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mantrix
18-11-10, 19:39
There seems to be plenty of activity in the property segment recently, though mostly limited to the new launches.

What about resales in the north? Anyone knows of any increase in activity here? I was informed that many PRCs are coming to look and buy, and they are causing quite a bit of activity in some projects.

If you have any news where your condo has seen more activity lately due post here so perhaps we can have a glimpse as to what all these investors are looking for in ulu north :)

rattydrama
18-11-10, 22:19
your fav location:cheers6:

Peak Seah Street land cost 1000psf. LH expected to be sold at 2500psf
North condo 5 min MRT 5XX psf...LH (12 years)

PRs will sure come to this vicinity.

mantrix
18-11-10, 22:37
your fav location:cheers6:

Peak Seah Street land cost 1000psf. LH expected to be sold at 2500psf
North condo 5 min MRT 5XX psf...LH (12 years)

PRs will sure come to this vicinity.

LOL. They will be the same ones to buy 39K and 50K COEs too... :p

rattydrama
18-11-10, 22:59
LOL. They will be the same ones to buy 39K and 50K COEs too... :p

Far East coming... did you smell something?

mantrix
19-11-10, 00:04
Far East coming... did you smell something?

ho ho ho i smell 4 digit psf!!:scared-1:

richwang
01-12-10, 09:49
Anyone has a North Redevelopment master plan? If you travel by MRT from Yio Chio Kang to Khatib, it is a long 7 mins ride. So there should be another MRT station in between (somewhere around Bullion Park). Surronding Lower Seletar Reservior, there are enough land to build 20 projects. (Just look at Bedok Reservior). Near Sembawang area, there are enough land to build the 5th university.
This area is just 28 mins train ride to Orchard Road. Anyone wants to bet how this area will be in 20 years' time? - not very long for property investment.

Just my dreams!
Thanks,
Richard
PS. I stay at Khatib.

rattydrama
01-12-10, 11:15
Those along Thomson line probably will have more potential but right now we dont know where will be the stations, do we?


Anyone has a North Redevelopment master plan? If you travel by MRT from Yio Chio Kang to Khatib, it is a long 7 mins ride. So there should be another MRT station in between (somewhere around Bullion Park). Surronding Lower Seletar Reservior, there are enough land to build 20 projects. (Just look at Bedok Reservior). Near Sembawang area, there are enough land to build the 5th university.
This area is just 28 mins train ride to Orchard Road. Anyone wants to bet how this area will be in 20 years' time? - not very long for property investment.

Just my dreams!
Thanks,
Richard
PS. I stay at Khatib.

devilplate
01-12-10, 11:35
ho ho ho i smell 4 digit psf!!:scared-1:

greenwich oredi achieved 14xxpsf by FEO! CLAP CLAP!

another bishan 8 fate:scared-3:

devilplate
01-12-10, 11:36
Those along Thomson line probably will have more potential but right now we dont know where will be the stations, do we?

actually, i dun see much price appreciation along the newly announced DTL3

rattydrama
01-12-10, 12:04
they will depend if there is any kind of mixed development surrounding the MRT stations of DL3. But right now it is still too early to see any investment value in this area.

mantrix
02-12-10, 10:37
greenwich oredi achieved 14xxpsf by FEO! CLAP CLAP!

another bishan 8 fate:scared-3:

Yah but that's not exactly far north is it? Yio Chu Kang is more NE than north...still it has the potential to affect surrounding regions like Khatib / Sembawang / Yishun...

mantrix
02-12-10, 10:39
Anyone has a North Redevelopment master plan? If you travel by MRT from Yio Chio Kang to Khatib, it is a long 7 mins ride. So there should be another MRT station in between (somewhere around Bullion Park). Surronding Lower Seletar Reservior, there are enough land to build 20 projects. (Just look at Bedok Reservior). Near Sembawang area, there are enough land to build the 5th university.
This area is just 28 mins train ride to Orchard Road. Anyone wants to bet how this area will be in 20 years' time? - not very long for property investment.

Just my dreams!
Thanks,
Richard
PS. I stay at Khatib.

Richard, your dreams will come true but perhaps not in near future as you said...
There needs to be a critical mass to support the Bullion Park MRT (the condo residents are just not enough)

Perhaps with more developments maybe, but will be a long time coming :)

mantrix
15-02-11, 20:48
Just boliao checked some far north condos...

apparently Seletaris has a new high!

509 Sembawang Road #04-63
Freehold
$723 psf
1647
$1190k
14 Jan 11

so does Northoaks

20 Woodlands Crescent #13-43
99 Yrs From 16/12/1997
$681 psf
1055
$718k
26 Jan 11

even Sensoria...

1 Jalan Ulu Sembawang #01-05
Freehold
$766 psf
1184
$907k
21 Dec 10


I feel like Reporter already :tongue3:

But those were bought before or after NSE announcement? I forgot the day NSE was announced... :confused:

ecimbew
15-02-11, 20:58
3weeks ago

kingkong1984
15-02-11, 21:28
late now... but still in time. Hurry... north coming up.

kingkong1984
15-02-11, 21:30
Richard, your dreams will come true but perhaps not in near future as you said...
There needs to be a critical mass to support the Bullion Park MRT (the condo residents are just not enough)

Perhaps with more developments maybe, but will be a long time coming :)

Opposite land available.... so huge!

wind30
16-02-11, 07:37
Anyone has a North Redevelopment master plan? If you travel by MRT from Yio Chio Kang to Khatib, it is a long 7 mins ride. So there should be another MRT station in between (somewhere around Bullion Park). Surronding Lower Seletar Reservior, there are enough land to build 20 projects. (Just look at Bedok Reservior). Near Sembawang area, there are enough land to build the 5th university.
This area is just 28 mins train ride to Orchard Road. Anyone wants to bet how this area will be in 20 years' time? - not very long for property investment.

Just my dreams!
Thanks,
Richard
PS. I stay at Khatib.

I think those land are army land.

Our transport minister said they could not even get 1.5% of those land to build a ventilation building for the NSE, that is why it is semi tunnel along castle green and nuovo.

pupboy
16-02-11, 09:46
Instead of paying $850 p/f on new launch or 99 yrs one, what do you think of Seletaris which is freehold for around $690 p/f based on recent
cavat shown ? Pls adv ! thanks

ay123
16-02-11, 09:57
Instead of paying $850 p/f on new launch or 99 yrs one, what do you think of Seletaris which is freehold for around $690 p/f based on recent
cavat shown ? Pls adv ! thanks

part of seletaris is affected by the new expressway right? but that is a nice project. relax and resort style

mantrix
16-02-11, 11:13
part of seletaris is affected by the new expressway right? but that is a nice project. relax and resort style

Quite old too and you'll need to spend 30-40k on retrofitting, A&A
Northwood nearby in a better location is asking 800psf, while Seletaris next to NSE asking 700++psf - both are FH, your pick

KarenK
16-02-11, 12:48
Quite old too and you'll need to spend 30-40k on retrofitting, A&A
Northwood nearby in a better location is asking 800psf, while Seletaris next to NSE asking 700++psf - both are FH, your pick


Northwood is directly next door to the helicopter base, right?

mantrix
16-02-11, 13:12
Northwood is directly next door to the helicopter base, right?

I know the actual base is some distance off - but impt thing is it's not in the path of the helicoper's landing or taking off (which seletaris is)

pupboy
16-02-11, 13:13
Seletaris is nearer to Chong Pang city and Sembawang Shopping Centre and the new food centre currently under construction (opp SSC).

zzz1
16-02-11, 13:36
I know the actual base is some distance off - but impt thing is it's not in the path of the helicoper's landing or taking off (which seletaris is)

When Northwood TOPs, I almost commit a unit (4th qty 09), During that time was calling 650-690 psf…

Pro- FH,
New construction
Blocks are spaciously spread
Maintenance fee expected around $ 270. reasonable
Last heard of the rental is about 3 k and accordingly to agent, very easy to market out
Cons,
Coincidence was chit chat with agent at the pool, can hear chopter hovering, and was very very loud Plus vibration. Of course it is only once a while. (enough for me to pull out)
Unit facing camp will kana aft sun , directly.
Notice there no BBQ pit, (thu can be resolved by placing a portable wan)

Then a again, you have to weight your preference and trade off the pro and con.

kingkong1984
16-02-11, 13:42
Best in the north in my views. Better than facing expressway 24 hrs. Compare with fighter jets. Heli ok lah.

U know where to find jets right? Or avoid...

mantrix
16-02-11, 13:47
Seletaris is nearer to Chong Pang city and Sembawang Shopping Centre and the new food centre currently under construction (opp SSC).

I think they are same distance from chong pang though true seletaris is nearer to SSC - that said, it's still a long 10min walk unlike canberra residence or even sensoria

rattydrama
16-02-11, 19:41
I think they are same distance from chong pang though true seletaris is nearer to SSC - that said, it's still a long 10min walk unlike canberra residence or even sensoria


sensoria is actually facing the landed property and on high ground. I almost commit to it for about 820k 2 bed thereabout. The workmanship is not bad imo.

The only thing bad about it there are only few units and maintenance cost could be high and not many facilities.

mantrix
16-02-11, 20:33
sensoria is actually facing the landed property and on high ground. I almost commit to it for about 820k 2 bed thereabout. The workmanship is not bad imo.

The only thing bad about it there are only few units and maintenance cost could be high and not many facilities.

Indeed. They also had a heated jacuzzi that had me drooling.

Unfortunate thing was, as you said, high maintenance + one lane into carpark which could cause jams and conflicts. And it's too boutique (read: small) for me - apart from that it's quite charming. It's not a condo, it's apartment status actually so less space for facilities (which also means u get less recreational sq ft for your buck)

Walking to SSC is only 5 min

Between that and Seletaris if I really had to choose I would pick Sensoria. Else in that area Northwood would be the best value for money.

Komo
18-02-11, 06:10
I think cr best now. only cons is leasehold.

zzz1
18-02-11, 07:36
I think cr best now. only cons is leasehold.

the price a bit steep for a LH plus the location..

mantrix
18-02-11, 07:50
the price a bit steep for a LH plus the location..

well CR is top in terms of price, so maybe 'best' :D

Since it's the king, should call it Canberra Crown Residences then you can tell people you stay in CCR :D

zzz1
18-02-11, 10:14
well CR is top in terms of price, so maybe 'best' :D

Since it's the king, should call it Canberra Crown Residences then you can tell people you stay in CCR :D
Ha ha..that is a good wan …what a good abbreviation.

Btw word Crown, Carina, Corona, etc etc reminded me of the 80s era…

mantrix
18-02-11, 10:57
Ha ha..that is a good wan …what a good abbreviation.

Btw word Crown, Carina, Corona, etc etc reminded me of the 80s era…

Better than One Canberra Residences (OCR) or Royal Canberra Residences (RCR) :D

Yah, last time got Heights, got Gardens etc (i know you talking about toyoto though)

Then came 90's and got Regency, got Towers, View etc

then came the latest trend of Residences, Thes, Suites, Lofts, etc

rattydrama
19-02-11, 06:14
Ha ha..that is a good wan …what a good abbreviation.

Btw word Crown, Carina, Corona, etc etc reminded me of the 80s era…

or canberra clown residences.

U know MCC is a chinese developer.

rattydrama
19-02-11, 06:23
Indeed. They also had a heated jacuzzi that had me drooling.

Unfortunate thing was, as you said, high maintenance + one lane into carpark which could cause jams and conflicts. And it's too boutique (read: small) for me - apart from that it's quite charming. It's not a condo, it's apartment status actually so less space for facilities (which also means u get less recreational sq ft for your buck)

Walking to SSC is only 5 min

Between that and Seletaris if I really had to choose I would pick Sensoria. Else in that area Northwood would be the best value for money.

northwood tuck away from main road, is it really that good? I dont like the entrance, very narrow and crowded. I have yet to visit the project.

sensoria's air quality should be better as the surrounding is not cluttered - no shophouses around doing all kinds of businesses.

small projects and few facilities is fine for me cos more exclusive + less users. But the problem is the price upside is restricted and some owner tends to sell low if they are in any urgency to off load. so the price of small apartment is somehow below market value.

tats why u see that small project's psf price movement cannot move faster than those 200 to 300 units type of projects.

100 plus units projects also have this problem but not as bad so its a trade off between exclusivity and price rise.

zzz1
19-02-11, 21:51
or canberra clown residences.

U know MCC is a chinese developer.

yap yap...watch out of the quality...in general sense.

mantrix
19-02-11, 22:29
yap yap...watch out of the quality...in general sense.

Canberra China Residences also can :D

land118
19-02-11, 22:44
or canberra clown residences.

U know MCC is a chinese developer.
Tis will be a real test if Chinese developer can deliver good quality. :scared-3:

rattydrama
20-02-11, 07:10
Canberra China Residences also can :D
This may be better Canberra Christmas island residences. ;)

rattydrama
20-02-11, 10:17
these days most of the produce are from China but "made in china" as project name? It will sell better masking it.

zzz1
20-02-11, 16:59
Canberra China Residences also can :D

all the 'CC' abbervation such as CCTV, CE ..trade marks of China made...

at first conquer GL, now also want to conquer construction

mantrix
20-02-11, 18:18
Anyway back to topic :)

Interest seems up nowadays - many investors in the region looking (be them from China or otherwise)

I think we really have a lot of cash-rich people wanting to invest and Far North prices are the most attractive for them :D

hopeful
20-02-11, 19:32
Anyway back to topic :)

Interest seems up nowadays - many investors in the region looking (be them from China or otherwise)

I think we really have a lot of cash-rich people wanting to invest and Far North prices are the most attractive for them :D

as in cheapest? :D

zzz1
20-02-11, 20:01
as in cheapest? :D
creeping up

lifeline
20-02-11, 21:03
Saw A'Posh BizHub few days ago in Yishun. Commercial flatted space, 60years, low quantum with projected 6 to 6.5% rental yield, claims support Seletar Hub.

Anyone knows if all the recent measures apply to commercial space or not? What about hdb shopspace? Sorry for OT. Thanks.

zzz1
21-02-11, 08:40
Saw A'Posh BizHub few days ago in Yishun. Commercial flatted space, 60years, low quantum with projected 6 to 6.5% rental yield, claims support Seletar Hub.

Anyone knows if all the recent measures apply to commercial space or not? What about hdb shopspace? Sorry for OT. Thanks.

It applicable to residential priv pty

mantrix
21-02-11, 11:20
It applicable to residential priv pty

Better to buy Tagore - freehold with captial appreciation

KarenK
21-02-11, 12:57
Better to buy Tagore - freehold with captial appreciation

Tagore freehold too pricey for most pax lah.....prices at least $1m and above. I prefer Northlink even tho its abt 10 yrs old. more affordable lah :p the demand for the units there are still pretty hot with good rental yields. even on a Sun, business is still bustling there which is a good sign for the businesses there....

lifeline
21-02-11, 17:42
what do you think of A'Posh? quantum is < 0.5 mil. brandnew, very nice looking, top 2nd half next year.



Tagore freehold too pricey for most pax lah.....prices at least $1m and above. I prefer Northlink even tho its abt 10 yrs old. more affordable lah :p the demand for the units there are still pretty hot with good rental yields. even on a Sun, business is still bustling there which is a good sign for the businesses there....

KarenK
23-02-11, 10:56
what do you think of A'Posh? quantum is < 0.5 mil. brandnew, very nice looking, top 2nd half next year.

Hi there
didn't do research on A'Posh :D so I'm sorry I can't comment much on A'Posh although I heard quite a number of units sold.

I think it's 60-yr leasehold? as long as not 30-yr leasehold then not too bad lah. and I think they are developing that entire area with flatted factories like around it. the leases for the Kaki Bukit factories are running out in 1-2 years' time so the tenants may be looking towards Yishun for alternative venues. I kind of think they will prefer to remain in the same general vicinity if possible but nearer locations like Ubi are already quite old and the traffic there is terrible. downside is that with so many new factories in the area, competition for tenancy will be keen lah....

lifeline
23-02-11, 13:02
Thanks Karen. Not going in cos this is totally new for me.



Hi there
didn't do research on A'Posh :D so I'm sorry I can't comment much on A'Posh although I heard quite a number of units sold.

I think it's 60-yr leasehold? as long as not 30-yr leasehold then not too bad lah. and I think they are developing that entire area with flatted factories like around it. the leases for the Kaki Bukit factories are running out in 1-2 years' time so the tenants may be looking towards Yishun for alternative venues. I kind of think they will prefer to remain in the same general vicinity if possible but nearer locations like Ubi are already quite old and the traffic there is terrible. downside is that with so many new factories in the area, competition for tenancy will be keen lah....

mantrix
25-02-11, 10:32
All waiting for new Bishan condo to raise the bar.
If it's a sellout, then Centro will see good sales and rest will follow.

If sales as dismal as Centro, then prices will remain where they are...

KarenK
25-02-11, 20:08
Hi there
didn't do research on A'Posh :D so I'm sorry I can't comment much on A'Posh although I heard quite a number of units sold.

I think it's 60-yr leasehold? as long as not 30-yr leasehold then not too bad lah. and I think they are developing that entire area with flatted factories like around it. the leases for the Kaki Bukit factories are running out in 1-2 years' time so the tenants may be looking towards Yishun for alternative venues. I kind of think they will prefer to remain in the same general vicinity if possible but nearer locations like Ubi are already quite old and the traffic there is terrible. downside is that with so many new factories in the area, competition for tenancy will be keen lah....

sorry, my brain finally wake up a bit bit. I'm referring to Defu factories where the leases are running out, not Kaki Bukit :ashamed1:
.......Kaki Bukit is ok place but like Ubi, the traffic is terrible......

ay123
03-03-11, 16:03
KTM will be in operation in woodlands 1st Jul. dunno will it help to push north price?

mantrix
03-03-11, 16:48
KTM will be in operation in woodlands 1st Jul. dunno will it help to push north price?

All fingers crossed for first far north project to hit past 1K psf! :D

rattydrama
03-03-11, 19:49
All fingers crossed for first far north project to hit past 1K psf! :D
FEO's project?

mantrix
03-03-11, 21:54
FEO's project?

High chance if there are 1 bedders and MMs :D

rattydrama
03-03-11, 23:20
High chance if there are 1 bedders and MMs :D
erm. not been proven in OCR. Tatanic..you jump all jump and die together?

mantrix
04-03-11, 06:38
erm. not been proven in OCR. Tatanic..you jump all jump and die together?

Yes it has. Look at Tennery, Greenwich, etc
You mean Titanic?

If CR hit close to 900psf for 2 bedders good chance FEO may raise the bar. Let's see ;)