
29-06-11, 23:45
My 15% has been deducted.
u mean 20% + 15%?
If its a total 20% then not necessary to have any work now... fundation will complete about 6-9 months after commencement of work which should render another 10% payment from you after the first 20% payment.
btw, possible to complete within 18 months if they are fast enough. but clift maybe built slowly cos of hidden agenda from feo...wanna push up top floor selling price so cannot complete too early.....lol...
if it is a sold out project, no incentive for contractor/main con to build slowly.
u mean 20% + 15%?
If its a total 20% then not necessary to have any work now... fundation will complete about 6-9 months after commencement of work which should render another 10% payment from you after the first 20% payment.
btw, possible to complete within 18 months if they are fast enough. but clift maybe built slowly cos of hidden agenda from feo...wanna push up top floor selling price so cannot complete too early.....lol...
if it is a sold out project, no incentive for contractor/main con to build slowly.
15% of the downpayment. I think 8cy should build quite fast.
rattydrama
30-06-11, 00:28
15% of the downpayment. I think 8cy should build quite fast.
standard ... it comes with any new buys.:D upfront 20%..(5% +15%)
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/companies/story/0,4574,445038-1309291140,00.html?
Published June 28, 2011
KSH wins $138.4m condo contract
It will construct 654-unit Eight Courtyards near Yishun MRT station
By CARINE LEE
KSH Holdings has won a $138.4 million contract to construct Eight Courtyards - a 99-year leasehold condominium development near Yishun MRT station.
The construction, property development and property management group was awarded the project by Yishun Gold Pte Ltd, a joint-venture company of Frasers Centrepoint and Far East Organization.
The 654-unit condo will be at the crossroads of Yishun Ave 2, Yishun Ave 7 and Canberra Drive. It is named Eight Courtyards for its distinctive feature of eight courtyards.
Construction is slated to commence in December this year and will take 29 months to complete.
The newest contract boosted the existing book order of KSH Holdings to about $360 million. 'The unfulfilled contract value for all existing contracts on hand is expected to be completed by May 2014,' it said.
The luxurious residential development will have five blocks of 14-storey and seven blocks of 15-storey residential buildings, a basement carpark, a multi-storey carpark, two retail shops and other communal facilities.
'This contract underscores KSH's strong track record and excellent reputation in the industry and is testament to our quality services,' said Choo Chee Onn, executive chairman and managing director of KSH Holdings.
A main contractor in both the public and private construction sectors in Singapore, KSH Holdings is currently constructing two new primary schools for the Ministry of Education as well as a four-storey Education Resource Centre, five blocks of common facility buildings and two blocks of undergraduate residential colleges for National University of Singapore.
In the private sector, KSH Holdings is currently constructing Ardmore Three in Ardmore Park and Centennia Suites in River Valley. Other developments are Madison Residences in Bukit Timah and Watten Residences.
Some of KSH's completed high-end residential projects are The Orange Grove in Stevens Road and Marina Collection, Seascape, The Coast and Turquoise in Sentosa Cove.
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/sub/companies/story/0,4574,445038-1309291140,00.html?
Published June 28, 2011
KSH wins $138.4m condo contract
It will construct 654-unit Eight Courtyards near Yishun MRT station
By CARINE LEE
KSH Holdings has won a $138.4 million contract to construct Eight Courtyards - a 99-year leasehold condominium development near Yishun MRT station.
The construction, property development and property management group was awarded the project by Yishun Gold Pte Ltd, a joint-venture company of Frasers Centrepoint and Far East Organization.
The 654-unit condo will be at the crossroads of Yishun Ave 2, Yishun Ave 7 and Canberra Drive. It is named Eight Courtyards for its distinctive feature of eight courtyards.
Construction is slated to commence in December this year and will take 29 months to complete.
The newest contract boosted the existing book order of KSH Holdings to about $360 million. 'The unfulfilled contract value for all existing contracts on hand is expected to be completed by May 2014,' it said.
The luxurious residential development will have five blocks of 14-storey and seven blocks of 15-storey residential buildings, a basement carpark, a multi-storey carpark, two retail shops and other communal facilities.
'This contract underscores KSH's strong track record and excellent reputation in the industry and is testament to our quality services,' said Choo Chee Onn, executive chairman and managing director of KSH Holdings.
A main contractor in both the public and private construction sectors in Singapore, KSH Holdings is currently constructing two new primary schools for the Ministry of Education as well as a four-storey Education Resource Centre, five blocks of common facility buildings and two blocks of undergraduate residential colleges for National University of Singapore.
In the private sector, KSH Holdings is currently constructing Ardmore Three in Ardmore Park and Centennia Suites in River Valley. Other developments are Madison Residences in Bukit Timah and Watten Residences.
Some of KSH's completed high-end residential projects are The Orange Grove in Stevens Road and Marina Collection, Seascape, The Coast and Turquoise in Sentosa Cove.
Construction Start: Dec 2011
Duration : 29 months
TOP: May 2014?
standard ... it comes with any new buys.:D upfront 20%..(5% +15%)
Yes yes, just clarifying.... lots of machinery and stuff onsite at 8cy.
kingkong1984
30-06-11, 09:10
Do quickly then the same team can do next door...
Make more money and faster.
The cheapest unit left now is a 3 bedroom compact beside the mrt track #07-34 980sqft $780560 at 797psf.
:(
The cheapest unit left now is a 3 bedroom compact beside the mrt track #07-34 980sqft $780560 at 797psf.
:(
Looks cheap
Hi,
To all those who has been viewing other condos, besides having full condo facilities which is common to all condos, what do you think of the design of 8 courtyards? I have view miltonia , hedges park on line, i feel that the condo design is more futuristic look and 8 courtyards is err.. more normal except the wellness and the spa courtyard. THe other courtyard like inspirational , discovery hmmm. nothing special.. what is your view?
Thats why it is the cheapest new launch now. Where to find a new full condo at less than 800psf?
:beats-me-man:
Thats why it is the cheapest new launch now. Where to find a new full condo at less than 800psf?
:beats-me-man:
No leh, i bought a 2 bedroom at 842psf
No leh, i bought a 2 bedroom at 842psf
Yours must be the compact 2 bedroom 753sqft one or other pool facing stacks high floor units?
Those "normal" lower floor 2 bedroom units mostly below or low 800psf.
kingkong1984
05-08-11, 21:35
Base line 800 psf n above Liao...
750 psf for big units... Hard to find good units at 750 psf Liao...
Yours must be the compact 2 bedroom 753sqft one or other pool facing stacks high floor units?
Those "normal" lower floor 2 bedroom units mostly below or low 800psf.
Mine is a 753sqft....
http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/Library/images/constructionprogress/FCH_construction_8courtyard_01.jpg
Progress On Site For 8 Courtyards As Of End July 2011 (http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/contentview.aspx?article_id=12)
S/N Items Progress Status
1 Foundation Work In Progress
2 Reinforced Concrete Framework Nil
3 Brick Walls Nil
4 Ceilings Nil
5 Door and Window Frames Nil
6 Car Parks, Roads and Drains Nil
7 TOP issued Nil
http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/Library/images/constructionprogress/FCH_construction_8courtyard_01.jpg
Progress On Site For 8 Courtyards As Of End July 2011 (http://www.fraserscentrepointhomes.com/contentview.aspx?article_id=12)
S/N Items Progress Status
1 Foundation Work In Progress
2 Reinforced Concrete Framework Nil
3 Brick Walls Nil
4 Ceilings Nil
5 Door and Window Frames Nil
6 Car Parks, Roads and Drains Nil
7 TOP issued Nil
Thanks for the update...
I wonder where the Eight Courtyards owners are. Seems like only myself and lindatlc.
devilplate
17-08-11, 11:44
I wonder where the Eight Courtyards owners are. Seems like only myself and lindatlc.
This forum got more investors mah
8cy more for own stay
kingkong1984
04-09-11, 12:22
This forum got more investors mah
8cy more for own stay
Yup... I worry for 8cy buyers if they bought for investment... :banghead:
duno about unit layout.. this one seems attractive
http://www.propertyguru.com.sg/listing/5552382/for-sale-eight-courtyards
kingkong1984
04-09-11, 12:27
duplicated
is this for real or just another trick by the agent to get new customer?
79% sold, approx 516 units sold.
Actually stack 34 of tower G is my ideal layout of a 3 bedroom compact unit...the price is right too. But it is just too close to the mrt track. :(
Yup, if not for the MRT track and main road that stack G is real close to.... 8CY would have been a sold out.
Layout is pretty efficient for 8CY.
can check with guys here, are there any coffee shops or eateries within 100m to 200m? cant imagine has to travel far all the time for food...
can check with guys here, are there any coffee shops or eateries within 100m to 200m? cant imagine has to travel far all the time for food...
there is a coffee shop across the road in the industrial estate beside the hindu temple...got this taste of Thailand stall very popular...
there is a coffee shop across the road in the industrial estate beside the hindu temple...got this taste of Thailand stall very popular...
Yup, good long queue for good Thai food.
There is another kopitiam nestled inside the HDB opp. 8CY.
There is one famous nasi lemak store after Yishun near the main road, towards Sembawang. :D
There is one famous nasi lemak store after Yishun near the main road, towards Sembawang. :D
Chong Bang nasi lemak
http://www.chongpangnasilemak.com/
Chong Bang nasi lemak
http://www.chongpangnasilemak.com/
The parking is alway a problem. Main road got yellow zi zag, and traffic warent super siao onz...Got t park opp hdb t walk overhead bridge ...
Used t frequent the store years ago....
Yup, good long queue for good Thai food.
There is another kopitiam nestled inside the HDB opp. 8CY.
ya i know abt the thai food... but cant be always eat that one leh... but nice lah...
oh got kopitiam ah? didnt see that from main road. v nestled inside is it? haha!
chong bang too far lah... if go there think many other stuff along the way liao :p ya that nasi lemak is nice haha!
Chong Pang market better with more hawker food variety. Fishball noodles are good and economic rice is really economic.
Gunner, you just bought a unit at 8cy?
Just drove past 8cy, more activities going on at the construction site.
Just drove past 8cy, more activities going on at the construction site.
Dun know whether the sales / showroom stil available or not.
more development coming up, potential to have new MRT station soon, If not residence there sure not happy. Yishun MRt station very pack liao. during wk hour all squeeze to Yishun MRt..very unconvinence. new EC site tender very high price. I believed 8 c-yard price may up when new EC launch. My sis consider to get a unit there , any one can tell me worth to upgrade now? Thank you.
phantom_opera
09-11-11, 17:44
Nanyang Good morning in SSC sells very good cibatta orange kaya toast :spliff:
Dun know whether the sales / showroom stil available or not.
Yes showroom is still available
Yes showroom is still available
Thank you..
Stack E2 loook not bad. left 11 floor only.
any one can comment stck 25 blk E2 poolview and MSCP garden view, facing south now selling for 810psf(1163), worth to buy? my sis like the unit very much.
devilplate
11-11-11, 13:17
Stack E2 loook not bad. left 11 floor only.
any one can comment stck 25 blk E2 poolview and MSCP garden view, facing south now selling for 810psf(1163), worth to buy? my sis like the unit very much.
not bad.....how about parc vera? Nearer to town if drives
not bad.....how about parc vera? Nearer to town if drives
She like to stay Yishun , cant understand why. How mch parc vera psf high floor poolview?
devilplate
11-11-11, 13:40
She like to stay Yishun , cant understand why. How mch parc vera psf high floor poolview?
ard 900psf for 10xxsqft 3bdr
Ask her go take a look before putting down the money
ard 900psf for 10xxsqft 3bdr
Ask her go take a look before putting down the money
Parvera at hougang by Sim Lian, ok i ask her go n take a
look. thank you
Buy yishun, most of the improvements are done for hougang already.
Upside is at north.
Hi, does anyone know how much the current discount?
Tq
Hi, does anyone know how much the current discount?
Tq
12% + 1%(if u previous centerpoint home owner)
Buy yishun, most of the improvements are done for hougang already.
Upside is at north.
You are right. MND headed by mr Khaw sure will develop north part. Hope fully new MRT station coming soon. Just a station only track already really at NS12.
You are right. MND headed by mr Khaw sure will develop north part. Hope fully new MRT station coming soon. Just a station only track already really at NS12.
aiya, if it's for own stay who cares upside or downside. not like one wld like to shift house every 1-2yrs.
my view is, decide on objective: long term or short term. long term, every property has upside!
aiya, if it's for own stay who cares upside or downside. not like one wld like to shift house every 1-2yrs.
my view is, decide on objective: long term or short term. long term, every property has upside!
You are right.. just stay on.
You are right. MND headed by mr Khaw sure will develop north part. Hope fully new MRT station coming soon. Just a station only track already really at NS12.
NS12 is speculative. Yishun will still do well regardless. Residential site near Miltonia area to break-even at $750psf and sell at $850-$900psf.
8cy is a steal and even more so when NSE is ready.
NS12 is speculative. Yishun will still do well regardless. Residential site near Miltonia area to break-even at $750psf and sell at $850-$900psf.
8cy is a steal and even more so when NSE is ready.
I'm not vested in D27 but I must say Miltonia Residences is very good buy also given the upcoming Seletar airport and resort low rise character.
I'm not vested in D27 but I must say Miltonia Residences is very good buy also given the upcoming Seletar airport and resort low rise character.
Not referring to Miltonia Residences. There is another plot beside it.
My view of 8courtyards is that although it is cheap, rate of appreciation would be slower given its location as it's not exactly near MRT or amenities. Whereas Miltonia area is nearer to CTE and Seletar, locationally more attractive as the large empty plots along Ave 1 all slated for pte residential in the future, will become a very private enclave by the reservoir....hence more attractive to me.
My view of 8courtyards is that although it is cheap, rate of appreciation would be slower given its location as it's not exactly near MRT or amenities. Whereas Miltonia area is nearer to CTE and Seletar, locationally more attractive as the large empty plots along Ave 1 all slated for pte residential in the future, will become a very private enclave by the reservoir....hence more attractive to me.
Different strategy I guess.
To me, property must be as liquid as possible. Segment between HDB upgraders and mass market is the best. Yields are also the best. Capital gains game is over liao as the big run up is done. Strategy now is a pure yield game with ability to liquidate easily when necessary.
D9, D10 or Sentosa Cove is most attractive to anyone but how many dare to stomach the risk at this point?
Different strategy I guess.
To me, property must be as liquid as possible. Segment between HDB upgraders and mass market is the best. Yields are also the best. Capital gains game is over liao as the big run up is done. Strategy now is a pure yield game with ability to liquidate easily when necessary.
D9, D10 or Sentosa Cove is most attractive to anyone but how many dare to stomach the risk at this point?
Yes agree with your strategy. I assume yield wld be dependent on the following 3As for mass market segment:
1) accessibility (assumption: most tenants do not drive)
2) amenities (assumption: most tenants eat out, carry their groceries home etc)
3) attractiveness (assumption: most tenants tend to want value for money for their rental I.e good-facing, facilities, classy condo with affordable rental)
And yields for new mass market condos largely untested because most budget renters will rent older units for a lower price.
Yes agree with your strategy. I assume yield wld be dependent on the following 3As for mass market segment:
1) accessibility (assumption: most tenants do not drive)
2) amenities (assumption: most tenants eat out, carry their groceries home etc)
3) attractiveness (assumption: most tenants tend to want value for money for their rental I.e good-facing, facilities, classy condo with affordable rental)
And yields for new mass market condos largely untested because most budget renters will rent older units for a lower price.
I have an older condo ready to rent out and I will shift into the new one. :D
NS12 is speculative. Yishun will still do well regardless. Residential site near Miltonia area to break-even at $750psf and sell at $850-$900psf.
8cy is a steal and even more so when NSE is ready.
My Bro get a unit there already. dun know whether he do the right choice. I think he hope for new MRt.
My Bro get a unit there already. dun know whether he do the right choice. I think he hope for new MRt.
NS12 got to wait patiently.
Don't think too much about the MRT station. It's a bonus to have.
Yishun MRT isn't that far as well, more over straight road from 8cy to Yishun (900m) MRT.
Very fast with shuttle or public feeder bus.
I currently live 700m away from MRT, i also take a feeder, costs me $0.03. Since it's distance-based fare system now, i think the whole idea of living very near a MRT station idea isn't as attractive as before.
I live right on top of an MRT station before, sometimes the crowd gets real giddy during weekends especially if it's a integrated mall as well.
Just wait till NSE ready. Two expressways to reach home.
The few sites opposite Sapphire slated for business usage.
Easy to commute to JB when the MRT link is ready. In fact, tenders are being called to choose the bid participants for construction.
The real place to chill out is in the north and even further north outside of Singapore.
Johor Bahru is improving as well, should take a drive in and check out.... More police patrolling, new developments and etc.....
Plus, Peter Lim investing $2billion with Johor Royal Family....
I will want to be closer to a place that I can get away during weekends and anytime I wish as well.
http://www.iskandarproject.com/visitjohorpremiumoutlet.html
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/20/nation/9131906&sec=nation
http://www.iskandarproject.com/visitjohorpremiumoutlet.html
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/7/20/nation/9131906&sec=nation
Good stuff! didn't know about Johor Premium Outlets!
NS12 got to wait patiently.
Don't think too much about the MRT station. It's a bonus to have.
Yishun MRT isn't that far as well, more over straight road from 8cy to Yishun (900m) MRT.
Very fast with shuttle or public feeder bus.
I currently live 700m away from MRT, i also take a feeder, costs me $0.03. Since it's distance-based fare system now, i think the whole idea of living very near a MRT station idea isn't as attractive as before.
I live right on top of an MRT station before, sometimes the crowd gets real giddy during weekends especially if it's a integrated mall as well.
Just wait till NSE ready. Two expressways to reach home.
The few sites opposite Sapphire slated for business usage.
Easy to commute to JB when the MRT link is ready. In fact, tenders are being called to choose the bid participants for construction.
The real place to chill out is in the north and even further north outside of Singapore.
Johor Bahru is improving as well, should take a drive in and check out.... More police patrolling, new developments and etc.....
Plus, Peter Lim investing $2billion with Johor Royal Family....
I will want to be closer to a place that I can get away during weekends and anytime I wish as well.
JB still long way to go , my landed double storey at JB just rent RM850/= since last 5 year, the rental less one HDB bedroom in singapore. Unless you invest shop house. I prefer Kl and Penang, better return. In Spore Yishun is good place to stay, condo price still reasonable, not far from city, very attractive, Psf not that high based on my psf data base if compred with other part of Spore. I not eligible for EC, otherwise EC good to invest for own stay.
Good stuff! didn't know about Johor Premium Outlets!
heard they are gonna be the next big thing :D
heard they are gonna be the next big thing :D
yup the premium outlets in JB will be exciting for us singaporeans to shop. but hor, pple will not simply move to North just to be close to premium outlets lah...
rattydrama
19-11-11, 18:07
wait 4 the land beside woodlands mrt to be launched. More interesting.
yup the premium outlets in JB will be exciting for us singaporeans to shop. but hor, pple will not simply move to North just to be close to premium outlets lah...
You shd buy your favored telok Kurau, one of the district that I expect will drop severely if there is a downturn. Don't worry, my severe is 20%. But worry coz downturn isn't here yet.
Just wait for the launches come up and you will see North has the one of the healthiest demand in Singapore despite the gloom.
CCR and RCR will be severely hit and TK will be among the worst based on my homework.
devilplate
20-11-11, 23:37
You shd buy your favored telok Kurau, one of the district that I expect will drop severely if there is a downturn. Don't worry, my severe is 20%. But worry coz downturn isn't here yet.
Just wait for the launches come up and you will see North has the one of the healthiest demand in Singapore despite the gloom.
CCR and RCR will be severely hit and TK will be among the worst based on my homework.
so confident....i like it
y TK will drop the most ar....
so confident....i like it
y TK will drop the most ar....
Simply because someareass do not deserve the value.
From a social and psychology standpoint, people who buy such districts are wannabes, 'atas' who want to think and feel like they are the rich, but they aren't. They can't afford silversea or amber so they go for telok Kurau. There are so many boutique developments there that will pull the price down as fast as a whore will pull the pants off a guy during the downturn. Why? Such developments are only riding on the success of worthy neighbourig district projects.
From a supply demand perspective, there are way too many developments without a mass market population in certain districts to support the supply especially during downturn. In OCR, where people value ties, will buy to live near parents and especially so if price has dropped slightly.
Just look at wannabe 'atas' behaviour, cannot afford then sell and rent lor. Continue to live the pretentious lifestyle. They form a growing but still small part of the population and congregate at such districts. I'm not saying there aren't good people living in such area, but in their midst are those wannabe who do not have holding power and will force sell during such downturn. If the whole of East district tanks? Which developments will you buy first? The best ones along the coast obviously. Telok Kurau is far from it. The same goes for Balestier which is the poorest cousin among orchard, newton, novena.
Why didn't I mention toa Payoh? Because it will be supported by the masses, I.e HDB upgraders.
I really like to see the wannabes die! Ah boys included. I dare you to buy TK now and compare the results in 24 mths should a downturn happen. I'm vested in North and you should too before you start passing remarks about other districts.
JB still long way to go , my landed double storey at JB just rent RM850/= since last 5 year, the rental less one HDB bedroom in singapore. Unless you invest shop house. I prefer Kl and Penang, better return. In Spore Yishun is good place to stay, condo price still reasonable, not far from city, very attractive, Psf not that high based on my psf data base if compred with other part of Spore. I not eligible for EC, otherwise EC good to invest for own stay.
Agree on this, JB improves and it is more worthwhile to rest and relax there, property investment there is really a long term view. Penang is a much safer place and I really hope JB will improve further on security, which seems to be happening as ties strengthen.
devilplate
21-11-11, 00:14
Simply because someareass do not deserve the value.
From a social and psychology standpoint, people who buy such districts are wannabes, 'atas' who want to think and feel like they are the rich, but they aren't. They can't afford silversea or amber so they go for telok Kurau. There are so many boutique developments there that will pull the price down as fast as a whore will pull the pants off a guy during the downturn. Why? Such developments are only riding on the success of worthy neighbourig district projects.
From a supply demand perspective, there are way too many developments without a mass market population in certain districts to support the supply especially during downturn. In OCR, where people value ties, will buy to live near parents and especially so if price has dropped slightly.
Just look at wannabe 'atas' behaviour, cannot afford then sell and rent lor. Continue to live the pretentious lifestyle. They form a growing but still small part of the population and congregate at such districts. I'm not saying there aren't good people living in such area, but in their midst are those wannabe who do not have holding power and will force sell during such downturn. If the whole of East district tanks? Which developments will you buy first? The best ones along the coast obviously. Telok Kurau is far from it. The same goes for Balestier which is the poorest cousin among orchard, newton, novena.
Why didn't I mention toa Payoh? Because it will be supported by the masses, I.e HDB upgraders.
I really like to see the wannabes die! Ah boys included. I dare you to buy TK now and compare the results in 24 mths should a downturn happen. I'm vested in North and you should too before you start passing remarks about other districts.
seriously hor, if TK px really drop alot more den others ....i will consider.....i place entry px above location;)
Agree on this, JB improves and it is more worthwhile to rest and relax there, property investment there is really a long term view. Penang is a much safer place and I really hope JB will improve further on security, which seems to be happening as ties strengthen.
Just had a chat with my colleague from JB. He seemed to be against buying properties there, citing safety concerns. He said that he had been robbed a few times near the UTM a few years ago. He would rather buy a HDB here :scared-5:
Just had a chat with my colleague from JB. He seemed to be against buying properties there, citing safety concerns. He said that he had been robbed a few times near the UTM a few years ago. He would rather buy a HDB here :scared-5:
3 rm HDB expenssive then double storey Semi D @ JB. Low rent is one issue, Collect rental also another issue, some tenant never pay rental 3 month then run away. all knd problem can happen whh is never happen b4 in Spore.
3 rm HDB expenssive then double storey Semi D @ JB. Low rent is one issue, Collect rental also another issue, some tenant never pay rental 3 month then run away. all knd problem can happen whh is never happen b4 in Spore.
JB is only for very long term view (till 2030 and beyond) and only for capital appreciation within the IDR established developers.
Anything else is crap.
Whatever improves there in JB means it's more worthwhile to venture north for R&R. (I didn't mean ppty investment in short term.)
Today saw some reworks done on the existing 8cy showrm. Is it use for ec opp?
JB is only for very long term view (till 2030 and beyond) and only for capital appreciation within the IDR established developers.
Anything else is crap.
Whatever improves there in JB means it's more worthwhile to venture north for R&R. (I didn't mean ppty investment in short term.)
Malaysia property only good for a holiday or "summer" home from some loose change :D
8cy doing well..... :D Told you guys to buy north coz rest of SG will tank. Only upside is in north.
8cy doing well..... :D Told you guys to buy north coz rest of SG will tank. Only upside is in north.
but north mrt line keeps breaking down leh...i sianz also :(
Akira Fudou
17-12-11, 10:32
I have been staying in yishun/sembawang areas since birth, i love the place because i grew up here. To be frank, it is only a place for staying, there is basically nothing here that will attract pple from elsewhere to visit. The private here will only attract upgrader from neighbouring HDB or younglings staying near their parents. Thats the market i can see. I cant see pple from east. west, central areas coming here to stay because of the lower price factor.
I have been staying in yishun/sembawang areas since birth, i love the place because i grew up here. To be frank, it is only a place for staying, there is basically nothing here that will attract pple from elsewhere to visit. The private here will only attract upgrader from neighbouring HDB or younglings staying near their parents. Thats the market i can see. I cant see pple from east. west, central areas coming here to stay because of the lower price factor.
unless the north gets some major attractions like a new shopping belt, universities or theme park :)
but north mrt line keeps breaking down leh...i sianz also :(
SMRT CEO deserve it, collect so much salary for public service and now under threat to resign. Way too many mistakes.
i would have forgiven her if she build Simpang MRT,NS12.
Did you guys see her hair in the news? MESSY.
Haa haa...bad hair day and bad hair week. :p
i'm sure she is very eager to step down after earning so much. they better don't give her anymore bonus and use the money to build barriers at the platforms instead:simmering:
unless the north gets some major attractions like a new shopping belt, universities or theme park :)
The business buildings will come first opp. Sapphire, before any malls.
Btw, Causeway point quite nice to shop now.
unless the north gets some major attractions like a new shopping belt, universities or theme park :)
Another mall is coming next to nrthpt.
An oversea university will be built opposite Yishun 10.
As for theme park, i will talk to KBW. Maybe Angry Bird with downtown north. :D
SMRT CEO deserve it, collect so much salary for public service and now under threat to resign. Way too many mistakes.
i would have forgiven her if she build Simpang MRT,NS12.
Did you guys see her hair in the news? MESSY.
If she goes, use some of the $$ to build NS12.
Should build before the next GE.
With voices from YE, YS, 8cy & EC, maybe....
Solsys, i suppose you stay @ YS ? With greenery opposite. Why Foresque command such a high price ???
SMRT CEO deserve it, collect so much salary for public service and now under threat to resign. Way too many mistakes.
i would have forgiven her if she build Simpang MRT,NS12.
Did you guys see her hair in the news? MESSY.
her face also very oily...
is this part of PR to make it seem like she's stressed?
Else hard to imagine CEO earning more than 1M a year cannot afford decent make-up
devilplate
17-12-11, 22:02
her face also very oily...
is this part of PR to make it seem like she's stressed?
Else hard to imagine CEO earning more than 1M a year cannot afford decent make-up
I heard she earn 4mil a yr! Zzzzzz
If she goes, use some of the $$ to build NS12.
Should build before the next GE.
With voices from YE, YS, 8cy & EC, maybe....
Solsys, i suppose you stay @ YS ? With greenery opposite. Why Foresque command such a high price ???
i live at northoaks now. Pro888, where are u residing now? Foresque is due to bukit timah effect i guess, can never comprehend why people always want to live like an elite even if its just an adjacent address.
I heard she earn 4mil a yr! Zzzzzz
maybe they trying to use the opp to educate public to take more circle line...... By making north south line fail!
:scared-3:
i live at northoaks now. Pro888, where are u residing now? Foresque is due to bukit timah effect i guess, can never comprehend why people always want to live like an elite even if its just an adjacent address.
Oic. Me RCR - Meraprime. Bought in 2005. :D Only 600+ psf.
Now bought 2. CR & 8CY.
I see great potential here. It is not easy for someone stayin near city to really invest "real north". As you & me always mentioned on the future developments. With Govt spending Bil in TSL & NSE, SAP etc etc. The downside risk is not as much as CCR & RCR. This was what i thought since 2010.
Oic. Me RCR - Meraprime. Bought in 2005. :D Only 600+ psf.
Now bought 2. CR & 8CY.
I see great potential here. It is not easy for someone stayin near city to really invest "real north". As you & me always mentioned on the future developments. With Govt spending Bil in TSL & NSE, SAP etc etc. The downside risk is not as much as CCR & RCR. This was what i thought since 2010.
i started out late. Bought my current place in 2010 then 8cy in 2011.
I didn't think much abt north until i did homework and realise it will be the safest bet with all the plans.
You sure got alot of bullets. :)
Oic. Me RCR - Meraprime. Bought in 2005. :D Only 600+ psf.
Now bought 2. CR & 8CY.
I see great potential here. It is not easy for someone stayin near city to really invest "real north". As you & me always mentioned on the future developments. With Govt spending Bil in TSL & NSE, SAP etc etc. The downside risk is not as much as CCR & RCR. This was what i thought since 2010.
You are buying 99LH, and the plans for the North will take quite some time to develop. Currently South and West have higher priority as plans are already announced.
The government is going through a big mess now and 2016 election is a challenge. My projection is more resources will go towards vote buying in the next 5 years via upgrading of existing infrastructures rather than opening up of new developments in the north.
devilplate
18-12-11, 08:29
8cy 750psf shd be quite safe but aso comes wif limited upside leh.....
rental may be a challenge too......north rental always depressed.....check out the nearby hdb rental....very low.....ard 1.3-1.5k the most for 3rm flat
My horizon is 2018 and beyond. Don't mislead the readers leh, Yishun Pond ready, Yishun park facing seletar reservior ready,
Seletar Hub, Yishun Hub, NSE, TSL, all are announced projects that will be completed by 2018.
Speculative MRT should annouce with biz district as well.
South and West already overshot and smacked with CM5.
NORTH smart maintain quiet steady profile.
You are buying 99LH, and the plans for the North will take quite some time to develop. Currently South and West have higher priority as plans are already announced.
The government is going through a big mess now and 2016 election is a challenge. My projection is more resources will go towards vote buying in the next 5 years via upgrading of existing infrastructures rather than opening up of new developments in the north.
South - Extremely high risk. I am staying there seeing my unit price rise beyond my imagination (in terms of quantum). The drop can also be equally hard.
West - Agreed like JLD.
North - SAP will be fully operational in 2014. New mall etc (in progress) will mitigate any price drop when negative news flow in.
With NSE & TSL, govt will develop something along the line. Can wait. No worries.:D
8cy 750psf shd be quite safe but aso comes wif limited upside leh.....
rental may be a challenge too......north rental always depressed.....check out the nearby hdb rental....very low.....ard 1.3-1.5k the most for 3rm flat
First bought do not intend to rent out. :D For own stay. Rent out my RCR.
My horizon is 2018 and beyond. Don't mislead the readers leh, Yishun Pond ready, Yishun park facing seletar reservior ready,
Seletar Hub, Yishun Hub, NSE, TSL, all are announced projects that will be completed by 2018.
Speculative MRT should annouce with biz district as well.
South and West already overshot and smacked with CM5.
NORTH smart maintain quiet steady profile.
We have the same expectations. Great. Always buy the laggard with potential.
In the past, IMO, Hillview was pretty far, undevelop & "dirty" with many long malaysian trucks that polute the environment.
Pasir Ris - Wow "you stay sooo far" i told my fren. :D
Too inconvenient to move my family to new TOP units each time. Rent out immediately upon TOP. Always stay in my base home as it is convenient to anywhere for my family and I.
First bought do not intend to rent out. :D For own stay. Rent out my RCR.
South - Extremely high risk. I am staying there seeing my unit price rise beyond my imagination (in terms of quantum). The drop can also be equally hard.
West - Agreed like JLD.
North - SAP will be fully operational in 2014. New mall etc (in progress) will mitigate any price drop when negative news flow in.
With NSE & TSL, govt will develop something along the line. Can wait. No worries.:D
For south, specifically v south.
For south, specifically v south.
Very very south like cove no issue, money not an issue.
Very south, lagi bigger issue than south.
8cy 750psf shd be quite safe but aso comes wif limited upside leh.....
rental may be a challenge too......north rental always depressed.....check out the nearby hdb rental....very low.....ard 1.3-1.5k the most for 3rm flat
supply demand....
what does north have? Tonnes of hdb, lack of condo.
This explains why Rental yield is solid with northoaks, woodsvale and appreciation still happening.
MASSIVE HDB Upgrader potential which CCR, RCR lack.
Government just slapped foreigners, why invest in areas which foreigners like?
The government is gg to focus in heartlands and the plan is on for eventual northern coast mrt line,2025.
supply demand....
what does north have? Tonnes of hdb, lack of condo.
This explains why Rental yield is solid with northoaks, woodsvale and appreciation still happening.
MASSIVE HDB Upgrader potential which CCR, RCR lack.
Government just slapped foreigners, why invest in areas which foreigners like?
The government is gg to focus in heartlands and the plan is on for eventual northern coast mrt line,2025.
I believe with more HDB and condos TOP at other areas, north will suffer more, unless they are right next to the MRT station (and with a more capable SMRT management team). The potential of the north is indeed there, but my time on Earth is limited, so I would rather go with potential areas with 5-10 years time development frame from now.
I believe with more HDB and condos TOP at other areas, north will suffer more, unless they are right next to the MRT station (and with a more capable SMRT management team). The potential of the north is indeed there, but my time on Earth is limited, so I would rather go with potential areas with 5-10 years time development frame from now.
Again, i will reiterate for readers incase they are misled, there are significant developments in the north from now till 5-10 yrs as mentioned in the earlier posts. I merely highlighted the eventual objective 2025 that will be achieved once these developments are done. Tell me what lies ahead of the other districts beyond, 2015 when mrts are ready?
Prices already ran ahead for these areas with mrt completion in year 2015, which is why CM5 is specifically introduced to knock them back to more reasonable levels.
for one thing prices in the north may be more resilient in the current unstable climate, given the lack of supplies and many upcoming major developments.:)
for one thing prices in the north may be more resilient in the current unstable climate, given the lack of supplies and many upcoming major developments.:)
Anyone know the progress? I thought the piling n foundation work
Should complete end of this month?
I think the project supposed to start end of this year. Shall take one year to complete so likely nex year before piling n foundation done
Normally foundation will take roughly 4-5months. Started in Aug (est). Shld be another month the most.
Avg price has been creepin up.
Sep - $806psf
Oct - $818psf
Nov - $838psf
rattydrama
28-12-11, 11:04
Oic. Me RCR - Meraprime. Bought in 2005. :D Only 600+ psf.
Now bought 2. CR & 8CY.
I see great potential here. It is not easy for someone stayin near city to really invest "real north". As you & me always mentioned on the future developments. With Govt spending Bil in TSL & NSE, SAP etc etc. The downside risk is not as much as CCR & RCR. This was what i thought since 2010.
North is good for own stay and is my fav place but I nvr put all bullets in one district.
I will move back to North in 3-4 yrs certaintly :-) and wait for my unit to grow in price along with gov plans.
rattydrama
28-12-11, 11:09
I heard she earn 4mil a yr! Zzzzzz
1.8m base salary and the rest bonus???wow wow!!!
1 yr 2 apartments x 10 years, she got 20 apartments to collect rent on a guestimate.......
Normally foundation will take roughly 4-5months. Started in Aug (est). Shld be another month the most.
Avg price has been creepin up.
Sep - $806psf
Oct - $818psf
Nov - $838psf
according to the ksh press release. august they started building their construction office. they just started the actual development construction in dec, i guess thats refering to the foundation work. so maybe in jun then it will be completed?
New EC beside 8 couryards launching soon , dun know whether it can affect the near by condo price? any one know when the new EC launch?
New EC beside 8 couryards launching soon , dun know whether it can affect the near by condo price? any one know when the new EC launch?
April with 665 units. Indicative price between $680 to $700psf.
April with 665 units. Indicative price between $680 to $700psf.
Hi pro888 thank you for your information. hope it can attract many people and bring up the serrounding condo price. tq
that parcel of land for EC is in odd shape.. dono how the architect team can design those units to maximize the plot haha..
Hi pro888 thank you for your information. hope it can attract many people and bring up the serrounding condo price. tq
Sell out project after Estuary. The large pool of upgraders from Yishun, Sembawang & Woodlands. I see the price is around $720 - $750 psf avg. Further the govt has estimated 725units, but the developer only build 665 units. Not more but less. So you wldn't be expecting a small swimming pool like Trilliant in Tampines.
that parcel of land for EC is in odd shape.. dono how the architect team can design those units to maximize the plot haha..
Club hse or swimming pool at the weird corner. My guess to be a inverted C shape block. :D
Sell out project after Estuary. The large pool of upgraders from Yishun, Sembawang & Woodlands. I see the price is around $720 - $750 psf avg. Further the govt has estimated 725units, but the developer only build 665 units. Not more but less. So you wldn't be expecting a small swimming pool like Trilliant in Tampines.
again thank for yr info, Last week i drive my brother to trilliant, not so many people. Look like selling not good. 8cy how many % sold? show room stil available? TQ
again thank for yr info, Last week i drive my brother to trilliant, not so many people. Look like selling not good. 8cy how many % sold? show room stil available? TQ
according to the URA January 2012 data:
535/620 launched = 86.29%
535/654 total units = 81.8%
not bad ha :cool:
yes the showroom is still available and open daily
Sell out project after Estuary. The large pool of upgraders from Yishun, Sembawang & Woodlands. I see the price is around $720 - $750 psf avg. Further the govt has estimated 725units, but the developer only build 665 units. Not more but less. So you wldn't be expecting a small swimming pool like Trilliant in Tampines.
that's good, nowadays too many units crammed into too little land....hard to find decent condos with breathable space
even ECs are following the trend, smaller sizes (900 sq ft for 3BR) and more units per unit land
again thank for yr info, Last week i drive my brother to trilliant, not so many people. Look like selling not good. 8cy how many % sold? show room stil available? TQ.
For Trilliant IMO, the layout was totally a turn off. Price is on the high side. Overcrowding. Plenty of land nearer to the malls to name a few.
that's good, nowadays too many units crammed into too little land....hard to find decent condos with breathable space
even ECs are following the trend, smaller sizes (900 sq ft for 3BR) and more units per unit land
Indeed this surprised me. Nowadays, developers will build abt 10 - 20% more units than govt estimates. This EC is about 10% less units. Expect bigger size, bigger swimming pool etc. Will be launching in 2 months time. :D
Hope with more development near by, LTA can consider to buid NS12 MRT station asap and the opposite industrial este develop into business park , like JE. hope my dream can come true.
Hope with more development near by, LTA can consider to buid NS12 MRT station asap and the opposite industrial este develop into business park , like JE. hope my dream can come true.
hmmm... will need at lesat 5-10 years.. i think the 2rubies + 8cy + nautical + CR + landed + yishun EC all hope for that to happen in 5 years time.. that's only if the GLS in that area are more... then can consider... :beats-me-man:
Hope with more development near by, LTA can consider to buid NS12 MRT station asap and the opposite industrial este develop into business park , like JE. hope my dream can come true.
Just to share
Another future station will be at Sungei Kadut. One new road is currently under construction and directly opposite, a factory space has been acquired & demolished along the line. Now only with grass field.
I speculate again that both stations will be tender out together to one successful bidder. :D
Better to have a highway than a mrt to sungei kadut.
Better to have a highway than a mrt to sungei kadut.
No residences along Sungei Kadut...the other lines are too nearby anyways (for Bukit Panjang and Choa Chu Kang)
Just to share
Another future station will be at Sungei Kadut. One new road is currently under construction and directly opposite, a factory space has been acquired & demolished along the line. Now only with grass field.
I speculate again that both stations will be tender out together to one successful bidder. :D
Nice to hear from you, The peoples along Ave 7, HDB Chang Phang Rise, YS ,YE and industrial waiting for MRT station very long already. I think coming soon, but dont knw the exact yr. Hope LTA can pay more attention to that area. make it convinience to every one.
Nice to hear from you, The peoples along Ave 7, HDB Chang Phang Rise, YS ,YE and industrial waiting for MRT station very long already. I think coming soon, but dont knw the exact yr. Hope LTA can pay more attention to that area. make it convinience to every one.
jz jogging there this early morning.. if the canberra/simpang MRT station is to be built, the platform will be on outer side of tracks, rather than the platform in the between tracks. This is due to the tracks stretched from Yishun to Sembawang are built side by side rather than a gap in between for future platfrom :)
but sadly those areas are still covered by forest mostly.. as said earlier.. will not realize in 5 years time... :banghead:
jz jogging there this early morning.. if the canberra/simpang MRT station is to be built, the platform will be on outer side of tracks, rather than the platform in the between tracks. This is due to the tracks stretched from Yishun to Sembawang are built side by side rather than a gap in between for future platfrom :)
but sadly those areas are still covered by forest mostly.. as said earlier.. will not realize in 5 years time... :banghead:
Just like Dover stn.
As you said, currently clearing of forest is progress. :D
jz jogging there this early morning.. if the canberra/simpang MRT station is to be built, the platform will be on outer side of tracks, rather than the platform in the between tracks. This is due to the tracks stretched from Yishun to Sembawang are built side by side rather than a gap in between for future platfrom :)
but sadly those areas are still covered by forest mostly.. as said earlier.. will not realize in 5 years time... :banghead:
No matter how difficult, when the population there increase, LTA have to think a way to solve the problem, Sembawang and Yishun MRT now a day very pack during wk hour. I think future N12 can reduce the crowd at N11 and N13. hope it happen soon.
I think the MRT will be announced just before the next GE, to solidify KBW's position in Nee Soon GRC.
I think the MRT will be announced just before the next GE, to solidify KBW's position in Nee Soon GRC.
Hope so, which mean move in 2 year later MRT ready for resdnt.
I think the MRT will be announced just before the next GE, to solidify KBW's position in Nee Soon GRC.
since when KBW is in nee soon GRC?? he is in SBW GRC leh... :confused:
but the speculated new MRT is under his ward lah :p
Just like Dover stn.
As you said, currently clearing of forest is progress. :D
clear liao forest also can be loooooong time to announce the development.. i think gov really wana spend $$$$ in pg and sk first until it's successful..
I think the MRT will be announced just before the next GE, to solidify KBW's position in Nee Soon GRC.
If talking abt GE, it will be better to have something in Sembawang Ctrl instead. Can win more votes since Sun Plaza is :doh:
clear liao forest also can be loooooong time to announce the development.. i think gov really wana spend $$$$ in pg and sk first until it's successful..
LTA wldn't build road and then leave it there w/o any development for long, to ease traffic?? No no.
It is not in the high gear like building BTO flats. Clearing of anything takes only few months.
LTA wldn't build road and then leave it there w/o any development for long, to ease traffic?? No no.
It is not in the high gear like building BTO flats. Clearing of anything takes only few months.
clearing because they would like to prepare the GLS.. hmm.. let's say they are able to clear the lands by end of 2012.. GLS by 2013 for all the remaining parcels.. all bidders launch project in 2014.. TOP by 2016/7.. so at least another 5 years to see the changes for the canberra area..
unless the future canberra/simpang MRT is announced in 2014.. else.. expect at least 2020 ba .. :beats-me-man: also need some BTO to be announced at the residential area + business plot on the other side.. else LTA will say it has not reached enough critical mass to have one MRT station there
clearing because they would like to prepare the GLS.. hmm.. let's say they are able to clear the lands by end of 2012.. GLS by 2013 for all the remaining parcels.. all bidders launch project in 2014.. TOP by 2016/7.. so at least another 5 years to see the changes for the canberra area..
unless the future canberra/simpang MRT is announced in 2014.. else.. expect at least 2020 ba .. :beats-me-man: also need some BTO to be announced at the residential area + business plot on the other side.. else LTA will say it has not reached enough critical mass to have one MRT station there
Infact Govt should get ready NS12 MRT before many of the residential side TOp coming 2014/2015. I notice that some of the circle line MRT Station not many passenger , but they still build the station there. NS 12 near by have many housing already, It on hold 10yr++ since NS line operated, Look like no body care, Complaint to MP, etc. So that it may hold for anothe 10yr. i think must alert authotities, otherwise no action taken. wait and wait again , with MRT Station there those who stay near the Ave 7 HDB/ landed house/ PC(YS and YE) / industrial employee / can use the facility by walking distance rather then all squee at Yishun MRT station. To LTA , if they want to build MRT station like Dover not difficult, I think less then a year, Operating cost to gov or big organisation small matter lah. Depend on they want / dun want. Just remeber as a service and convinience to resident nearby.
Now already so crowded, esp. when it rains. Can't imagine when the BTO flats, EC & PC are ready in few years time. :scared-3:
Do not wish to see another Tampines :tsk-tsk:
Infact Govt should get ready NS12 MRT before many of the residential side TOp coming 2014/2015. I notice that some of the circle line MRT Station not many passenger , but they still build the station there. NS 12 near by have many housing already, It on hold 10yr++ since NS line operated, Look like no body care, Complaint to MP, etc. So that it may hold for anothe 10yr. i think must alert authotities, otherwise no action taken. wait and wait again , with MRT Station there those who stay near the Ave 7 HDB/ landed house/ PC(YS and YE) / industrial employee / can use the facility by walking distance rather then all squee at Yishun MRT station. To LTA , if they want to build MRT station like Dover not difficult, I think less then a year, Operating cost to gov or big organisation small matter lah. Depend on they want / dun want. Just remeber as a service and convinience to resident nearby.
agreed.. i don't believe the circle line stations have the critical mass to justify.. many stations on this line also open to nobody's land.. the only reason i can think of is because this circle line is in CCR.. every big investment is put into the CCR to make it nicer .. forget about the basic rules of providing convenience to residence nearby..
I do wish like all others who live nearby, that the new NS12 should have a concrete plan/date to build.. but from the current condition nearby.. it's still a NO-NO from LTA.. :tsk-tsk:
Now already so crowded, esp. when it rains. Can't imagine when the BTO flats, EC & PC are ready in few years time. :scared-3:
Do not wish to see another Tampines :tsk-tsk:
i think LTA will build the NS12 if the yishun/sembawang is like Jurong East station.. pack like sardine every morning and evening haha! :scared-2:
agreed.. i don't believe the circle line stations have the critical mass to justify.. many stations on this line also open to nobody's land.. the only reason i can think of is because this circle line is in CCR.. every big investment is put into the CCR to make it nicer .. forget about the basic rules of providing convenience to residence nearby..
I do wish like all others who live nearby, that the new NS12 should have a concrete plan/date to build.. but from the current condition nearby.. it's still a NO-NO from LTA.. :tsk-tsk:
Fully agreed with you, simple station pending for so long, unless that place totally no body stay... Dun know what their future plan.. :doh:
i think LTA will build the NS12 if the yishun/sembawang is like Jurong East station.. pack like sardine every morning and evening haha! :scared-2:
Sad, by that time too late liao and no quality life, Hope they do something asap. i do believe PAP action very fast, but look like they fail in this area.. If still wait can wait for another 5 to 10yr..
agreed.. i don't believe the circle line stations have the critical mass to justify.. many stations on this line also open to nobody's land.. the only reason i can think of is because this circle line is in CCR.. every big investment is put into the CCR to make it nicer .. forget about the basic rules of providing convenience to residence nearby..
I do wish like all others who live nearby, that the new NS12 should have a concrete plan/date to build.. but from the current condition nearby.. it's still a NO-NO from LTA.. :tsk-tsk:
Just build simple / chaeper station for loading and unloading passengers will do. all the people stay near by very happy already:) , because I worried concrete plan take too long time:confused: .
Just build simple / chaeper station for loading and unloading passengers will do. all the people stay near by very happy already:) , because I worried concrete plan take too long time:confused: .
I think the residents of YS and YE have endured this pain for such a long time... they seem to be the first batch waiting for the NS12 to be realized.. I don't believe there are not :simmering: .....
now that canberra area have 3 PC and 1 EC concurrently.. the LTA should really give the residents there a little bit of hope.. instead of keeping quiet and waiting for that whole area to TOP then only announce the NS12 plan..
anyway i have "speculated" some info on the Nautical thread.. posted some photos there already .. check it out! :D
I think the residents of YS and YE have endured this pain for such a long time... they seem to be the first batch waiting for the NS12 to be realized.. I don't believe there are not :simmering: .....
now that canberra area have 3 PC and 1 EC concurrently.. the LTA should really give the residents there a little bit of hope.. instead of keeping quiet and waiting for that whole area to TOP then only announce the NS12 plan..
anyway i have "speculated" some info on the Nautical thread.. posted some photos there already .. check it out! :D
Yes I think so. they wait till:simmering: . my fren told me every of them wait and wait till now. got dream rather then nothing. hope the project very soon infront of our eye...
Yes I think so. they wait till:simmering: . my fren told me every of them wait and wait till now. got dream rather then nothing. hope the project very soon infront of our eye...
show this forum to the MP KBW ... haha!! see how many frustrated residents in canberra and tekan him do something...
show this forum to the MP KBW ... haha!! see how many frustrated residents in canberra and tekan him do something...
I think Lim WK is MP there, MP KBW is main incharge. not sure.
I think Lim WK is MP there, MP KBW is main incharge. not sure.
8cy, YS and YE and EC under Shanmugan's Chong Pang ward..
nautical and CR under KBW's SBW ward...
anyway the whole area also minister's wards :P
check @ http://www.snstc.org.sg/
Hehe. As mentioned in my earlier posts, property game is now political game.
Current MRT locations already overhyped
Now whether new locations can make it or not depends on the government.
:luke-and-darth:
Hehe. As mentioned in my earlier posts, property game is now political game.
Current MRT locations already overhyped
Now whether new locations can make it or not depends on the government.
:luke-and-darth:
see MP can help?
see MP can help?
Yishun MRT already quite packed.
20,000 of us write petition got good chance.
Next GE confirm dangle MRT as carrot.
Yishun MRT already quite packed.
20,000 of us write petition got good chance.
Next GE confirm dangle MRT as carrot.
“我等到花儿也谢了”，we can't wait for next 10 to 20 years to build the NS12 station! KBW did mention the Simpan HDB estate but he did not show any concept planning for this this area, plus due to immigration policy tightening and low birth rate, the government take one step backward and slowly develope the new town. IMO, the faster they can build perhaps just before 2016!:sleep: Hopefully they don't drag too long otherwise instead of building NS12, they will build more old folks homes!:doh: KBW MUST take care of northerners! We are the 60.1% voters!:D
“我等到花儿也谢了”，we can't wait for next 10 to 20 years to build the NS12 station! KBW did mention the Simpan HDB estate but he did not show any concept planning for this this area, plus due to immigration policy tightening and low birth rate, the government take one step backward and slowly develope the new town. IMO, the faster they can build perhaps just before 2016!:sleep: Hopefully they don't drag too long otherwise instead of building NS12, they will build more old folks homes!:doh: KBW MUST take care of northerners! We are the 60.1% voters!:D
those stay nearby 也等到花儿也谢了. Some dislike to discuss anymore.I think they Xian already. happen or not happen let it be. by right LTA shuold do something, simple MRT station will do. Wait till simpang development too late already. May be after 10year simpang develop, Upgrade the MRT station again with shopping concept, etc..
KBW Shanmugan, did you see what your supporters are writing? Wait until to Sian already.:doh:
Yes, we are PAP strong supporter and others of my family members too since born. We believed that only PAP can fulfill our simples requirement. NS line operating more then 10yrs, Look like not too much if we just request for common MRT sation at existing NS track for eveery one convinence.
Yes, we are PAP strong supporter and others of my family members too since born. We believed that only PAP can fulfill our simples requirement. NS line operating more then 10yrs, Look like not too much if we just request for common MRT sation at existing NS track for eveery one convinence.
print out the whole forum and bring it to meet ppl session with KBW and Shanmugan... at least they will know what forum ppl are discussing ;)
“我等到花儿也谢了”，we can't wait for next 10 to 20 years to build the NS12 station! KBW did mention the Simpan HDB estate but he did not show any concept planning for this this area, plus due to immigration policy tightening and low birth rate, the government take one step backward and slowly develope the new town. IMO, the faster they can build perhaps just before 2016!:sleep: Hopefully they don't drag too long otherwise instead of building NS12, they will build more old folks homes!:doh: KBW MUST take care of northerners! We are the 60.1% voters!:D
MBT already said there is plan for simpang but not near future. Read below:
Mar 06 2010
Two next possible townships (http://www.aboutsingaporeproperty.com/two-next-possible-townships/)
TENGAH and Simpang might be the next townships to be developed, Minister for National Development Mah Bow Tan said yesterday.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__D9wajg6hQM/S5Hg1ma6mjI/AAAAAAAABHI/hrgfkoG1Wgo/s320/ST+6+Mar+10+Town.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__D9wajg6hQM/S5Hg1ma6mjI/AAAAAAAABHI/hrgfkoG1Wgo/s1600-h/ST+6+Mar+10+Town.jpg)
‘Flat buyers need not fear that there are not enough flats,’ Mr Mah said. ‘When Punggol is fully built up, we will consider building in new areas such as Tengah and Simpang.’
The two areas – Simpang in the north-east, and Tengah in the west – were fielded as potential development sites as early as the 1990s.
Simpang town first made its appearance on the Urban Redevelopment Authority’s 1991 Concept Plan, where it was mentioned as one of the next possible housing estates in the same breath as Punggol, Sembawang, and Sengkang.
Simpang town is located on the coast, bounded by the Strait of Johor to the north, Sembawang town to the west, Yishun town to the south and the mouth of the former Sungei Seletar to the east.
In the URA’s Simpang development guide plan, the area was meant to be a waterfront town, featuring waterfront homes and sea sports facilities.
There were even plans for a light rail system through the area.
These grand plans were evidently shelved, however, as the area remains a mixture of forest and swamp. The Simpang training grounds were at one point in use by the Singapore Armed Forces artillery as a training ground.
There have been fewer designs on the area at Tengah – bounded by Brickland Road, the KJE, PIE and Bukit Batok Road.
Today, the forested piece of land remains an excellent source of wild durians.
However, a spokesman for the Ministry of National Development stressed that there are no concrete plans to develop the areas yet. He stressed that Mr Mah highlighted the two areas only to demonstrate the adequacy of housing space.
‘(The) towns will only be developed at the appropriate time when there is sufficient demand,’ said a spokesman for HDB. ‘There was no prior commitment to develop both towns.
Source: Straits Times, 6 Mar 2010
MBT already said there is plan for simpang but not near future. Read below:
Mar 06 2010
Two next possible townships (http://www.aboutsingaporeproperty.com/two-next-possible-townships/)
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Source: Straits Times, 6 Mar 2010
Thanks for your information. This is what we knew as of today, don't see any detail planning. There is even the rumour said that the giant SEMBAWANG SHIPYARD will move to elsewhere so as the government can develope the waterfront activities in this area. So together with NS12, sport hub, town centre (Supposed to have), LTR (Not sure),Simpan estate concrete planing... nothing heard from them! "花儿已凋谢了“
Thanks for your information. This is what we knew as of today, don't see any detail planning. There is even the rumour said that the giant SEMBAWANG SHIPYARD will move to elsewhere so as the government can develope the waterfront activities in this area. So together with NS12, sport hub, town centre (Supposed to have), LTR (Not sure),Simpan estate concrete planing... nothing heard from them! "花儿已凋谢了“
hope KBW will relook into this again. personally i like north area as it has the "quiteness" that no other area has. it is far from town but singapore being small, it take the most one hour to town if traffic really tat bad
hope KBW will relook into this again. personally i like north area as it has the "quiteness" that no other area has. it is far from town but singapore being small, it take the most one hour to town if traffic really tat bad
that's the problem.... every other region residents want the northern region to be "quiet".. that's why there's no development in northern.. all big projects are concentrated in central, southern, western and eastern... everyone wants their own region to be developed.. but please keep "quiet" the northlanders.. :tsk-tsk:
this is really unfair .. because northern region has so much lands and so much potentials.. so everywhere else can be branded as "city" but north must be "ulu" because that's the last piece of ulu place found on singapore map.. :beats-me-man: sigh....
once i talked to another friend who live in south.. he laughed at me why staying sembawang!!?? that's very ulu leh~~ got HDB and mall there meh....?? :banghead:
that's the problem.... every other region residents want the northern region to be "quiet".. that's why there's no development in northern.. all big projects are concentrated in central, southern, western and eastern... everyone wants their own region to be developed.. but please keep "quiet" the northlanders.. :tsk-tsk:
this is really unfair .. because northern region has so much lands and so much potentials.. so everywhere else can be branded as "city" but north must be "ulu" because that's the last piece of ulu place found on singapore map.. :beats-me-man: sigh....
if u look at how woodlands and nautical perform. north is no longer ulu anymore. in fact it has the most upside potential since other area are already at peak
if u look at how woodlands and nautical perform. north is no longer ulu anymore. in fact it has the most upside potential since other area are already at peak
to be fair .. northern region will see TSL and NSE in another 6-8 years.. i sincerely hope that the branding of "ulu" north can be taken away...
my friend even quote the "ulu sembawang" as the evidence that north is ULU!!! really wana whack him haha!! :luke-and-darth:
that's the problem.... every other region residents want the northern region to be "quiet".. that's why there's no development in northern.. all big projects are concentrated in central, southern, western and eastern... everyone wants their own region to be developed.. but please keep "quiet" the northlanders.. :tsk-tsk:
this is really unfair .. because northern region has so much lands and so much potentials.. so everywhere else can be branded as "city" but north must be "ulu" because that's the last piece of ulu place found on singapore map.. :beats-me-man: sigh....
once i talked to another friend who live in south.. he laughed at me why staying sembawang!!?? that's very ulu leh~~ got HDB and mall there meh....?? :banghead:
You are right
[quote=ay123]MBT already said there is plan for simpang but not near future. Read below:
Mar 06 2010
Two next possible townships (http://www.aboutsingaporeproperty.com/two-next-possible-townships/)
Yes, Plan and Action alway must come together, with plan without action no use. We are waiting for nothing.
[quote=ay123]MBT already said there is plan for simpang but not near future. Read below:
Mar 06 2010
Two next possible townships (http://www.aboutsingaporeproperty.com/two-next-possible-townships/)
Yes, Plan and Action alway must come together, with plan without action no use. We are waiting for nothing.
"However, a spokesman for the Ministry of National Development stressed that there are no concrete plans to develop the areas yet. He stressed that Mr Mah highlighted the two areas only to demonstrate the adequacy of housing space.
‘(The) towns will only be developed at the appropriate time when there is sufficient demand,’ said a spokesman for HDB. ‘There was no prior commitment to develop both towns."
haha.. this news was long time back then... and there was the clarification from the officer on MBT comments.. he said "tengah and simpang town are only for illustration that singapore has reserved lands, so don't worry folks! and definitely we wana fully develop pg, sk area first.. so stay tuned! we see you after xx years!" :sleep:
and where's MBT now...... :sleep:
Plans to ease traffic during NSE, Thomson Line works
The new road will link Yishun Avenue 1 and Avenue 7 through Avenue 6
http://cars.st701.com/resources/cars/index.php?c=article&aid=49182&title=Plans-to-ease-traffic-during-NSE,-Thomson-Line-works
[quote=Nman]
"However, a spokesman for the Ministry of National Development stressed that there are no concrete plans to develop the areas yet. He stressed that Mr Mah highlighted the two areas only to demonstrate the adequacy of housing space.
‘(The) towns will only be developed at the appropriate time when there is sufficient demand,’ said a spokesman for HDB. ‘There was no prior commitment to develop both towns."
haha.. this news was long time back then... and there was the clarification from the officer on MBT comments.. he said "tengah and simpang town are only for illustration that singapore has reserved lands, so don't worry folks! and definitely we wana fully develop pg, sk area first.. so stay tuned! we see you after xx years!" :sleep:
and where's MBT now...... :sleep:
Alamak for illustration only, sian liao:sleep: .
to be fair .. northern region will see TSL and NSE in another 6-8 years.. i sincerely hope that the branding of "ulu" north can be taken away...
my friend even quote the "ulu sembawang" as the evidence that north is ULU!!! really wana whack him haha!! :luke-and-darth:
I like your friend... To be frank, when my classmate bought Tampines in 1980, the whole town is like dead town. Nothing around. I was still asking my parents why would anyone buy there and move there. After 10 years it was the most sought after hdb town in far east part of Singapore...
I like your friend... To be frank, when my classmate bought Tampines in 1980, the whole town is like dead town. Nothing around. I was still asking my parents why would anyone buy there and move there. After 10 years it was the most sought after hdb town in far east part of Singapore...
haha.. your friend has MBT to help tampines... now the north has KBW to help on northlanders.. :cheers4:
we shall see whether KBW can show us the magic 10years with the replication of tampines!
I like your friend... To be frank, when my classmate bought Tampines in 1980, the whole town is like dead town. Nothing around. I was still asking my parents why would anyone buy there and move there. After 10 years it was the most sought after hdb town in far east part of Singapore...
Because MBT MPfor tampines. He take care there a lot. Now Hope Mr. Khaw can take care North part more..
Because MBT MPfor tampines. He take care there a lot. Now Hope Mr. Khaw can take care North part more..
hope he doesn't 'mislead' us like the workers party loh :D
but i still won't vote for him! :tongue3:
hope he doesn't 'mislead' us like the workers party loh :D
but i still won't vote for him! :tongue3:
haha disappointed of living without NS12 ah? :p
haha disappointed of living without NS12 ah? :p
doesn't affect me at all :D
just dun like the guy ;)
doesn't affect me at all :D
just dun like the guy ;)
haha.. if still don't have the NS12 before next GE.. i think............. :simmering:
development in the north till now is still dragging feet...think due to lack of coordinating effort ...disappointing:simmering:
development in the north till now is still dragging feet...think due to lack of coordinating effort ...disappointing:simmering:
That why I think Why pap choose North MP as National Development Minister, may need him to speed up the North Part Development :) especially NS 12 and Simpang bto....like MBT did fr east side, Tampnes and ponggol..
That why I think Why pap choose North MP as National Development Minister, may need him to speed up the North Part Development :) especially NS 12 and Simpang bto....like MBT did fr east side, Tampnes and ponggol..
+100psf here we come!:cheers1:
devilplate
25-02-12, 23:35
The boom of north will kick start upon nse completion just like punggol with their kpe
The boom of north will kick start upon nse completion just like punggol with their kpe
*clap clap* The low quantum game with highest gain possible and decent yield is in the north.
No horse :cutedoggy: :jump-for-joy: run.
Has any owners paid more than 20%?
My unit is at block 18 and after 10 months still no further payment yet.
Is this normal or slow?
Has any owners paid more than 20%?
My unit is at block 18 and after 10 months still no further payment yet.
Is this normal or slow?
that's normal bro.. the 8cy project is rather slow .. the foundation work is in progress now .. i won't be surprised if nautical is faster than 8cy because this MCC is really fast!
that's normal bro.. the 8cy project is rather slow .. the foundation work is in progress now .. i won't be surprised if nautical is faster than 8cy because this MCC is really fast!
Agreed. I heard Canberra Residences has already build 2nd storey already
Agreed. I heard Canberra Residences has already build 2nd storey already
nop.. CR already built up to 4th level d on one side... another side just started ground level :)
nop.. CR already built up to 4th level d on one side... another side just started ground level :)
dunno slow good? or faster good? , the best 8cy project and NS 12 complete at same timing............. :confused:
NorthernStar
27-02-12, 06:40
dunno slow good? or faster good? , the best 8cy project and NS 12 complete at same timing............. :confused:
as long as the quality don't compromised..:D
Anyway, foundation work need very long time.. CR's foundation took about 10-11 months for the first few stacks. Once foundation done, the building structures can raise very fast...
i remember waterview launched about 2 months before CR. Now some of their building already hit level 6.
Rosewood suites (5 storeys) took 2 years+ to TOP, Waterfront waves(about 15 storeys took around 3.5+ years to TOP. The fast one should be CDL projects (eg. NV and Treehouse) due to the pre-cast technique they used in their buildings. :2cents:
agreed.. foundation work should be done carefully and steadily. no point rushing to TOP and compromise the foundation work.
Has any owners paid more than 20%?
My unit is at block 18 and after 10 months still no further payment yet.
Is this normal or slow?
One more forum member who bought 8cy. :rocking-the-decks: :rocking-the-decks:
Pressure will mount in the next few years especially if nothing done to alleviate the congestion.:witches-brew: :nuked:
We can have a nice Yishun Hub but congested MRT. Hmmm... will our MND minister risk his term in the next elections 5-6 years from now? :samurai-killa:
NS12 will happen with the industrial buildings all coming up around Gambas and Yishun. :cheers2:
Likely an integrated development at NS12 to ease some traffic so that people won't all unload at Yishun MRT to shop at the hub. :expert:
When Yishun hub is up, Sembawang & some AMK residents will also shop here. This will make the situation worst if nothing is being done. Dun forget many thousands new residents coming in in few years time.
NPark can spend $77 mil on Bishan Park, why not LTA spend $10 $20 mil in NS12 to solve the problem we are facing apparently.
So NS12 is becoming likely with more developments on the empty plot even without the Business land plot opposite. :D
:47:
When Yishun hub is up, Sembawang & some AMK residents will also shop here. This will make the situation worst if nothing is being done. Dun forget many thousands new residents coming in in few years time.
NPark can spend $77 mil on Bishan Park, why not LTA spend $10 $20 mil in NS12 to solve the problem we are facing apparently.
So NS12 is becoming likely with more developments on the empty plot even without the Business land plot opposite. :D
:expert: I Fully support with your comment, But I think less than 10million, build some shop slot:eating-burger: :hungry: at NS12 / kopitiam:47: can collect rental back. Long term still can make money, 15 yr later when simpang open, waterway project start, upgrade the MRT station with lrt link interchange and shopping mall and industrial park change to biz park.
Pressure will mount in the next few years especially if nothing done to alleviate the congestion.:witches-brew: :nuked:
We can have a nice Yishun Hub but congested MRT. Hmmm... will our MND minister risk his term in the next elections 5-6 years from now? :samurai-killa:
NS12 will happen with the industrial buildings all coming up around Gambas and Yishun. :cheers2:
Likely an integrated development at NS12 to ease some traffic so that people won't all unload at Yishun MRT to shop at the hub. :expert:
Yah, you are right, 3 yr later when all prjct TOP like Adora, canopy, milonia, 8 courtyard,Ec, BTO those who stay near Yishun MRT sure "takbulleh tahan" so many new residens share the MRT station wth them.Noisy, earlier morning wake them up n cannot:sleep: .
When Yishun hub is up, Sembawang & some AMK residents will also shop here. This will make the situation worst if nothing is being done. Dun forget many thousands new residents coming in in few years time.
NPark can spend $77 mil on Bishan Park, why not LTA spend $10 $20 mil in NS12 to solve the problem we are facing apparently.
So NS12 is becoming likely with more developments on the empty plot even without the Business land plot opposite. :D
I like the optimism here, but from my sources it seems this much talked about NS12 will only be considered after observing effects of completed TSL and NSE...of course let's hope i'm wrong :jason::smiling-jap:
I like the optimism here, but from my sources it seems this much talked about NS12 will only be considered after observing effects of completed TSL and NSE...of course let's hope i'm wrong :jason::smiling-jap:
who are your sources... ? :D
who are your sources... ? :D
LTA... :D
better dun specify too much liao! :tsk-tsk:
Building TSL is to ease the load on NSL (ppl staying in Woodlands Marsiling and Malaysian going bk to JB). This line also serve to provide conveniences to ppl staying not near to NSL.
NSE & NS12 or any mrt line got link meh? Different mode of transport. Further NS12 is only for Canberra & Yishun residents. :D Different purpose leh.
LTA... :D
better dun specify too much liao! :tsk-tsk:
I think MND minister can carry enough weight to influence NS12 development otherwise please vote opposition party since there will be many unhappy Yishun residents.
MND, please show LTA who is the boss!
I think MND minister can carry enough weight to influence NS12 development otherwise please vote opposition party since there will be many unhappy Yishun residents.
MND, please show LTA who is the boss!
i think better prepare to vote opp liao lah...i doubt anything concrete on this in 4 years... :spliff:
i think better prepare to vote opp liao lah...i doubt anything concrete on this in 4 years... :spliff:
Will history repeat for Née Soon, Sembawang just like Aljunied GRC?
Will our beloved KBW be only a one term MND minister just because of NS12?
Just came back from showroom.
They have a new showroom for 1087sqft 3 bedroom facing Emerald.
Just came back from showroom.
They have a new showroom for 1087sqft 3 bedroom facing Emerald.
What is the latest sales fig & psf being offered to you?
What is the latest sales fig & psf being offered to you?
83%, 100 units more to go.
Discount is 12% with 1% furniture voucher upon TOP.
83%, 100 units more to go.
Discount is 12% with 1% furniture voucher upon TOP.
My last visit 1-2 mths ago, not mistaken was abt 80.x% sold and the discount was more than 15%. They have sold some and up the selling price.
Shld be able to sell some more units when the EC launch.
Today saw agents by the roadside selling EC already.
My last visit 1-2 mths ago, not mistaken was abt 80.x% sold and the discount was more than 15%. They have sold some and up the selling price.
More than 15%? Cannot be lah. That is even better than early bird.
More than 15%? Cannot be lah. That is even better than early bird.
Ground flr unit. I think they are trying to get rid of it.
Ground flr unit. I think they are trying to get rid of it.
The going psf now is early 800plus with 1% furniture voucher will make it attractive.
If this stack is facing emerald, it is north south facing.
Will history repeat for Née Soon, Sembawang just like Aljunied GRC?
Will our beloved KBW be only a one term MND minister just because of NS12?
i doubt so...i believe people of Sembawang not that affected by existence of NS12, perhaps only a small minority :D
still he should go cos he's not very smart ;)
Almost forgot, there is a unit unblock view facing east. 3 bedder compact available. Should be 969sqft. That one is worth while. 11th floor.
i doubt so...i believe people of Sembawang not that affected by existence of NS12, perhaps only a small minority :D
still he should go cos he's not very smart ;)
Yes, you're right that Sembawang Res. will not care the existence of NS12, but more of a concern to Yishun Res.
LTA is considering for more openings (exit) or removal of Kiosk & atms etc at Yishun mrt. but i generally feels that the holding area is very small and will not solve the problem.
They should also consider relocating NTUC supermarket to the other side (open field), enlarge the holding area 3 times, increase the size of existing underpass and building a overhead bridge link to future Yishun hub
NS12 for residents at YE, YS, 8CY, EC, Nautical, CR & landed.
2 bus services opposite NS12, one via Yishun ave 7, ave 6, st31, Ring Road and back to Yishun hub. The other via Yishun avy, av6 and head straight to SAP. :D
Yes, you're right that Sembawang Res. will not care the existence of NS12, but more of a concern to Yishun Res.
LTA is considering for more openings (exit) or removal of Kiosk & atms etc at Yishun mrt. but i generally feels that the holding area is very small and will not solve the problem.
They should also consider relocating NTUC supermarket to the other side (open field), enlarge the holding area 3 times, increase the size of existing underpass and building a overhead bridge link to future Yishun hub
NS12 for residents at YE, YS, 8CY, EC, Nautical, CR & landed.
2 bus services opposite NS12, one via Yishun ave 7, ave 6, st31, Ring Road and back to Yishun hub. The other via Yishun avy, av6 and head straight to SAP. :D
i will vote you for the next MP liao like that :D
Yes, you're right that Sembawang Res. will not care the existence of NS12, but more of a concern to Yishun Res.
LTA is considering for more openings (exit) or removal of Kiosk & atms etc at Yishun mrt. but i generally feels that the holding area is very small and will not solve the problem.
They should also consider relocating NTUC supermarket to the other side (open field), enlarge the holding area 3 times, increase the size of existing underpass and building a overhead bridge link to future Yishun hub
NS12 for residents at YE, YS, 8CY, EC, Nautical, CR & landed.
2 bus services opposite NS12, one via Yishun ave 7, ave 6, st31, Ring Road and back to Yishun hub. The other via Yishun avy, av6 and head straight to SAP. :D
impressive!! you know so much details in this area though you are southern dragon!! you have certainly done so much researches in the north haha!
Yes, you're right that Sembawang Res. will not care the existence of NS12, but more of a concern to Yishun Res.
LTA is considering for more openings (exit) or removal of Kiosk & atms etc at Yishun mrt. but i generally feels that the holding area is very small and will not solve the problem.
They should also consider relocating NTUC supermarket to the other side (open field), enlarge the holding area 3 times, increase the size of existing underpass and building a overhead bridge link to future Yishun hub
NS12 for residents at YE, YS, 8CY, EC, Nautical, CR & landed.
2 bus services opposite NS12, one via Yishun ave 7, ave 6, st31, Ring Road and back to Yishun hub. The other via Yishun avy, av6 and head straight to SAP. :D
Shiok to hear from you
Yes, you're right that Sembawang Res. will not care the existence of NS12, but more of a concern to Yishun Res.
LTA is considering for more openings (exit) or removal of Kiosk & atms etc at Yishun mrt. but i generally feels that the holding area is very small and will not solve the problem.
They should also consider relocating NTUC supermarket to the other side (open field), enlarge the holding area 3 times, increase the size of existing underpass and building a overhead bridge link to future Yishun hub
NS12 for residents at YE, YS, 8CY, EC, Nautical, CR & landed.
2 bus services opposite NS12, one via Yishun ave 7, ave 6, st31, Ring Road and back to Yishun hub. The other via Yishun avy, av6 and head straight to SAP. :D
Yo! Please write in to MP! :) They will forward to LTA, SMRT hopefully!
Great to have support from you guys of my ideas. :D
I will discuss with the MP then.
Great to have support from you guys of my ideas. :D
I will discuss with the MP then.
Yes, tell the MP or transport minister to wait for his friend during peak hour inside the Yishun train station. Too big a crowd trying to walk in all directions made worse with ATM queue blocking way with NTUC patrons squeezing through to board trains or walk underground to Northpoint.
Very good killing zone for terrorist an of course business as well if there are good expansion plans.
Yes, tell the MP or transport minister to wait for his friend during peak hour inside the Yishun train station. Too big a crowd trying to walk in all directions made worse with ATM queue blocking way with NTUC patrons squeezing through to board trains or walk underground to Northpoint.
Very good killing zone for terrorist an of course business as well if there are good expansion plans.
damn... this morning around 730 the Yishun MRT platform going towards city having crazy human traffic!! took more than 10mins and 4trains to passby before able to squeeze in!! NS12 PLEASE DO IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :simmering:
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